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Hey guys, been a while since Ive been on this forum Currently running an AMD Ryzen 3700X + Red Devil 5700-XT + 32GB RAM + ASUS B550-F Build. I am considering the possibility of upgrading to one of the new generation of CPUs, but man have there been issues from both AMD and Intel this year. Like probably most of you, I just got done watching the reviews of Intel's new 13th Gen CPUs from Linus, Jays2Cents, Hardware Unboxed, and Gamers Nexus, to get the pros and cons from multiple angles. While Intel may have just taken back the gaming crown, and at a lower price than comparable AMD chips, I realized something watching these videos and realized - maybe neither is the best option... You see there are issues with both the new AMD 7000 and Intel 13th Gen platforms, and they are not small issues but rather quite large ones that have me disappointed with both companies. When you dig deeper into the AMD Ryzen 7000 design, its clear that someone at AMD R&D wasn't thinking clearly. Im not sure if you guys of heard, but the reason Ryzen 7000 is compatible with Ryzen 5000 Cooling Solutions is simple - AMD employed a massive, super-thick IHS on the CPUs to give them the extra height needed to clear the new CPU retention mechanism and make contact with existing coolers. While this does work, the super-thick IHS traps heat insanely badly, and thats why everyone is constantly sitting at 95°C regardless of cooling solution. How dumb is that? Instead of just having cooling solution manufacturers sell us a new mounting bracket kit for Ryzen 7000, AMD decided that trapping the heat was a better option. This is easily the dumbest decision AMD has ever made in its CPU design, especially with power consumption and heat output soaring ever higher with recent generations. Jays2Cents and Der Bauer have already demonstrated that in order to get any sort of decent thermal performance out of Ryzen 7000, you are forced to void your warranty and do one of two things - LAP the CPU, removing about 1.0mm of IHS and then use a mounting bracket mod to make up for the lost space. Jay showed this rather successfully in a recent video on his channel and without even properly finishing the job was able to go from having the 7950X constantly pinned at 94-95C to more like 85-86C. He was even able to overclock it to 5.4GHz All-Core without hitting the 95C Limit. And remember, this is NOT removing the IHS. The IHS is still perfectly intact, its just been shaved down so its not so thick. The other option is delidding - far more risky and could cost you your CPU, but if done correctly using the soon-to-be available Der Bauer De-Lidding kit, you can achieve an almost unbelievable 20C drop in temps. Now some of you might say "well AMD designed the new Ryzen 7000 to run at 95C, its perfectly safe". That is true, they did. But its pretty obvious why they did it - to account for this idiotic IHS design- thats why. Plus like I said, Jay was able to achieve 5.4GHz All-Core OC without even properly finishing the job. This means that anyone who just buys a Ryzen 7000 chip and wants to just run it and keep the warranty - is just leaving performance on the table. There simply isn't any way to avoid the fact that to get the most out of Ryzen 7000, you HAVE to void the warranty. Its just so incredibly stupid. Now lets talk Intel. Sure, they took the gaming crown back today. Awesome, good for you Intel. But guess what, this absurd game of "chasing horsepower" and just not giving a crap about power draw has pushed the new i9-13900K to an absolutely stupid level. Hardware Unboxed reported that while the 7950X draws about 180W under full load, the 13900K now draws up to 330W!!! Are you joking??? Thats the kind of power HEDT ThreadRipper Chips consume, its absolutely bonkers. Of course this means rediculous temps for Intel as well. Hardware Unboxed reported Thermal Throttling in ALL FULL-LOAD TESTS!!! Literally all of them, even when he decided that fairness no longer matters and boosted the Intel system up to a 420mm AIO Liquid Cooler, it STILL thermal throttles at 100C in like 20 seconds LOL . What are these R&D people doing at these companies? This is complete insanity across the board, absolute morons, all of them. So that being said, where will I end up? Well, considering AMDs pricing will surely come down after this walloping from Intel today, I think my smartest move would be to wait for the Ryzen 7800X3D. 3D Cache has a massive impact on a lot of games. So much so that the old-gen 5800X3D is beating the new Ryzen 7000 and even the new 13900K in a fair number of games. Since Intel's win today was by an overall small margin, and this should bring the cost of Ryzen 7000 down, this likely means that the 7800X3D will not only likely take back the gaming crown, but it will do so at a fantastic value. Then Ill probably shave 1.0mm from the IHS so I can use my Noctua D-15 without thermal throttling (probably no CPU overclocking this time around just due to heat, maybe PBO + target 90C and call it a day). This way I don't need expensive liquid cooling and can get a reasonably riced system thats both fantastic at gaming and decently good at multi-thread workloads as well. Its not like 16 Threads is weak. So in conclusion, Ill say this: I think buying either Ryzen 7000 or Intel 13th Gen right now, is just not a great idea. With the costs involved in going DDR5 with the issues associated with the new generations, it just doesn't make any sense unless you are bored with a butt load of cash burning a hole in your pocket. So what do you guys think? What route are you going to go? Either way Im disappointed in design and heat management this time around, no matter who you are, its just absurd. EDIT: In case you were wondering, this is how profound of an effect that 3D Cache can have in gaming. This makes sense on a game like Factorio, and the same sort of boost (although not as profound, Factorio is just one of the best examples) happens quite often, especially in similar RTS or similar style games with thousands of units on screen. These large unit quantities throw a huge load at the CPU cores that game is using and eat up cache for breakfast, thus giving you the biggest gains. However, gains are also found in a fair number of AAA games using this same technology.

So i bought a broken ipad for a few bucks awhile ago, i recently have dug it out if a bin and wanted to know if it would be worth fixing. Its a ipad 6th gen cellular The cost of fixing isnt a issue for me. Just wondering if if be able to get around a password or icloud lock it might have on it?

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Hi, i have a pcie 16x gen2 motherboard. Does a gen3 gpu fit on there????? gpu: gtx 1060 evga 3g motherboard: msi 970a-g43

Geekbench leaked pictures for the new Apple MacBook Pro running on Intel 8th gen processors. Current Intel 8th gen is based on the Kaby Lake refresh architecture, both Core i5 and Core i7 are quad cores with hyperthread. https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/4177217 https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/4176220 https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/4176310 https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/4057824 https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/4062620

Simple question really, might have a more complicated answer though. So here goes: Buy the 1080ti now (or after vega release) OR... Wait for the next gen 1180? currently have a 780ti, and it really starts to bother me when I try to run 1440p I just want some opinions on the matter before I make a choice

Hi, I am planning on Upgrading my 6700k CPU and my entry level Z170 motherboard for multiple reasons, but mostly because I am starting to bottleneck my 2080 ti. I have a few questions regarding the upgrade: Should I wait for 10th gen Intel CPUs, or pull the trigger now and get 9900k? My second question tied to the first questions...If I were to get the 9th gen now, with a brand new Z390 motherboard, will that motherboard be compatible with 10th, (11th ect) GEN CPU(s) or are they going to use a new socket? I would most likely go for a more expensive MSI MEG board (maybe even Godlike) so I would hate paying 500+ euros on a motherboard that is not able to handle upcoming CPUs and becomes useless for future hardware. I mostly use my PC for gaming, with some productivity work as well as Streaming. Thanks, Beedyboy

Hi so I have a 6700k and a Z170-A I am not getting the performance that I want so I was wondering if it is worth upgrading to the new z390 chipset or wait for intels 10th gen cpu's. If i do replace the motherboard can someone tell me what steps I should take to make sure my os doesnt go crazy like activation or chipset drivers from z170 conflicting with the z390 chipset drivers things like that thanks!

Will ADATA XPG 256GB SX8200 Pro(ASX8200PNP-256GT-C) support ASRock B450-PRO4 motherboard ? Which has ultra m.2 slot gen 3x4 .

The Twitter user "@TUM_APISAK" on Twitter posted a tweet about some codename he found on im guessing Cinebench since his last codename leak was on Cinebench, heres a screenshot, go ham in the comments Also this is 2 days old, why has no one picked it up im not sure.

Which laptop would be better (beginner level photos, videos editing & illustration ) : one with the Intel core i5 (7th gen)/ 4bg ram/ 2gb NVIDIA GeForce 940mx OR one with Intel core i5 8th gen /4or8 gb ram ?

Hey Guys! I 'm following Linus and the rest of the crew from some years now, but never got into the community thing, but hey.. Some day we get smarter and here I am (sorry for when my English isn't perfect, I'm from Belgium and I speak dutch natively) I didn't find anything like this right away, so I hope I can start this thread.. I was wondering after assembling some computers for my own and friends/family and as most people know, cables are a struggle.. Isn't there any other options/ideas from manufacturers or other people to make this simpler/better? I got an idea stuck into my head for while now.. The one thing that (I think) 'sucks' in a beautiful PC build, are those cables, even after some cable modding, they're still very in sight.. What if manufacturers and case designers would make the motherboard connector(s) (mostly the huge power one) on the BACK of the motherboard? Wouldn't that look ALOT better for smooth, beautiful pc builds? What are your thoughts about this one? What about the practical part for the manufacturers / case modders / pc builders? (You can acces everything else on the back..) What are your ideas for a cleaner pc build look? Thanks! I look forward to any feedback and ideas! :-)

Does anyone know any news about the release of the motherboards for the 8th Gen Intel Coffee Lake CPUs? I'm looking forward to buy them, H - series specifically, I already know about the Z370 motherboards but they are way too much for my needs and my pocket . Replies regarding this topic would be appreciated! Thank you!

Is the Intel 8th Gen H CPUs overclockable?

I have an i5-6500 and I'm considering of buying a new cpu.. is it possible to combine an 8th gen cpu or even a 7th gen?

So if a first gen i5 lets say is a I5 750 tthen whats a second gen? Because 8th ten is 8600 so would 2nd gen just skip like 1600 and go to 2600k? idk how dis works So tell me a name of a 2nd gen i5

Hello guys i have currently have 30000 INR or 468 USD i have to replace the AMD FX-4300 CPU and Mobo To replace with i3 or i5 7th Gen Mobo and Memory Or 1060 to replace with a 750Ti what a great option in between the 2 option Please help Thanks Regard

I have a i5-2500k and I was wondering for the future if I should drop in an i7-3770k to get the 3rd gen PCIe for my GPU's. I currently have two GTX 670's, but I plan to upgrade to dual 1070's in the future. Will using PCIe 2.0 severely bottleneck the GTX 1070's? Or should I just get one 1070 and spend the other money on an i7-3770k? Any other suggestions would be welcome.

Just a quick question: Do current gen gpu's (both new and used) go down in price when the new pascal and polaris cards come out? I haven't been into computers long enough to know what happens with a new architecture release Thanks in advance for any helpful replies.

The folks over at Anandtech, got to play with a brand new wifi testing device that can do a lot more than just your basic wi-fi testing. http://anandtech.com/show/10081/wifi-testing-with-ixia-wavedevice

My 3630qm CPU supports PCIe gen 3 16x, but every compatible chip set only supports gen 2. From what I understand one PCIe slot is connected directly to the mother board and should run at gen 3, and any other PCIe slots (such asWi-Fi card slot) would run at gen 2 because it's connected through the chip set. Can any one verify this? Thoughts?

Hello! I'm planning on buying the up and coming 1000 series GTX GPU's. I also want to buy a new CPU. I wonder, I don't want to change my mobo so I have to stick with 1150 socket CPU's, if so, I will be buying the i7 - 4790k. Can you guys recommend that or would the GPU be extremely bottlenecked by the CPU? I know there are no specs yet, but what is your opinion? Kind regards, Laurens

So im still looking to buy a msi gs70 with the new 6700hq skylake cpu and a 970m 3gb. I was wondering if anyone has used this laptop or anyone of the GS series by msi and what their thoughts are about it. Ill be buying through xoticpc with some custom laser eching and other upgrades. Total configured price is looking at around 2200USD My planned set up for it -i7 6700hq -16gb hyperX impact 16gb ddr4 2400mhz -970m 3gb -single 1tb 950 pro nvme drive ONLY. (When i buy i will only have a 1tb mechanical drive and clone it to a 1tb 950pro once it comes out) -no mechanical hhd once 950 pro is installed -white glove clean -id diamond thermal compound upgrade -windows 10 with bloatware removed

RealTemp pic. Are these temperatures normal ? Im sitting here with the window open trying to "cool it" a bit. CPU is not overclocked atm (id does turbo by itself too 4.4ish iirc), and the cooler is stock. That said, I haven't changed the thermal paste since I bought it (4ish years ago). Should I be worried? Is that normal? Should I start looking for a better cooler (Maybe AIO like Corsair's H115)?

Differences? Pros? Cons? Strengths? Weaknesses? Whats the main differences?