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ROG RYUJIN 360 VRMs effect?

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Maybe a "Sh!t Manufacturers Say" video could be done on this. Seems like it might actually work tho, which would still be fine for the video.

 

VRMs end up as a air deadzone in many cases, with many coolers, so a little directed airflow could go a long way.

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https://www.asus.com/Cooling/ROG-RYUJIN-360/overview/
on the ROG RYUJIN 360..

looks like its out because i have seen some reviews on youtube...

did anyone tested the cooling effect on the VRMs? 
Like with a heat camera...
i thing its a good idea for a video...

(didn't know where should i have post that)
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It does nothing to VRM temperature because it doesnt blow any air to the VRM heatsink.

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4 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

It does nothing to VRM temperature because it doesnt blow any air to the VRM heatsink.

Yes it does... That's literally one of the selling points for this AIO.

 

 

@NaorG I haven't seen anything yet... 

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well, it is just a little fan blowing some more air onto the area. i bet you would se ebetter results with a down-blowing air cooler.

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8 minutes ago, Velcade said:

Yes it does... That's literally one of the selling points for this AIO.

It's nothing compared to directly strapping a fan blowing air towards the VRMs. That small fan is not worth taking into account. The way it works is just like the blower coolers on GPUs, only a lot smaller. Blowers arent known for being effective either.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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6 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

It's nothing compared to directly strapping a fan blowing air towards the VRMs. That small fan is not worth taking into account.

I assume you have data on this cooler to back up your claims.  Let's see it, after all that's OPs question

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guys... listen to the questions... i just wanna know the temps.... not whats better...
i could have guessed that the bigger the better but to my deck pc its not aesthetically pleasing.
i wanna have the ROG RYUJIN 360 because its pretty but it would be nice to know the effects.

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Maybe a "Sh!t Manufacturers Say" video could be done on this. Seems like it might actually work tho, which would still be fine for the video.

 

VRMs end up as a air deadzone in many cases, with many coolers, so a little directed airflow could go a long way.

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3 minutes ago, NaorG said:

guys... listen to the questions... i just wanna know the temps.... not whats better...
i could have guessed that the bigger the better but to my deck pc its not aesthetically pleasing.
i wanna have the ROG RYUJIN 360 because its pretty but it would be nice to know the effects

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https://tech4gamers.com/asus-rog-ryujin-360-cpu-liquid-cooler-review/

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Embedded Fan Thermal Results

As mentioned above this cooler features a 60mm fan installed inside the pump housing. Its main function is to provide fresh air to the near-socket components like VRM/M.2 to keep them cool. Asus in-house testing is showing a difference of up to 20°C using this fan. To test this fan, I set up three thermal probes around the CPU socket, particularly on the VRM/MOSFETs. Monitoring was done through Reeven Polariz fan controller which also allows reading the thermal sensors. Testing was done with the CPU overclocked to the 4.3GHz using 1.350V. A stress test of 1 hour was run with this fan powered off followed by a 1 hour of idle time and last stress test with this fan ramped up to its full speed. Average of the three readings was used for each test. This fan brought the temperatures down by 14.5°C which is impressive. The actual temperature reduction would vary depending upon the CPU, motherboard etc.

 

Compared to how directly strapping fans though it's clearly inferior.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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This fan brought the temperatures down by 14.5°C which is impressive.

well well well...

 

3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Compared to how directly strapping fans though it's clearly inferior.

Compared to how directly strapping a leaf blower to the system a directly strapped fan is clearly inferior.

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3 minutes ago, Velcade said:

Compared to how directly strapping a leaf blower to the system a directly strapped fan is clearly inferior.

leaf blower is much louder

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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I actually really like the thought of this lol. just for the oled screen, but on the other hand, i could probably build a junky custom loop for the same price as this aio

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Arctic Cooling used to have a CPU cooler with a small fan at the based of the heatsink, where it cools the VRMS. Old Asus boards used to come with VRM blower fans, that you attach to the heatstinks. But they said to use it only when watercooling.

 

 

 

 

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