Upgrading to Ryzen

[cerebralhunter]

Hi Guys n Girls 

 

i new to the forum but not to the LTT team 

 

atm im running a dated I5 4440, 8gb 1600 ram, gtx 1060, on a random gigabyte mobo 

with the sales in the uk and problerly the world now in force i think its time for an upgrade and really looking Bang for bucks approach 

 

i'm currently looking to build a Ryzen 5 2600 pc and oc it 

 

but there are now so many mobos out there i'm getting confused on which to buy in my basket atm i have the 

R5

MSI X470 CARBON 

16G 3200 RAM

Corsair H110I AIO

 

totaling £560 top of my budget 

 

I believe i have an ample PSW and m.2/ssd/hdd are covered 

 

from all of your combined experience are the X470 boards worth it for 2nd gen Ryzen or go cheaper to an X370 and flash the bios or can i get a stable cool oc on a B450 board 

 

regards 

 

Matt 

 

P.S is the Store MI on the X470 boards worth it as well?

 

[cerebralhunter]

ps i'm a gamer not really into streaming on twitch etc but the I5 8600k and the boards to go with is smash my budget 

[LukeSavenije]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor	£174.99 @ Aria PC
CPU Cooler	be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler	£67.69 @ More Computers
Motherboard	ASRock - Fatal1ty X470 Gaming K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard	£151.94 @ More Computers
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	£147.06 @ Amazon UK
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£541.68
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-21 12:22 GMT+0000

this would be my recommendation for overclocking. A solid overclocking mobo as the pro carbon's vrm's can get hot under heavy load. a 1700x because it's cheaper and has 2 more cores. a beefy air cooler because I like air coolers more, and some good looking rgb ram from Corsair. You could add a cx750m for around 60 bucks if you need a new, tier 3 psu for your build

[Ashleyyyy]

14 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

a beefy air cooler because I like air coolers more

because that makes total sense to recommend for that reason

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, firelighter487 said:

because that makes total sense to recommend for that reason

It's not meant to be a reason. you want a reason? leaks. And these days they peform around the same. good enough?

[Brent744]

I own a R5 2600 and I had no problem overclocking to 4.1 GHz on a B350 board, I typically keep it at 4.0 on all cores to keep temps nice and cool. The x470 board is a great choice as it will have more features and support higher ram frequencies. For the record my Intel i5 7600k at stock speed still noticeably outperforms my overclocked Ryzen, likely due to intel's single core performance.

[Ashleyyyy]

1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

It's not meant to be a reason. you want a reason? leaks. And these days they peform around the same. good enough?

pretty much yeah  

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, Brent744 said:

I own a R5 2600 and I had no problem overclocking to 4.1 GHz on a B350 board, I typically keep it at 4.0 on all cores to keep temps nice and cool. The x470 board is a great choice as it will have more features and support higher ram frequencies. For the record my Intel i5 7600k at stock speed still noticeably outperforms my overclocked Ryzen, likely due to intel's single core performance.

agree, disagree. in some games intel will perform way better because of using less cores/treads. but in most modern aaa games your 2600 will probebly win.

[Brent744]

2 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

agree, disagree. in some games intel will perform way better because of using less cores/treads. but in most modern aaa games your 2600 will probebly win.

I tested this thoroughly with PUBG, Battlefield 1, Total War: Warhammer, Arma 3 and Post Scriptim (although PS still has some optimization it needs to complete). The 7600k outperformed the R5 in all of these titles however, The R5 was quite close in BF1. I've read on a lot of threads that Ryzen really prefers higher ram frequencies so that, along with the board could be holding it back. During my testing the R5 was clocked at 4.0 GHz and I had both cpu's paired with 2400MHz RAM and the GTX 1060.

[Princess Luna]

A Ryzen 5 2600 + b450 and high frequency memory is the way to go, don't get an aftermarket cooler the stock one is good enough.

 

This way you'll make things be worth their value, the GTX 1060 is not going to need more than this, in fact you could get away getting a second hand i7 4770 / i7 4790 and another 8gb of DDR3 memory so don't do pointless expenses like a 100+ dollars AiO.

[Quadriplegic]

Eh, hard to say. Personally, I'd go for X370 board. It's almost guaranteed that new boards will have recent enough BIOS, unless they have been sitting in the warehouse for most of this year. 

At the price range of X470 Gaming Pro Carbon you can get something like X370 C6H, Taichi, Gaming K7. All of them are better boards, unless StoreMi is a must-have.

But keep in mind that I'm saying that because of upcoming Zen 2 processors.

[cerebralhunter]

yeah i was looking at the C6H thought it would be a massive over kill 

 

is Store MI worth it anyone use it ?

 

[LukeSavenije]

50 minutes ago, cerebralhunter said:

yeah i was looking at the C6H thought it would be a massive over kill 

 

is Store MI worth it anyone use it ?

 

It's kind of a big bug at the moment

[i_build_nanosuits]

Next gen Zen is about to come out and it looks really promising...just saying.

[cerebralhunter]

next gen is always around the corner :P