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Rainbow vomit approved
 
No RGB control on my old AM3 motherboard, so they're just hooked up with the included controller for the time. Will have more control over them once the new hardware is installed. Motherboard should be in tomorrow!
 
 
 

So to update this, I ended up throwing the system together last weekend
 
Ryzen 5 3600
AMD Wraith Prism cooler
Asrock B450M Steel Legend
16GB (2x8GB) Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200
WD Black NVME 1TB
MSI Gaming Z RTX 2060
Corsair CX550M
Fractal Design 120mm Prisma fans
Phantek RGB strips
Cooler Master Masterbox Q300L
 
 
Turned out really well. Although I'm not a HUGE fan of the RGB rainbow vomit lol, I asked if he wanted a specific color scheme set up and he said no, just multicolor cycling, so that's how he's getting it. He can play with the settings at any time and set the colors the way he wants if he chooses to change it up.
 
Seems to perform great! He'll be getting it next weekend (he lives 3 hours away), so I'm excited to see his reaction.
 
He's already purchased the rest of the peripherals himself based on some of my suggestions to him, a 244htz monitor, keyboard and mouse, etc, so all I had to put together was the tower. All in, with Windows 10 Pro and an Office 2019 license (you know for "school work") it came to just over $1300, so he get's $300 on the house
 
I have a video on my YouTube channel documenting it, but it's scheduled to go live AFTER he gets it, since he's a subscriber and he wanted to be surprised by the end result. Pretty sure he's not an LTT forum member, so I think it's safe posting pictures here lol.
 
 
There's still room to grow with it. If the R5 isn't enough, he could step up to an R7. There's still 2 empty DIMM slots if 16GB isn't enough for him. It also bother's my OCD a little with the gap of nothingness in the front on the inside... an AIO cooler would fill some of the void and give things a little more depth in there I think, but that probably wouldn't happen UNLESS he stepped up to an R7. And with the RTX 30 series about to hit the shelves, I'm sure it won't be long before he will be wanting one of those. Hell I already want one and I JUST bought my 5700 lmao. I can't say I'm super impressed with the build quality of the Q300L... It's on par with the quality of the DIYPC case I put my wife's rig in, and it was CHEAP... But I guess I'm just use to dealing with my older Antec battle ship of a case...
 
 
 
 

So to update this, I ended up throwing the system together last weekend
 
Ryzen 5 3600
AMD Wraith Prism cooler
Asrock B450M Steel Legend
16GB (2x8GB) Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200
WD Black NVME 1TB
MSI Gaming Z RTX 2060
Corsair CX550M
Fractal Design 120mm Prisma fans
Phantek RGB strips
Cooler Master Masterbox Q300L
 
 
Turned out really well. Although I'm not a HUGE fan of the RGB rainbow vomit lol, I asked if he wanted a specific color scheme set up and he said no, just multicolor cycling, so that's how he's getting it. He can play with the settings at any time and set the colors the way he wants if he chooses to change it up.
 
Seems to perform great! He'll be getting it next weekend (he lives 3 hours away), so I'm excited to see his reaction.
 
He's already purchased the rest of the peripherals himself based on some of my suggestions to him, a 244htz monitor, keyboard and mouse, etc, so all I had to put together was the tower. All in, with Windows 10 Pro and an Office 2019 license (you know for "school work") it came to just over $1300, so he get's $300 on the house
 
I have a video on my YouTube channel documenting it, but it's scheduled to go live AFTER he gets it, since he's a subscriber and he wanted to be surprised by the end result. Pretty sure he's not an LTT forum member, so I think it's safe posting pictures here lol.
 
 
There's still room to grow with it. If the R5 isn't enough, he could step up to an R7. There's still 2 empty DIMM slots if 16GB isn't enough for him. It also bother's my OCD a little with the gap of nothingness in the front on the inside... an AIO cooler would fill some of the void and give things a little more depth in there I think, but that probably wouldn't happen UNLESS he stepped up to an R7. And with the RTX 30 series about to hit the shelves, I'm sure it won't be long before he will be wanting one of those. Hell I already want one and I JUST bought my 5700 lmao. I can't say I'm super impressed with the build quality of the Q300L... It's on par with the quality of the DIYPC case I put my wife's rig in, and it was CHEAP... But I guess I'm just use to dealing with my older Antec battle ship of a case...
 
 
 
 

Both
 
3 pin is just for the fan's power. The RGB plug is purely for the RGB lighting.

I ended up getting everything together the other day. The brackets really made the case look more current.
 
I settled with a blue and red lighting scheme, for now anyhow
 
 
 

Rainbow vomit approved
 
No RGB control on my old AM3 motherboard, so they're just hooked up with the included controller for the time. Will have more control over them once the new hardware is installed. Motherboard should be in tomorrow!
 
 
 

Lol yeah me either, but at the moment I don't have a whole lot of control with the included controller that's just powered from a SATA power plug. Once I get the new guts installed with the 3700x and it's B450 board (which the mobo should be in today), I'll be able to control the LED's directly from the motherboard's software side for more effects or just a solid color.

Rainbow vomit approved
 
No RGB control on my old AM3 motherboard, so they're just hooked up with the included controller for the time. Will have more control over them once the new hardware is installed. Motherboard should be in tomorrow!
 
 
 

Parts for the rebuild started arriving today, including the fans. Looks like these 3D printed brackets should work out great  still no new developments on integrating a filter, but that's no big deal for the time being.
 
Picture 1, the Enermax SquaRGB fans.
Picture 2, how they would mount in the original Antec brackets. Notice how much of the RGB ring would be covered up.
Picture 3, how I originally designed the mounting hole tabs to stay away from the edges and leave the RGB ring fully exposed.
Picture 4 and 5, fan mounted the other way leaves the entire front of the fan exposed.
Picture 6, original Antec grills installed onto the new bracket.
Picture 7, mock up of the assembly installed into the case.
Picture 8, happy coincidence, the RGB ring on the new fans is the same general shape as the top mounted 200mm fan on the 902 case, so it sort of fits the general design
 
 
 

Preliminary test fit with a random old 120 fan proves the design fits. Just waiting on my new fans to come in! Will likely use the full front face and mount 3 fans in it.
 
Seeing how much room I have, I may play with making a design to allow mounting a pair of 140 fans.
 
 

I decided to have a crack at modeling and printing a bracket that will allow me to mount the fans and the original Antec grill inserts, and this first version seems to have come out pretty good. The only downside is that I don't have a way to put a filter on them at the moment, but I may be able to come up with something. Or I may just leave it filterless and live with it, I don't know lol.
 
Now just awaiting the fans to come in so that I can mount them to the brackets and install them! This design took all of about 20 minutes and the print took about a 2 hours. If this one works out good, I'm going to just go ahead and put all 3 fans in the front and get one more to mount in the rear.
 
 

I'd dig my other old rig out of the closet with a pair of RX480's in it, but I'm afraid I'll burn the house down...

Hey I get to give my home server's Xeon and Quadro something to do when it's not being used as a game server, file server, or CAD modeling 
 
I use to FAH back in like 06-07 with my pitiful socket 478 Pentium 4 and an APG slot GeForce 6200. Safe to say the output was not impressive lol.

Hey I get to give my home server's Xeon and Quadro something to do when it's not being used as a game server, file server, or CAD modeling 
 
I use to FAH back in like 06-07 with my pitiful socket 478 Pentium 4 and an APG slot GeForce 6200. Safe to say the output was not impressive lol.

well I just stumbled upon this so apparently it's a thing
 
http://community.coolermaster.com/topic/22626-v8-cooler-is-am4-compatible-with-bracket-mod/
 
 
 

I ALMOST did a video review on this, but I figured I'd start with a typed up one with photos and see how that goes
 
 
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811353131
 
 
Upon planning a Ryzen build as a Christmas gift for the wife, I decided early on to stick with an inexpensive white case, because A) it's her first scratch build PC, and B) she likes to doodle, so a clean white canvas would be something she could paint on to personalize it.
 
 
Enter the DIYPC line up of cases, specifically the Jax12-W. A tower capable of fitting a full ATX sized motherboard inside, clear side window, a single optical drive bay, power supply shroud, USB 3.0 front port, and surprisingly ample room for cable management inside.
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
 
 
 
So let's get the obvious "cons" out of the way that you get with a $30 case.
 
Although it is full steel construction (aside from the plastic front panel), it is VERY thin steel, which I suppose is to be expected at the price. Looks great sitting on a desk either way as the painted fit and finish is nice, just don't nock it over or lean on it with your elbow for that mater, you'll end up with some warpage... May also benefit from some sound deadener applied to the inside of the panels to stiffen it up and cut down on noise. All riveted construction, so there's no removing of the lower shroud for the PSU or drive caddy forward of it, at least not without the help of a drill and/or Dremel. Components are installed behind them simply by enter through the side once the panel is removed. Only time this may really get in the way is if you're trying to mount a front radiator for water cooling, but let's be honest if a custom water cooling loop is in your budget you're probably not looking at $30 cases... so it's not that big of a con, but just something that's noteworthy.
 

 

 

 
 
 
The front 5.25 optical drive bay cover is simply stamped out and has to be punched out, so once it's popped out, it's out. Same goes for the rear PCI/PCI-E slot covers. Granted with the PCI covers you can at least stick some universal covers back on to cover up old openings if components are swapped or removed.
 
The thumb screws that hold the side panels on are, to be honest, a joke, being plastic... maybe that's being nit-picky, but how much could have actual all metal thumb screws cost to include?
 

 

 
 
 
Lastly is the airflow forethought. Although there's a little gap behind the front cover allowing for the single front fan mount, it's not going to be moving much air through it, at least not without some restriction creating turbulence. Some creative modding and cutting on the large bare front plastic cover could elevate this though. There are some little side vents for air to enter on the front cover at least.
 

 
 
 
No top exhaust for easily mounted AIO CPU water coolers or custom loop rads, but again I default to my previous statement about water cooling and this case...
 

 
 
 
On a side note, I found the mismatched 120mm fans on the case (white on the front intake, red LED lit exhaust on the rear) sort of odd, but whatever I suppose.
 

 
 
 
It does have some air intakes on the bottom. The rear of which at the PSU does have a mesh type filter/cover, although it's certainly not an easily removable one and requires some flexing and finagling to remove for cleaning. It is the only filter on the case, the rest of the "intakes" are wide open.
 

 
 
 
 
Onto the pros.
 
For starters, it's a $30 case!
 
It's fully painted interior looks great through the side window. It does have a neat "hidden" style optical drive bay which is a nice touch to keep the front clean looking. The 5.25 external drive bay isn't for everyone as most people don't use them at all any more, but for those of us still clinging to our DVD collection and burning CD/DVD's, it's nice to retain the optical drive. The top mounted IO is great if your PC sits on the floor as many people keep theirs, although some might find it inconvenient if your PC sits up on the desk, which most will do with a case like this since it has a side window, you know, so you can oogle at your creation
 
There are some decently sized plastic feet on the bottom to keep it up off what ever surface you set it on, allowing some good air flow entry to any bottom mounted intake fans you may choose to install.
 
There's ample room inside for cable management. The side panel behind the motherboard tray has an outward protrusion to it which gives a little more room for wire routing and "stuffing" behind it.
 

 
 
 
The front IO has some decent length cables inside so they're easily routed to where they need to go while still being able to keep them mostly hidden. And if they end up being visible they are at least black and not rainbowed... Not braided or anything, but black none the less.
 

 

 
 
 
The included case fans have both a 4 pin molex plug and 3 pin PWM motherboard connector. If you're going to use the included fans, I would suggest using the PWM on the motherboard to control their speed, otherwise use a fan controller on the 4 pin molex plug. Full speed on the included fans will not be "audibly convenient"... They are however standard 120mm fans and can be replaced with ease if you choose to do so (I would recommend to be honest).
 

 
 
 
Plenty of extra hardware included, including a 2 pin motherboard speaker! Which everyone uses these days... I mean what is this 1995? lol
 

 
 
 
 
 
All in all, I can honestly say that you get what you pay for with this $30 case, but for the price it is still a great deal. Expect some corners on quality to be cut at the price point. With some minor mods like sound deadening, fan swapping, and if you want to take the extra step to cut open up the front cover to allow for more intake airflow, this case will make a great platform beginner PC build, either a basic home/office use PC or even gaming PC (although the airflow mods I mentioned should really be considered if you plan to put gaming hardware inside). Taking the price into consideration, I would give it a solid 8 out of 10 for overall value. It's pretty darn good for $30, but the manufacturer cut some corners to save pennies where they could have easily made the case feel that much more premium. I would gladly have paid another $5 on the price for some all metal thumb screws and some easily removable filters on all of the intakes, and a PSU shroud that was simply screwed into place as apposed to be riveted in. Again, something that can be fixed pretty easily with some minor modding.

This is WAY more common than it should be...
 
random person - "my hard drive wont turn on, can you look at it?"
me - "what? how do you know that's what's wrong with... nevermind..." *insert face palm here*

To this day my step-mother calls it a "UBS port"...
 
And a guy that use to work with me told me he wanted "HDMI headlights for his car", referring to HID headlights... auto related, but still...

To this day my step-mother calls it a "UBS port"...
 
And a guy that use to work with me told me he wanted "HDMI headlights for his car", referring to HID headlights... auto related, but still...

Now im starting to understand why the profit margin is so high for cases. If a 30$ case can have this level of quality, it makes you wonder how much they make on those hundred dollar cases.

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Thank you kind sir

Unless you plan on running an SLI setup or 6 spinner hard drives, the 850w PSU in your list in the link is a bit overkill... Could save a little cash stepping down to a 600-650w (maybe lower) and still have headroom with the setup you have there.
 
You'll definitely want at least the Ryzen 5 series if you plan to go any higher than the 1060 in the future; the 1060 pretty much taps out the Ryzen 3 (anything higher than the 1060 and the Ryzen 3 becomes a bottleneck), so good choice there. Alternatively if you want to save some cash now, you COULD step down the the Ryzen 3 1200 and pair it with the 1060, just keep in mind that if you do go to upgrade the 1060 down the road, you'd have to upgrade the Ryzen 3 1200 as well...
 
I would agree on the single 8gb stick if that's the motherboard you go with. Being that it only has the 2 DIMM slots, once you put those 2 4gb sticks in, that's it. An upgrade will mean replacing them completely. Where as if you went with a single 8gb stick now, if you wanted to upgrade later you can drop in another 8gb stick right along side. The dual channel 2x4gb sticks may give you a little edge in performance (more so better numbers in benchmarks...), but honestly most won't notice in game play... Long story short, dual channel split into two sticks IS a little better performance wise, but if you do the dual channel route you're going to want a motherboard with more than 2 DIMM slots if you think you'll want to upgrade RAM capacity down the road, at least cost effectively.
 
If I had to suggest a different motherboard, sticking with the same ASRock AB350 platform, the Pro4 would be my suggestion (and not because I just got one myself :P) It's roughly the same price, is a little larger but will still fit in that case in your list, and bumps you up to 4 DIMM slots, so you could run the 2x4gb sticks now and double that up later if you wanted to.
 
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157761