Recommendations for a Ryzen build for just Overwatch and some Android Studio

[AlfredoBejarano]

I want to migrate from an old i5 4440 with 960 Strix 4GB to a Ryzen build, budget is not a problem, im recyclyng two pieces from my old build:

• CoolerMaster Lite 120 AIO water cooler (just a month use)
• EVGA 600B 80+ Bronze power supply (brand new)

 even though, there are some constraints:

• The build has to be as small as possible, I drive Suzuki Swift Sport 2017, it's trunk is way too small for a mid tower chasis, it wont fit.
• Im not planning in performing overclocking or some fancy stuff.
• Even though I have other games in my steam library, I only play Overwatch sometimes Diablo III or Resident Evil Revelations / 5, I barely touch any other of my games (like rise of the tomb raider), so something like a GTX 1080 TI is not something im interested as right now.
• I work in some Android Projects and I've heard Ryzen is better in multi-threading tasks than Intel, thats why Im looking for a Ryzen CPU (and I hate intel CPU heatsink mounts)
• I already have a 2TB HDD
• I already have gaming peripherals, a Logitech Atlas G410 Keyboard and a Logitech G403 mouse and an LG 1080p monitor

I really want a system that can play overwatch right now and really nothing else in the smallest form factor possible, again, budget is not an issue here.

this is what I came up with:

• Ryzen 3 2200G
• MB Gigabyte A320M S2H
• 2x ADATA 8GB 2133 Mhz DDR Ram
• CoolerMaster MasterBoox Q300L Chasis
• CoolerMaster Lite 120 AIO water cooler
• EVGA 600B 80+ Bronze power supply
• Toshiba 7.5k RPM 2TB HDD

 

My plan here is if tomorrow I want some small GPU boost I can slap a Rx 570 and call it a day, but again, Im looking for some recommendations for my (specifically annoying) use case.

Thanks

[Slottr]

Make sure that your memory is 2933 or 3000 mhz at least for Ryzen. Significant performance boost from slow ram to 3000.

[AlfredoBejarano]

2 minutes ago, Slottr said:

Make sure that your memory is 2933 or 3000 mhz at least for Ryzen. Significant performance boost from slow ram to 3000.

thanks for the advice!

[Fasauceome]

24 minutes ago, AlfredoBejarano said:

budget is not a problem

Yet your build is super cheap and extremely bad

 

25 minutes ago, AlfredoBejarano said:

• Ryzen 3 2200G
• MB Gigabyte A320M S2H
• 2x ADATA 8GB 2133 Mhz DDR Ram
• CoolerMaster MasterBoox Q300L Chasis
• CoolerMaster Lite 120 AIO water cooler
• EVGA 600B 80+ Bronze power supply
• Toshiba 7.5k RPM 2TB HDD

No SSD, cheapest AM4 motherboard type (which is awful), really slow ram, pretty large micro ATX case, cheap power supply.

 

What is your actual budget in your regional currency? At this price point you're better off getting an i7 4770 off eBay instead of putting up with the cheapest Ryzen has to offer.

[r2724r16]

Buy a used HP Z workstation with at least a quad core CPU and throw in a used GTX 970 and an SSD.

[Fasauceome]

59 minutes ago, r2724r16 said:

Buy a used HP Z workstation with at least a quad core CPU and throw in a used GTX 970 and an SSD.

Wouldn't really justify the price increase over OP's current setup

[Queen Chrysalis]

1 hour ago, fasauceome said:

Yet your build is super cheap and extremely bad

 

No SSD, cheapest AM4 motherboard type (which is awful), really slow ram, pretty large micro ATX case, cheap power supply.

 

What is your actual budget in your regional currency? At this price point you're better off getting an i7 4770 off eBay instead of putting up with the cheapest Ryzen has to offer.

I have that mobo on my 2400g build and its fine.  No need to OC when raven ridge run near their peaks stock.  Also, G. Skill Aegis DDR4 3000 8GB dimms are like $50, so IDK why OP wants the bullshit he listed.  

[AlfredoBejarano]

1 hour ago, fasauceome said:

Yet your build is super cheap and extremely bad

 

No SSD, cheapest AM4 motherboard type (which is awful), really slow ram, pretty large micro ATX case, cheap power supply.

 

What is your actual budget in your regional currency? At this price point you're better off getting an i7 4770 off eBay instead of putting up with the cheapest Ryzen has to offer.

Im coming from a 4th gen Intel build and finding pieces for that kind of old hardware is a nightmare, I want to migrate to Ryzen and specifically no intel, I dont want a Intel CPU in my build, is a mess to deal with those CPU mounting brackets.

My budget is around $3000 USD dollars, the components are cheap because I really want to play Overwatch, like, right now, is like a drug for me so I want a moder build that I can upgrade in the near future, also, I don't care about overkill stuff for OW like overclocking or dual GTX 1080s setup

[Fasauceome]

9 minutes ago, AlfredoBejarano said:

is a mess to deal with those CPU mounting brackets.

it's almost identical to Ryzen.

 

9 minutes ago, AlfredoBejarano said:

My budget is around $3000 USD dollars

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor	$264.90 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler	NZXT - Kraken M22 Liquid CPU Cooler	$82.58 @ Newegg
Motherboard	Biostar - X470GTN Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard	$126.97 @ Newegg
Memory	G.Skill - Trident Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$139.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Samsung - 860 Evo 250 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$67.97 @ Amazon
Storage	Samsung - 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$147.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 8 GB Founders Edition Video Card
Case	Silverstone - Sugo SG13B Mini ITX Tower Case	$50.50 @ B&H
Power Supply	Corsair - SF 600 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply	$149.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1030.89
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-13 18:00 EST-0500

 

super small, and it'll be just as "instantly gratifying" as the build you linked. The only price that isn't in there is the FE graphics card, which for some reason isn't in PCPartPicker, but I assure you a blower card is preferable for this case. You can also get a 1080 TI since it fits in the budget.

[AlfredoBejarano]

Just now, fasauceome said:

it's almost identical to Ryzen.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor	$264.90 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler	NZXT - Kraken M22 Liquid CPU Cooler	$82.58 @ Newegg
Motherboard	Biostar - X470GTN Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard	$126.97 @ Newegg
Memory	G.Skill - Trident Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$139.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Samsung - 860 Evo 250 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$67.97 @ Amazon
Storage	Samsung - 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$147.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 8 GB Founders Edition Video Card
Case	Silverstone - Sugo SG13B Mini ITX Tower Case	$50.50 @ B&H
Power Supply	Corsair - SF 600 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply	$149.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1030.89
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-13 18:00 EST-0500

 

super small, and it'll be just as "instantly gratifying" as the build you linked. The only price that isn't in there is the FE graphics card, which for some reason isn't in PCPartPicker, but I assure you a blower card is preferable for this case.

I have some opinions in this recommended build

• a GTX 1080 for just Overwatch? that's an overkill! 
• X470!? - Im not planning in doing overclocking, im not even remotely interested on it, sounds like an overkill but Im sold in the mini ITX form factor
• Ryzen 7 doesn't sound that bad tho, Android Studio is expensive in the CPU and RAM side
• Im not sure if G.Skill memory is available in my region (México), and if it is, it would be for double the price, even though, you are the second person in recommending 3000+ Mhz on RAM, so I'll take the advice here.
• Im adding an SSD later, something around 240 GB is not that necessary for me right now (and those are super cheap here).
• I already have a PSU and a CPU cooler

Even though I have a 3000 USD budget (I can stretch it to 5000 USD) that doesn't mean I want to use all the money, another solution I have found is buying an Acer Predator Triton 700 with the GTX 1060 configuration (here in Mx is around 1800 USD brand new).

[Fasauceome]

5 minutes ago, AlfredoBejarano said:

Im not sure if G.Skill memory is available in my region (México)

You listed your budget in USD, they have PCPartPicker sites for many different countries.

6 minutes ago, AlfredoBejarano said:

a GTX 1080 for just Overwatch? that's an overkill! 

your budget is $3000, that's overkill.

6 minutes ago, AlfredoBejarano said:

X470!? - Im not planning in doing overclocking, im not even remotely interested on it, sounds like an overkill but Im sold in the mini ITX form factor

You could do B450.

 

6 minutes ago, AlfredoBejarano said:

Im adding an SSD later, something around 240 GB is not that necessary for me right now (and those are super cheap here).

SSD later is more of a headache than HDD later, trust me. SSD now, hard drive when you need it. (or, with your enormous budget, buy both.

 

7 minutes ago, AlfredoBejarano said:

I already have a PSU and a CPU cooler

Those will with with the build I listed

 

so here's a slight revision:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor	$264.90 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler	NZXT - Kraken M22 Liquid CPU Cooler	Purchased For $0.00
Motherboard	Biostar - X470GTN Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard	$126.97 @ Newegg
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$134.89 @ OutletPC
Storage	Samsung - 860 Evo 250 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$67.97 @ Amazon
Storage	Samsung - 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$147.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 8 GB Founders Edition Video Card
Case	Silverstone - Sugo SG13B Mini ITX Tower Case	$50.50 @ B&H
Power Supply	Corsair - SF 600 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply	Purchased For $0.00
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$793.22
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-13 18:20 EST-0500

I still highly recommend the X470 board because it has many good features, and even if you don't plan to overclock, an A320 motherboard will be crap, so X470 is both very high end and will allow use of XFR to automatically improve CPU performance.

 

I also use the space efficiency of SSDs to work well inside the case, because a full size hard drive can be annoying with the case I selected. You are afforded a nice fast SSD for boot drive and a very large one for mass storage, both very physically small.

[AlfredoBejarano]

14 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

your budget is $3000, that's overkill.

I know it is an overkill for overwatch, again, thats why I said, budget is not a problem.

 

14 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

Im adding an SSD later, something around 240 GB is not that necessary for me right now (and those are super cheap here).

14 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

SSD for boot drive and a very large one for mass storage, both very physically small.

I already have a 2TB HDD with my windows installation and games and Im way too lazy to reinstall everything again for just an SSD that I can buy when I have the will (or lack of laziness) to do so, my PC used to have a 128 GB SSD and the 2TB HDD.
 

14 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

will allow use of XFR to automatically improve CPU performance.

What the fog is XFR? Is like TurboBoost?

if it improves CPU performance I want to know more...

The Ram sounds nice, I can get it easily

No GTX 1080, its an overkill for just sniping my teammates to full health


 

[Fasauceome]

4 minutes ago, AlfredoBejarano said:

I already have a 2TB HDD with my windows installation and games and Im way too lazy to reinstall everything again for just an SSD that I can buy when I have the will (or lack of laziness) to do so, my PC used to have a 128 GB SSD and the 2TB HDD.

Oh OK, then just remove my drive suggestions from the parts list. (or clone your drive to a 2TB SSD for a good speed boost)

5 minutes ago, AlfredoBejarano said:

What the fog is XFR? Is like TurboBoost?

if it improves CPU performance I want to know more...

It is a turbo boost, but it stands for Extended Frequency Range, which will add extra turbo based on if the CPU has enough power to draw and is kept cool enough. It is not available on an A series board, which is the only non-overclocking board (and is also much worse for a number of reasons)

6 minutes ago, AlfredoBejarano said:

No GTX 1080, its an overkill for just sniping my teammates to full health

I use a 1070 for overwatch so then I recommend a founders edition to get max details all the time at 60 fps.

[AlfredoBejarano]

3 hours ago, fasauceome said:

Oh OK, then just remove my drive suggestions from the parts list. (or clone your drive to a 2TB SSD for a good speed boost)

It is a turbo boost, but it stands for Extended Frequency Range, which will add extra turbo based on if the CPU has enough power to draw and is kept cool enough. It is not available on an A series board, which is the only non-overclocking board (and is also much worse for a number of reasons)

I use a 1070 for overwatch so then I recommend a founders edition to get max details all the time at 60 fps.

I don't recall overwatch being that demanding, I used to play with a 960 STRIX 4GB 1080@60 all the time with an ultra / epic hybrid preset, sometimes it even spiked to 90 fps in low action moments, it never dropped from 60

[Fasauceome]

19 minutes ago, AlfredoBejarano said:

I don't recall overwatch being that demanding, I used to play with a 960 STRIX 4GB 1080@60 all the time with an ultra / epic hybrid preset, sometimes it even spiked to 90 fps in low action moments, it never dropped from 60

It's entirely up to you, I just tried to fill out your budget.