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SSD recommendation for older computer?

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12 minutes ago, gryffinwings said:

So the Crucial MX500 has this feature?

yes

 

14 minutes ago, gryffinwings said:

How can you tell what other SSDs have this?

PCPP shows SSD's cache capacity for those that has cache, though not all SSDs with DRAM cache has its capacity displayed.

Need a recommendations for upgrading my current SSD to larger SSD, currently running a Sandisk SSD Plus 120GB, it's a little small for my needs. I already have a 1TB WD Caviar Black hard drive.

 

I feel that the 120 GB is a bit too small. I'm currently using around 75% of my SSDs space.

 

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Dell Precision T3500 - So it's running SATA II ports, no SATA III.

 

I don't feel like I would get any benefit from something like Samsung EVO SSDs.

 

 

Dell Precision T3500 | Intel Xeon X5675 | 8GB DDR3 | EVGA Nvidia GTX 980 SC ACX 2.0 | Sandisk SSD Plus 120GB | 1TB WD Caviar Black | Corsair TX-650 PSU

Dell Optiplex 745 | Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 | 8GB DDR2 | 320GB SE16 7200RPM HDD (Linux Ubuntu)

HP DL360 G7 | Dual Intel Xeon E5645 | 8GB DDR3 REG ECC | HP 500GB HDD |(Build in Progress)

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You'll feel benefit because it's not only read/write speed of single big file but also all other parameters like access time, multiple small files read time etc.

But I agree that EVO for old computer may be too much. Try Goodram CX400 - cheap and good enough.

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6 minutes ago, gryffinwings said:

I don't feel like I would get any benefit from something like Samsung EVO SSDs.

it's not just speed, but latency and durability. 

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:


I'm glad I asked, because I knew there was more to it, but I was not sure what else to be concerned about, one was durability, but wasn't aware of latency, how does latency affect SSD performance?

 

Dell Precision T3500 | Intel Xeon X5675 | 8GB DDR3 | EVGA Nvidia GTX 980 SC ACX 2.0 | Sandisk SSD Plus 120GB | 1TB WD Caviar Black | Corsair TX-650 PSU

Dell Optiplex 745 | Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 | 8GB DDR2 | 320GB SE16 7200RPM HDD (Linux Ubuntu)

HP DL360 G7 | Dual Intel Xeon E5645 | 8GB DDR3 REG ECC | HP 500GB HDD |(Build in Progress)

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2 minutes ago, gryffinwings said:


I'm glad I asked, because I knew there was more to it, but I was not sure what else to be concerned about, one was durability, but wasn't aware of latency, how does latency affect SSD performance?

 

latency = time between system requesting a file and SSD starting file transfer. Proper SSDs have DRAM cache, used to store data on where each file is located in the NAND flash modules. Cheap SSDs lack this file though, instead saving this 'map' in the NAND flash itself. DRAM is faster than NAND, which creates a higher latency. Just like using a map in paper form versus a map in an app in a smartphone with good internet connection.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

latency = time between system requesting a file and SSD starting file transfer. Proper SSDs have DRAM cache, used to store data on where each file is located in the NAND flash modules. Cheap SSDs lack this file though, instead saving this 'map' in the NAND flash itself. DRAM is faster than NAND, which creates a higher latency. Just like using a map in paper form versus a map in an app in a smartphone with good internet connection.

 

So this is basically how some NAS storage systems work using tons of RAM to map HDD arrays, makes since. So the Crucial MX500 has this feature? How can you tell what other SSDs have this?

Dell Precision T3500 | Intel Xeon X5675 | 8GB DDR3 | EVGA Nvidia GTX 980 SC ACX 2.0 | Sandisk SSD Plus 120GB | 1TB WD Caviar Black | Corsair TX-650 PSU

Dell Optiplex 745 | Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 | 8GB DDR2 | 320GB SE16 7200RPM HDD (Linux Ubuntu)

HP DL360 G7 | Dual Intel Xeon E5645 | 8GB DDR3 REG ECC | HP 500GB HDD |(Build in Progress)

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12 minutes ago, gryffinwings said:

So the Crucial MX500 has this feature?

yes

 

14 minutes ago, gryffinwings said:

How can you tell what other SSDs have this?

PCPP shows SSD's cache capacity for those that has cache, though not all SSDs with DRAM cache has its capacity displayed.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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On 11/23/2018 at 4:57 PM, Jurrunio said:

yes

 

PCPP shows SSD's cache capacity for those that has cache, though not all SSDs with DRAM cache has its capacity displayed.

Thank you for the assistance, I actually ended up buying the Crucial MX500 500GB version, the price difference wasn't that much to me and having more space makes more sense to me.

Dell Precision T3500 | Intel Xeon X5675 | 8GB DDR3 | EVGA Nvidia GTX 980 SC ACX 2.0 | Sandisk SSD Plus 120GB | 1TB WD Caviar Black | Corsair TX-650 PSU

Dell Optiplex 745 | Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 | 8GB DDR2 | 320GB SE16 7200RPM HDD (Linux Ubuntu)

HP DL360 G7 | Dual Intel Xeon E5645 | 8GB DDR3 REG ECC | HP 500GB HDD |(Build in Progress)

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