Monitor help! Will these connections work? What monitor should I get?

[Vybriid]

Alright I so this is my first ever build/set-up so please excuse my noobness. I am trying to put together a project where I will build a custom PC and get dual monitors with it. I will be getting a GeForce GTX 970 that has one DVI-I (Dual Link) and one DVI-D (Dual Link). 



PART I:

Can you check and see if what I have below would function correctly together?



Monitor 1: GTX 970's DVI-I (Dual Link) *(OUTPUT)* --> DVI-D (Single Link) *(CORD)* --> Monitor 1's DVI-D (Single Link) *(INPUT)*

Monitor 2: GTX 970's DVI-D (Dual Link) *(OUTPUT)* --> DVI-D (Single Link) *(CORD)* --> Monitor 2's DVI-D (Single Link) *(INPUT)*





PART II:

Now what monitors should I get?



Musts:



* 21.5 inches - 24 inches

* 1920 * 1080

* equal to or less than 5 ms response time

* equal to or greater than 60 Hz

* combined price of both monitors equal to or less than 300 USD



Preferred:



* small bezel

* matte finish





Would the monitors I am currently leaning towards work with what I am trying to accomplish?

[Gamerfanatic]

First:

For 1080 dual or single link dvi doesn't matter... if your GPU only has a dual link output, but you have two monitors you need a splitter. 

 

Second:

Two monitors for only 300$ will be difficult, but I found some I could say they are worth looking at.

 

Asus VX228H

BenQ GL2460HM

[GoodBytes]

Welcome to the forum.

 

DVI-I means that the plug is DVI-D + has extra pins for VGA support, so that you can use a DVI to VGA adapter, like this one:

 

Dual-Link DVI really means: 2x DVI plugs merged together.Dual-lInk DVI is backward compatible with single link DVI.

Dual link DVI was a hack made (but standardized), to support resolution above 1920x1200 @ 60Hz, as at the time where we wanted larger resolution displays, DisplayPort didn't exists.

 

So for part 1, the answer is: Yes, if your monitor is 1920x1200 @ 60Hz or bellow.

You can also use DisplayPort to Single-Link DVI (max resolution 1920x1200 @ 60Hz) cable/adapter. You don't need to buy a GPU that has 2x DVI plus. Just saying, if it frees options for you.

 

For Part 2:

 -> Response time is a meaningless figure, much like dynamic contrast ratio. Response time is the speed of which the monitor changes from 1 color to another. You will see that the box/specs of the monitor always says "g-t-g", next to it, and that is what makes it meaningless. It means the speed from gray-to-gray (g-t-g). The problem is... which gray to which gray. Further apart the grays, the slower the number will be. If the 2x gray colors are identical, then you have 0ms response time, as the color is already there. The real response time you want is white to black, or black to white (same), as you only have 1 black, and 1 white. But manufactures don't measure this, as the figures looks bad.

Manufacture defense is that the response time that they provide, they say, that it represents more "real-life" based on the intended purpose of the monitor. So for example, in gaming monitor, they pick 2 gray color very close together, as it is unlikely that you'll have white and black or many black objects flying in a bright background. But professionals grade monitors, black text on white background is more common, as the monitor is used more for reading/coding/working with software that are in such high contrast environment. However, this is where it gets messy. Because that is not always the case. Some manufactures uses 1 standard for all their monitors, other uses the panel manufacture measurement to not break their head for all or some monitors series... and well.. it's a mess.

 

All to say, response time is a meaningless figure. To know the real response time, you need to check in depth monitor review sites, which uses the same approach to measure the monitor response side. 2 great sites: prad.de (http://www.prad.de/en/index.html), and tftcentral (http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/)

 

 

A proper monitor needs to be fully adjustable. These no height adjustable will just not allow you to sit comfortably, and then you'll stack books on your desk or paper to lift the monitor up. It's redicoulus. Juts get a proper monitor. Check out the Dell U2414H on special. I think I saw it at 300$ once. Here Amazon, 300$ on special: http://www.amazon.com/Dell-UltraSharp-U2414H-Widescreen-Monitor/dp/B00H3JIGHA

 -> true thin bezel

 -> low input lag

 -> good response time

 -> low back light bleeding

 -> 6-bit IPS panels (so decent colors, great viewing angles)

 -> fully adjustabel stands

 -> Has 2x HDMI, and 1x Display Port.

 -> You can daisy chain a second monitor via Display Port, as it has 1x DisplayPort OUT.

[Dango]

Alright I so this is my first ever build/set-up so please excuse my noobness. I am trying to put together a project where I will build a custom PC and get dual monitors with it. I will be getting a GeForce GTX 970 that has one DVI-I (Dual Link) and one DVI-D (Dual Link). 

PART I:

Can you check and see if what I have below would function correctly together?

Monitor 1: GTX 970's DVI-I (Dual Link) *(OUTPUT)* --> DVI-D (Single Link) *(CORD)* --> Monitor 1's DVI-D (Single Link) *(INPUT)*

Monitor 2: GTX 970's DVI-D (Dual Link) *(OUTPUT)* --> DVI-D (Single Link) *(CORD)* --> Monitor 2's DVI-D (Single Link) *(INPUT)*

PART II:

Now what monitors should I get?

Musts:

* 21.5 inches - 24 inches

* 1920 * 1080

* equal to or less than 5 ms response time

* equal to or greater than 60 Hz

* combined price of both monitors equal to or less than 300 USD

Preferred:

* small bezel

* matte finish

Would the monitors I am currently leaning towards work with what I am trying to accomplish?

Part One. YES!

Part Two. If you want play more than 60Hz VG248QE. If not, find any IPS 8bits or 10bits panel, I have 3 27inch S-IPS(10bits) monitor, they looks AMAZING.

[Dango]

Alright I so this is my first ever build/set-up so please excuse my noobness. I am trying to put together a project where I will build a custom PC and get dual monitors with it. I will be getting a GeForce GTX 970 that has one DVI-I (Dual Link) and one DVI-D (Dual Link). 

PART I:

Can you check and see if what I have below would function correctly together?

Monitor 1: GTX 970's DVI-I (Dual Link) *(OUTPUT)* --> DVI-D (Single Link) *(CORD)* --> Monitor 1's DVI-D (Single Link) *(INPUT)*

Monitor 2: GTX 970's DVI-D (Dual Link) *(OUTPUT)* --> DVI-D (Single Link) *(CORD)* --> Monitor 2's DVI-D (Single Link) *(INPUT)*

PART II:

Now what monitors should I get?

Musts:

* 21.5 inches - 24 inches

* 1920 * 1080

* equal to or less than 5 ms response time

* equal to or greater than 60 Hz

* combined price of both monitors equal to or less than 300 USD

Preferred:

* small bezel

* matte finish

Would the monitors I am currently leaning towards work with what I am trying to accomplish?

Oh, YES the ms on the box doesnt mean anything...

[GoodBytes]

Part One. YES!

Part Two. If you want play more than 60Hz VG248QE. If not, find any IPS 8bits or 10bits panel, I have 3 27inch S-IPS(10bits) monitor, they looks AMAZING.

Yea..but the OP is not going to get a true 8-bit panel with 300$, sadly.

It will have to be a 6-bit IPS panel, which isn't bad per se. It will a bit better to a high-end TN panel, and cost about the same. Making the OP, enjoy the many benefits of an IPS panel.

[Dango]

Yea..but the OP is not going to get a true 8-bit panel with 300$, sadly.

It will have to be a 6-bit IPS panel, which isn't bad per se. It will a bit better to a high-end TN panel, and cost about the same. Making the OP, enjoy the many benefits of an IPS panel.

The 27inch S-IPS 2560X1440 monitor, I bought from amazon. It only course me 339. I bought 3 of them and get $80 discount, witch total just over 900 dollar.

 

This one only course $289.99 AH-IPS panel.

http://www.amazon.com/QNIX-QX2710-LED-Evolution-Multi/dp/B00OIYLBJS/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1414859244&sr=8-7&keywords=27%22+2560X1440 

[mat257]

hi to all. I am new in this site.i wish to ask you one question.

I am going to buy a new 40 inch 4k tv and I want to connect it to my pc. I am wondering whether is possible to replace a connection displayport 1.2 with two cables hdmi 1.4 @ 30hz each. is it possible? I have evga titan sli 2x. will I have the same combination quality / speed as well as displayport? may I rely on a good 4k 60hz images output?

thank you

[GoodBytes]

The 27inch S-IPS 2560X1440 monitor, I bought from amazon. It only course me 339. I bought 3 of them and get $80 discount, witch total just over 900 dollar.

 

This one only course $289.99 AH-IPS panel.

http://www.amazon.com/QNIX-QX2710-LED-Evolution-Multi/dp/B00OIYLBJS/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1414859244&sr=8-7&keywords=27"+2560X1440 

Yea ok, Garbage monitors.

[Dango]

Yea ok, Garbage monitors.

NO, they are not. They use the same panel as other high end monitor. Only drawback is they have some degree of light bleed (even high-end IPS have light bleed). when you turn down the brightness (most likely you will), you wont see them unless black screen.

For $300, it worse the money I think.

PS: Logan use them.

[GoodBytes]

hi to all. I am new in this site.i wish to ask you one question.

I am going to buy a new 40 inch 4k tv and I want to connect it to my pc. I am wondering whether is possible to replace a connection displayport 1.2 with two cables hdmi 1.4 @ 30hz each. is it possible? I have evga titan sli 2x. will I have the same combination quality / speed as well as displayport? may I rely on a good 4k 60hz images output?

thank you

If the TV supports this ability, then you can. Basically what will happen is that the 4K TV will be like 2 separate display (so, 4K cut in half). Windows will see it as 2 display which you will need to extend. The problem is that the 2 display signal won't be in sync. You have 2 problems why that is the case: Consumer GPUs don't feature any sync between displays (but that is usually OK, as the gap isn't really big with a high-end GPU), and same sync story for the TV (or monitor) controller in question. Some TVs/Monitor uses 1 controller to generate each frame of each display signal to merge onto one, in alternative fashion. This creates a large desync. Other uses 2 crappy controllers which does an equally poor job. You do have some that uses 2 powerful controllers and are in sync (but costly). Example: High end, older, 4K laser projectors (what is used in simulator or some movie theater that support 4K or 8K image).

[GoodBytes]

NO, they are not. They use the same panel as other high end monitor. Only drawback is they have some degree of light bleed (even high-end IPS have light bleed). when you turn down the brightness (most likely you will), you wont see them unless black screen.

For $300, it worse the money I think.

PS: Logan use them.

I don't want you to feel bad, but:

Logan knows many thing, but monitor is not his not his fortee (to put is nicely). Sorry.

The bad news:

The monitors uses rejected manufacture panels where instead of trowing them, they sale them at deep discount. Granted same of these manufacture pick and only use the best of the rejects, it's still rejects. These rejects can be anything from 1 or more pixels grid miss formed making 1 or more pixel see the backlight (star effect on black), the monitor doesn't deliver on the specification, and/or performance, too much back light bleeding or some (all depending if it's a pro grade panel or consumer grade, and target price), durability issue or other.

They pick those panels, and slap it in a generic, cheapo enclosure and uses no or cheapo, aged old, replicated, controller (usually Dell pre-2009 controllers (the GUI is identical)) OR some crappy limited controller. From reviews, these monitor has horrible (over 20ms) input lag (25ms in your case), meaning it won't deliver 10-bit colors. And it uses a PWM to drive the backlight, meaning: flickering. Granted not visible to most, but some are sensitive to this.

Finally, glossy. As it a rejected panel, it didn't get the anti-glare treatment on the device.

Here is an in depth monitor review of your QNIX: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/qnix_qx2710.htm

Not to mention: no real warranty, no after sale service, warranty (whatever you have) is filled with conditions to not cover you.

It is true that you can't get a monitor this cheap, and is a great.

[mat257]

If the TV supports this ability, then you can. Basically what will happen is that the 4K TV will be like 2 separate display (so, 4K cut in half). Windows will see it as 2 display which you will need to extend. The problem is that the 2 display signal won't be in sync. You have 2 problems why that is the case: Consumer GPUs don't feature any sync between displays (but that is usually OK, as the gap isn't really big with a high-end GPU), and the TV (or monitor) in question controller. Some uses 1 controller to generate each frame of each display signal, in alternative fashion, other uses 2 crappy controllers which does an equally poor job. And you have some that uses 2 powerful controllers and are in sync (costly).

thanks for explanation. thus is it better to buy a 4k tv with displayport directly?thanks

[GoodBytes]

Yes.