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Peeps overestimate the performance of a GTX1070, yes, it's powerful but for 1440P at 144Hz, it WILL struggle. Now, IF OP had a GTX1070 Ti or GTX 1080  to begin with, then yes, stick with it. A move from GTX 1070 is like a two notch move upward, from GTX 1070 pass GTX1070 Ti/GTX1080 to RTX2080/GTX 1080 Ti performance level, so yeah, 1440P @144Hz is certainly doable easily. So, in my opinion, if you wanna get a 1440P 144Hz monitor (prolly a more expensive Gsync monitor, that's why I'm on AMD cards for Freesync) then the RTX 2080 would tide you over for quite a while.

Hey there, I'm currently unsure what to do with this upgrade and would appreciate some help.

 

I have a 1070 right now and I play on 1080p 144hz. I managed to get myself an EVGA 2080 for $900 CAD pre-tax. using some combos and promotions that I split with some friends(Free PSU and a game). The original price was $1100 pre-tax. I know everyone's going to say a 2080 is overkill for 1080p. I plan on upgrading monitors in a couple years or so, as prices drop a bit...

 

The main reason I want to upgrade my 1070 now is because I already have a friend willing to buy my 1070 for $350 CAD, so at the end I'm getting the 2080 for $750 after tax. But if I wait a couple of years to get a new GPU, it'll probably be around $1100-1200 and I won't be able to sell my 1070 for anywhere near 350. Also, a 1080ti isn't really an option just because all the stores around me daren't restockling any 1080tis at all and I'd rather not buy a used card.

 

So taking all that into account, is it worth it for me to keep this 2080? Or should I keep the 1070 and wait until the next gen GPUs? I know nobody knows but what are the chances that the next gen would end up being that much better than the current generation that it'd be worth waiting for?

 

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That was a bad decision. A few years is a long time in the computer market and the 1070can run 1440p comfortably anyway. At 1080p60 you wont even notice the difference unless youre raytracing (which the 2080 isn’t very capable of 

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Oh I can still return it, they only had a few combos available so I bought it just to be safe. And sorry I should have said that I play 1080p 144hz. So even for this monitor, this wouldn't be worth it? 

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47 minutes ago, heyitstony said:

Oh I can still return it, they only had a few combos available so I bought it just to be safe. And sorry I should have said that I play 1080p 144hz. So even for this monitor, this wouldn't be worth it? 

it's not a bad deal, but if u plan to upgrade to 4k in the future and use that 2080, then as @Froody129 then it's a bad decision, it's better to get the video card when you upgrade the monitor, as new cards might be out by then.

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Let me put a few things straight since I'm In your shoes.. I had a 1070 g1

I recently upgraded my monitor to 1440p 144hz and let me tell u I'd be lucky to be around 80fps at 1440p. 

 

So I like you got a 2080

 

Fortnite for example at max settings at 1440p I get average arou d 140fps 

It goes up into the 200's but also drives below 120fps when massive fights are going on.

 

At 1080p on on my 2080 I get a steady 200ish fps

 

So I'd say if you want to actually utilize a 144hz monitor to its fullest withought lowering settings. KEEP IT! I love mine and with a 144hz monitor u need it.. 

 

Linus did a video recently about 4k gaming where u would actually need two 2080tis to run over 144hz at 4k. And for now I believe my system is pretty much future proof until 4k at 144+fps becomes mainstream 

 

Btw I'm running a 

8700k @5ghz 

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Water cooled rtx2080

 

Just for anyone thinking I'm getting low framerates due to a old computer lol

 

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8 minutes ago, xg32 said:

it's not a bad deal, but if u plan to upgrade to 4k in the future and use that 2080, then as @Froody129 then it's a bad decision, it's better to get the video card when you upgrade the monitor, as new cards might be out by then.

Not planning on getting 4k to be honest, but definitely 1440p 144hz. Probably not for 1-2 years so maybe it would be better to wait...The main reason I'm wanting to go for it now is just because I can get rid of my 1070 for $350.

 

10 minutes ago, LangleyNerd said:

Let me put a few things straight since I'm In your shoes.. I had a 1070 g1

I recently upgraded my monitor to 1440p 144hz and let me tell u I'd be lucky to be around 80fps at 1440p. 

 

So I like you got a 2080

 

Fortnite for example at max settings at 1440p I get average arou d 140fps 

It goes up into the 200's but also drives below 120fps when massive fights are going on.

 

At 1080p on on my 2080 I get a steady 200ish fps

 

So I'd say if you want to actually utilize a 144hz monitor to its fullest withought lowering settings. KEEP IT! I love mine and with a 144hz monitor u need it.. 

 

Linus did a video recently about 4k gaming where u would actually need two 2080tis to run over 144hz at 4k. And for now I believe my system is pretty much future proof until 4k at 144+fps becomes mainstream 

 

Btw I'm running a 

8700k @5ghz 

32gb ddr4 3200mhz 

M.2 Nvme drive

Water cooled rtx2080

 

Just for anyone thinking I'm getting low framerates due to a old computer lol

 

Thanks for your experience, I'm also planning on eventually getting myself a 1440p 144hz so I'd also be in the same situation. I guess it really depends on when I plan on upgrading monitors..

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9 minutes ago, heyitstony said:

Not planning on getting 4k to be honest, but definitely 1440p 144hz. Probably not for 1-2 years so maybe it would be better to wait...The main reason I'm wanting to go for it now is just because I can get rid of my 1070 for $350.

 

Thanks for your experience, I'm also planning on eventually getting myself a 1440p 144hz so I'd also be in the same situation. I guess it really depends on when I plan on upgrading monitors..

it's far from the worst, you still got a 2080 for cheap, max out the games, gonna look shiny.

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Peeps overestimate the performance of a GTX1070, yes, it's powerful but for 1440P at 144Hz, it WILL struggle. Now, IF OP had a GTX1070 Ti or GTX 1080  to begin with, then yes, stick with it. A move from GTX 1070 is like a two notch move upward, from GTX 1070 pass GTX1070 Ti/GTX1080 to RTX2080/GTX 1080 Ti performance level, so yeah, 1440P @144Hz is certainly doable easily. So, in my opinion, if you wanna get a 1440P 144Hz monitor (prolly a more expensive Gsync monitor, that's why I'm on AMD cards for Freesync) then the RTX 2080 would tide you over for quite a while.

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1 hour ago, heyitstony said:

Not planning on getting 4k to be honest, but definitely 1440p 144hz. Probably not for 1-2 years so maybe it would be better to wait...The main reason I'm wanting to go for it now is just because I can get rid of my 1070 for $350.

 

Thanks for your experience, I'm also planning on eventually getting myself a 1440p 144hz so I'd also be in the same situation. I guess it really depends on when I plan on upgrading monitors..

No problem.. it will be years before 4k at a high refresh rate will become feasible for the moderator enthusiasts..

 

Right now even at 1440p with the 2080 I will see frame drops below 144.. 

 

Just for the love of God leave ray tracing off lol.. Otherwise u will be down to the mid 50s

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Keep it.  Think of it this way, The 1070 came out like almost 2.5 years ago a this point and it is still a very relevant card.  Your RTX2080 will be very fine and very relevant for quite a few years.  I think too many people underestimate the usefulness of tech these days and assume that just because a graphics card today won't be able to put out top tier numbers in 2 years that it won't be good any more.  The RTX2080 will be a relevant and useful card for a number of years to come.  There will come a point where you won't be able to run every game at ultra settings, but that's fine.  Who the hell knows where you will be, or what your financial situation will be in two years.  Maybe you'll be able to buy a new monitor in 6 months, you don't know for sure. On top of that, who the hell knows what GPU prices will do in a year, or 18 months.  I think the insanity of mining proved that you cannot predict the future prices of things like that.  

 

You got a good deal by today's financial standards, and you have a great piece of equipment.  

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5 hours ago, heyitstony said:

So taking all that into account, is it worth it for me to keep this 2080? Or should I keep the 1070 and wait until the next gen GPUs? I know nobody knows but what are the chances that the next gen would end up being that much better than the current generation that it'd be worth waiting for?

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3 hours ago, GamerDude said:

Peeps overestimate the performance of a GTX1070, yes, it's powerful but for 1440P at 144Hz, it WILL struggle. Now, IF OP had a GTX1070 Ti or GTX 1080  to begin with, then yes, stick with it. A move from GTX 1070 is like a two notch move upward, from GTX 1070 pass GTX1070 Ti/GTX1080 to RTX2080/GTX 1080 Ti performance level, so yeah, 1440P @144Hz is certainly doable easily. So, in my opinion, if you wanna get a 1440P 144Hz monitor (prolly a more expensive Gsync monitor, that's why I'm on AMD cards for Freesync) then the RTX 2080 would tide you over for quite a while.

I suppose it just depends on what you want out of the system. I'm running a 980ti at 1440p144 and I'm very happy with the performance. It certainly won't max out my refresh rate but imo there's very strong diminishing returns above 90 fps. If you don't want under 144fps then the 2080ti is your best bet but that's not really necessary imo.

 

4 hours ago, heyitstony said:

Not planning on getting 4k to be honest, but definitely 1440p 144hz. Probably not for 1-2 years so maybe it would be better to wait...The main reason I'm wanting to go for it now is just because I can get rid of my 1070 for $350.

 

Thanks for your experience, I'm also planning on eventually getting myself a 1440p 144hz so I'd also be in the same situation. I guess it really depends on when I plan on upgrading monitors..

If you're upgrading to a higher resolution/refresh monitor within a year or something then I'd say keep the card. It's definitely more powerful and if you get a good deal today then you have it secured for when you get your monitor. Just remember that you're buying this PC for your own enjoyment, there's no point in upgrading for higher numbers when it doesn't have that much realistic impact on game performance

 

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Thanks for all the answers. Decided to return it. Going to wait until I buy a 1440p monitor. Appreciate the help :) 

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