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5 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:
Because we game. I mean iGame.
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that's the problem of "maths on the internet"
how much 1080's/ ti's/ 2060s/570/580/590/5700/980/ti's/1060/2070/2080/ti's/etc do have gamers laying around though? Still not enough to beat the measly 9 million 3090's?
idk, I just know you took the thing you knew there wouldn't be enough to make your 'calculations', or not?
He was just giving the 3090 as a form of measurement. For etherium for example any card under about 5gb of vram (probably 6 in a day when difficulty increases) will be unable to mine it. So then you have the fact that eth mining is more memory speed dependent. So for example a 2070s would only get about 37mh/s where my 3080 can pull 100-105 mh/s. Then you have to look at how much power is consumed for that hash rate. For a 2070s I would guess it is in the ballpark of 150watts, vs my 3080 using 207w.
Anyways the point is that of the gpus you gave as examples some of them cannot even mine Etherium. The others will do so, but the cost effectiveness would be much lower as well as the actual hash rates. Then you will just give people a taste of mining which will just lead to more miners lol. When I can pay for a 3080 in about 2 months worth of mining it becomes very tempting to just keep adding cards.- harryk and Mark Kaine
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14 minutes ago, atxcyclist said:
Currency values are based on gold and silver, not the other way around.
Yes and no. I cannot walk up to the federal reserve and trade my cash for gold. Cash no longer has the same value it use to. The amount of money circulating is much higher than the gold reserves it represents and this doesn't even dive into trade deficits and the like.
So while I can buy gold from private parties... I cannot just walk down to the federal reserve and trade cash for gold that is because in 1971 most governments moved away from the "gold standard." So money is just paper with a value derived by the government that we have chosen to accept and use. So again, you don't need a government backing to give something a value or use it as a form of currency. You need a government backing if you want some type of guarantee that the currency will hold value, but with how the world market is that value, even of the dollar, fluctuates compared to other currencies... just not as drastically. -
2 minutes ago, atxcyclist said:
Everyone has to use and accept it for it to be viable as currency. Every sales counter, every private citizen, and every banking institution. Just because there are brick and mortars and online institutions that will exchange cryptocurrency for something like USD, Euro, Yen, and etc., doesn't legitimize the crypto as a true currency. It's just bartering, and at that the assumed value of cryptocurrencies are so volatile that within a 20 minute span you could go from being able to buy a new Mercedes to being able to buy a Big Mac with the same amount of a cryptocurrency. There's no accountability in any sense with crypto.
Which is the risk people who use it have to accept. It only takes 2 people agreeing on something as a form of currency to make it legitimate (barter). The whole point of crypto currency was to decentralize currency. So crypto doesn't have a value derived from any one government.
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10 hours ago, TOMPPIX said:
I can't make counterfeit money but the cryptocurrency market sure can... Burn these motherf*ckers to the ground already.
Except it isn't counterfeit? They aren't trying to make a copy of the Dollar, Euro, or any other currency.
Crypto also has a value which is created by the resources required to generate (mine) it. Using it as a form of payment is no different than any other type of barter and the government trying to control barter becomes a pretty iffy area. I mean if crypto being digitally mined means it has no value... then maybe gold, oil, and other precious resources shouldn't be tradable for money as they are just physical extensions of this. Barter is barter... there shouldn't be exceptions to this. -
46 minutes ago, DanWhite said:
I've been using the laptop till now and the screw is still inside i think
and every time you power it on or move the laptop you risk killing it.
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46 minutes ago, atxcyclist said:
Currency has to be established by a government to be legitimate, because there has to be universal acceptance of that currency. Crypto isn't like that. If I had a wallet with cryptocurrency in it, I cannot go to my local grocery store and buy anything, nor could I go to a car dealer and purchase a new car.
No. The difference is USD and other currency is backed by a country/bank. With bitcoin there is no physical backing in the same way... the Currency gets it's value from the resources required to mine it and the value people place on it. As long as people use it as a currency it will still be a viable source. So while etherium for example doesn't have a country backing it... that doesn't mean I can't exchange it for a currency that does.. and as long as others see it that way it will continue to have a value.
I mean currency was originally a physical representation of how much gold a country had. Which is why some currency is worth more than others, but that pool has been so diluted and gold is no longer the much coveted resource it once was. -
26 minutes ago, BigNavi31 said:
So i tried a fresh install of windows on a different drive, however it doesn’t seem to have made much of a difference.
I assume it might be a hardware issue then?
Has anyone got any advice on where to start with trouble shooting the hardware?
Thanks again
Try running a few benchmarks and comparing it with other similar setups. It might just be an issue with the game after an update. One game just isn't a good judge of whether or not a problem exists with your gpu.
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7 minutes ago, james_bond said:
As you know there are mainly three kinds of speakers namely (a) bookshelf, (b) floorstanding & (c) satellite.
I have used only satellite speakers all my life. I started with Creative & when that one died I purchased a Logitech.
What kind of speakers do you use with your desktop ?
People who have used all three types which one sounds the best ?
I have an aging set of the Logitech z906 speakers, and I also had a pair of the Klipsh Promedia. They both sound just fine, but truthfully I feel headphones are just better for most pc applications these days. Dolby atmos works flawlessly on most headsets and produces a much better 3d effect than anything other than an actual atmos speaker setup. They muffle all the other noise so you aren't losing emersion to random sounds.
So for me I think any of the three solutions you listed can sound good given it has a power sub in the mix. That is not as needed for good bookshelf or floor standing speakers, but it still does a lot to improve sound. I just think that when it comes to games, music, even movies being watched from a pc... that the headphones are extremely hard to beat. -
2022 is a long time to still have the issue. It would mean that numerous companies have completely failed. They have more than enough time to increase their production capabilities in that time. To work around the current supply line issues due to covid. For retailers to come up with solutions to allow gamers to get cards despite bots and miner demands. We are already seeing places that have done this... this should only improve going forward.
Like I said I was able to get a 5900x and 3080 in a single week at their current msrp (3080 was at tariff price msrp though). I can walk into my local microcenter today and get an Asus EK 3090 (due to many being unwilling to pay the price lol).
Now I live in the USA with quick access to a microcenter, but even outside of microcenter the USA has a much better chance to get these cards than some other countries. Those are the ones I feel for the most. -
6 hours ago, jagdtigger said:
Governments could kill it if they wanted to pretty easily.......
Only if every government in the world had the exact same stance. Which will not happen in any of our life times. Not only that since they government has already basically acknowledged it as a form of currency that can be taxed... they would be on the hook for any losses caused if they did kill it off.
That all aside the way block chain works would make it incredibly hard for a government to "kill it." They could make it illegal, but that wouldn't stop it. They could try to shutdown the parts of the chain in the USA, but that still wouldn't stop it. It would just lead to more secure exchanges that would be more inclined to completely go anonymous.
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10 hours ago, jagdtigger said:
Cant wait until pissed off gamers will start to blow crypto sites to high heavens with LOIC.....
One thing is sure, the sooner crypto gets killed is the better for everyone.
I think that ship has already sailed. We are past the point of it just dying and going away. So we are already past the event horizon and are doomed to watch how crypto evolves going forward. Heck, I have been mining again with just my gaming pc when I am not playing on it which has already netted me about .60ish of a coin. I doubt I will even sell any time soon. I mean as it stands this gpu will pay for itself in about 2 months
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@carl010010Do you have a microcenter near by? If so getting a 30xx series gpu and a 5xxx series cpu aren't that difficult.
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52 minutes ago, Emergence177013 said:
priority on silence and good overclocking capability, though hard drive might wanna be switched out if possible
I would go with a higher watt PSU. If he goes with a new gpu for example a 3080 then that power supply will have a hell of a time trying to keep up with it all under load. My 5900x and 3080 when running full out can pull over 600 watts alone before adding other items into the mix.
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On 1/29/2021 at 7:22 AM, Ashley xD said:
i don't just mean brands with this. for example my list:
For laptops i always go with MacBooks.
My OS outside of one Mac i have is always Manjaro, at least as primary.
For phones i always use iPhones.
when it comes to computers my GPU is always AMD, and my base platform is always something enterprise, like my current build with a server board and Xeon cpu's.
For headphones i always go with Sony.
As my TV i always use a CRT.
My main computer display is always 16:10. i really hate 16:9... (part of the reason i use a 2011 MBP as main laptop, even though it does not run macOS. it has a 16:10 screen)For laptops it will need to be windows. I don't really have brand loyalty, but go off of reviews and find the one that best fits my use case.
Phones I am pretty much a Samsung galaxy only person these days. They have been rock solid for my needs.
For pc... I again do not pigeon hole myself into a particular brand, but I do mostly own nvidia when it comes to GPUs. They have been leading high end performance which is normally the segment u purchase in.
As for TV... when u do upgrade I normally go for something high-end, but sensible in cost. So in general I will have a main entertainment TV that is 72+ inches and within 0-2 years old and then my other TV are just hand me downs from upgrades lol. I probably won't upgrade my main TV again until 8k is more the norm.
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On 10/14/2020 at 6:20 AM, 1982 Original said:
I currently have an Asrock B550 Steel Legend motherboard with a Ryzen 3600. I am using a pcie 3.0 riser cable. The RTX 3080 is in route, will I need a new riser cable to enable pcie gen 4? I am seeing mixed information. I’ve seen a Greg Salazar video where he clearly states a pcie 3.0 cable doesn’t work with 4.0. I’ve also seen a Paul’s Hardware video where he had to install riser cable and card in gen 3 mode, but then could switch to gen 4 and the riser cable worked just fine, it’s in his 3090 sli Rip Jay Rip GN video.
Does anyone have a definitive answer on the issue?
You can use the pci-e 3 riser cable if you manually select pci-e 3.0 mode for that slot in your bios. If you leave it on auto you will more than likely have issues. If you want to run pci-e 4 then you will need a pci-e 4 riser cable. I picked one up from linkup for around 65-70ish and it has worked 100% without issues.
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18 hours ago, not_really_gamer said:
by the time the 3070 comes back in stock, the minimum requirement of vram will be 16gbs
This just isn't true. Most people think they need much more Vram than they really do. If you aren't running extreme resolutions like 8k or using the card for content creation where you need massive amounts of vram then again no need for it.
When it comes down to say the 3080 the speed of the ram make it much better than say the 3060 with 12gb of ram. Having more ram when you don't have speed to utilize it doesn't really help do anything other than make it look better than it is.Lastly, moving forward Dlss with give these cards a lot of future proofing due to the effect it has on vram usage and fps.
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16 hours ago, GhostRoadieBL said:
DerBauer's video was extremely close to the test I was looking to run so I can extrapolate most of the conclusion from his data.
He was specifically looking for "does a lower pump speed reduce the temps" which isn't what I was looking for at all, there is nothing in the physical sciences of closed system cooling which supports that myth.
However his data does support the theory of not needing 100% pump speed to maintain equilibrium in the system, the "normal" setting at 56% flow rate and "high" setting at 100% flow rate maintains the CPU temperature while greatly reducing the volume and velocity of the water passing through the blocks. A flow rate around 60% seems to be that specific system's sweet spot when at maximum watt load while reducing the wear on the components.
Thanks @Natty Ice and @AngryBeaver for helping me solve this one. After some more testing on block resistance to erosion (so many different fluids) I will have to put together a "how to tune your water cooling system" tutorial to help keep people's systems from unnecessary early wear and tear.
So rpm imo isn't the best gadget, but instead lpm or gpm. There is a point with flow rate that you start hitting diminishing returns. I have forgotten the magic number for it atm, but that should be the aim instead of a % of pump speed.
There are a lot of factors that go into flow rate so rpm wouldn't be a good one size fits all setting.
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Imo function is more important than a slight difference in anesthetics.
That being said 3600 cl16 would be my aim. For the 1x1 infinity fabric.
So if 64gb of the royal 3600 is to expensive then go with 8x4 for 32 gb of it. Outside of extensive VMs there isn't any real need for that amount of ram.
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On 1/28/2021 at 3:03 AM, linuxChips2600 said:
Does anyone have water-cooled VRAM (note VRAM not VRM) temps to post for reference (Google mixes the two terms up with its "fuzzy search" functionality; no luck with using the term "memory" instead in Google search nor searching this forum directly either)? And yes you must post the temps under sustained 100% GDDR6X load when thermal equilibrium has been (basically) reached; otherwise it doesn't count.
I'll post mine in a bit, need to heat up my loop anyways since I am running system reboot through it.
Anyways off the top of my head game temps are mid 50-60c and my mining temps with a hefty memory overclock are in the 78-86c
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14 minutes ago, Tadziunia said:
Sprayed with WD40 anyway and yeah noise is even worse now :DD F"""" me... MSI APA1225M12 those fans can't be found separately, MSI told me to check if it's clean ofc it is, but now i took out sticker. Dunno if they would take it as warranty case. I would just buy new fan, but it's nowhere to be found. Any recommendation on third party fans that would fit perfectly ?
If you don't need rgb pickup a pack of arctic p12s
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35 minutes ago, Natty Ice said:
That DerBauer video answers the question pretty definitively. Nonetheless, I said I'd run a test so here are my results.
Testing was done on the system in my sig, using the Vega 64 and H115i Pro AIO. iCue offers three pump RPM settings for this unit: 1100 RPM, 2100 RPM, and 2800 RPM; I tested each with the GPU power limit set to 165W, and again with power limit at 330W. The AIO's Radiator is mounted to the side of the case as an exhaust so I was able to remove the side panel with rad attached and place it a small distance away to minimize effects of heat in the rest of the system. AIO fans were set to their maximum speed of 1200 RPM. The system was given ample time to cool down between tests, until all temperatures were within 1*C of the idle temps recorded before the first run. I couldn't find my thermometer to check ambient temps but it felt like about 65*F/18*C. For a load I used Furmark at 640x480 with no AA.
And, yeah, regarding OP's initial question, I did not notice any substantial difference in the length of time it took for the closed loop to reach equilibrium. In all my tests the temperature delta above idle reached about 90% of it's final value within about 2-3 minutes of the start of the run, and by the 10 minute mark it had stabilized to the point that no rise was recorded for 60+ seconds. Since the temp rise follows a more or less logarithmic curve I struggled to pinpoint an exact "ok it's done heating up" moment but honestly it all looked the same to me regardless of pump speed and power dissipation.
As for the temperature data, I'll let that speak for itself
GPU Core+HBM 165W
Pump Quiet (1100 RPM)
starting temp- 24*C core / 25*C hotspot / 25.5*C liquid
ending temp- 44*C core / 59*C hotspot / 40.4*C liquid
Pump Balanced (2100 RPM)
starting temp- 24*C core / 25*C hotspot / 25.9*C liquid
ending temp- 39*C core / 53*C hotspot / 36.5*C liquid
Pump Extreme (2800 RPM)
starting temp- 24*C core / 25*C hotspot / 26.5*C liquid
ending temp- 39*C core / 52*C hotspot / 36.7*C liquid
GPU Core+HBM 330W
Pump Quiet (1100 RPM)
starting temp- 24*C core / 25*C hotspot / 25.9*C liquid
ending temp- 62*C core / 92*C hotspot / 51.2*C liquid
Pump Balanced (2100 RPM)
starting temp- 24*C core / 25*C hotspot / 25.6*C liquid
ending temp- 53*C core / 82*C hotspot / 46.0*C liquid
Pump Extreme (2800 RPM)
starting temp- 24*C core / 25*C hotspot / 26.5*C liquid
ending temp- 53*C core / 82*C hotspot / 46.4*C liquidKeep those pumps a-spinnin, folks. Flow rate is important.
One thing that I am curious about, is what would happen if we tried to have it "both ways", ie have high flow rate through the waterblock and low flow rate through the radiators in the same loop. Theoretically such a scenario would be achievable by using multiple radiators and connecting them in parallel instead of series; the pump and CPU/GPU would still see the full flow but the rads would see 1/n flow and 1*n dwell time (unless my understanding of fluid dynamics is totally borked, which it probably is)
I bet there's a YouTube video for that too.
The loop flow rate will always be = to most constrained point unless you run a splitter, but that will mean water tends to take the easier path.
Also while your AIO test does basically match up with the video I posted... there is a big difference in aio flow rate which maxes out at around .2-.3 gpm and a custom loop where gpm can be over 2+.
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On 1/12/2021 at 9:17 PM, WalkerYYJ said:
Curious if anyone has heard from the grapevine anything regarding stock for 5900 or 5950s?
I’m about to have a full new rig on-hand and am stuck between buying a 3000 series as a temp stand-in, or being a total asshat and paying a scalper, thus perpetuating the horseshit (serious moral dilemma going on about that).
Is it total radio silence from AMD or have rumors leaked out anywhere?
If you have a microcenter close by then I would say the 5000s is easy to get and the 30xx series is too.
Otherwise you need to watch the best buy drops and/or get in on the Newegg lottery.
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Password vaults are the only way forward. Just make sure you have a good vault password lol.
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On 1/23/2021 at 5:49 PM, PhoenixFire22588 said:
Thank you! Getting those certs is what I'll aim towards first. I appreciate you laying them all out for me in such a clear manner.
Another path in IT to look in to is Infosec. Anything in IT security is highly paid and in tremendous demand. Since you don't have a degree I would aim for thr comptia trifecta (A+, Network+, and Security+). Now depending on state/country an entry level Infosec analyst normally start in the 60-70k range on average. Get 5+ years of experience and that pay can easily break 6 figures.
I am throwing this out there because while IT professionals are a dime a dozen when it comes to Information security there is a huge worker deficit.
Not you too! - Miners looking towards gaming laptops powered by NVIDIA's Ampere GPUs for Ethereum
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Exactly. My 3080 if used 24/7 to mine pays for itself in 2 months... then it is all profit. That is also at current rates which are likely to continue climbing with occasional crashes thrown in.