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[Unkindness]

Hello everyone!

I'm in the planning stages of building my first machine and I'm so confused by GPU I need some help badly.

I'm looking to future proof a little as I'm looking to build something that I'll get a few years out of by buying the best I can now and little upgrades until it runs outta steam.

So RTX is the daddy now but since I'm starting at the bottom, I can't justify one at current prices. I have a connection who's getting some excellent deals on a lot of the important stuff including GPU. I can have a 1060 or 1070 GTX Strix 06G Gaming for decent money but I am wondering if I could put a GTX 1050 and hold on for a year or so and upgrade to the RTX?

Build will have :

i9 9900k

32mb DDR4

I understand I'll be holding back the i9 but I'll be running the system on a 1080 60 hertz tv for about the same time as I'll be saving for the RTX so is there a point in putting in a mega power card if it's only on a tv like that?

Cheers

[TheDankKoosh]

Just now, Unkindness said:

Hello everyone!

I'm in the planning stages of building my first machine and I'm so confused by GPU I need some help badly.

I'm looking to future proof a little as I'm looking to build something that I'll get a few years out of by buying the best I can now and junior upgrades until it runs outta steam.

So RTX is the daddy now but since I'm starting at the bottom, I can't justify one at current prices. I have a connection who's getting some excellent deals on a lot of the important stuff including GPU. I can have a 1060 or 1070 GTX Strix 06G Gaming for decent money but I am wondering if I could put a GTX 1050 and hold on for a year or so and upgrade to the RTX?

Build will have :

i9 9900k

32mb DDR4

I understand I'll be holding back the i9 but I'll be running the system on a 1080 60 hertz tv for about the same time as I'll be saving for the RTX so is there a point in putting in a mega power card if it's only on a tv like that?

Cheers

I wouldn't bother, just get either a 1060 or 1070 and wait out a couple of years until something much better for the price comes out.

[Spotty]

10 minutes ago, Unkindness said:

Build will have :

i9 9900k

32mb DDR4

I understand I'll be holding back the i9 but I'll be running the system on a 1080 60 hertz tv for about the same time as I'll be saving for the RTX so is there a point in putting in a mega power card if it's only on a tv like that?

Why are you building a system with a 9900k and 32GB DDR4? Is it just for gaming? At 1080p 60hz?

The 9900K + Mobo is going to cost $750+. You'll need to spend $100 on a cooler that can adequately cool the 9900k. You're looking at about $850+ not including the cost of RAM, PSU, Case, SSD, HDD, Graphics card...

Instead, buy a Ryzen 2600 + 16GB of RAM + RX 580 8GB/GTX1060 6GB and save the rest of the money.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor	$159.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard	ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$79.61 @ OutletPC
Memory	G.Skill - Ripjaws V 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$129.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Samsung - 860 Evo 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$86.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Western Digital - Blue 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive	$56.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card	Gigabyte - Radeon RX 580 8GB Gaming 8G Video Card	$224.98 @ Newegg
Case	NZXT - H500 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case	$66.30 @ Amazon
Power Supply	EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	$65.98 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$910.63
	Mail-in rebates	-$40.00
	Total	$870.63
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-31 03:40 EDT-0400

 

[GoldenLag]

if you are running it on a 60hz and maybe is planning on doing 4K 

 

get a 2700x now and 16GB of Ram to be able to pick up the 2080ti now. 

 

get another set of Ramsticks later on. its the much better option.

[Settlerteo]

2 hours ago, Unkindness said:

Hello everyone!

 

So RTX is the daddy now but since I'm starting at the bottom, I can't justify one at current prices. I have a connection who's getting some excellent deals on a lot of the important stuff including GPU. I can have a 1060 or 1070 GTX Strix 06G Gaming for decent money but I am wondering if I could put a GTX 1050 and hold on for a year or so and upgrade to the RTX?

Build will have :

i9 9900k

32mb DDR4

Pairing an i9 with a gtx 1050 would be very odd. In my opinion it would be better to get a used card(like a 780ti/980/980ti/r9 390x/r9 nano,r9 fury) and wait till prices go lower for an RTX card or probably a new Vega card, as i myself wait for.

[LOLitsNCIX]

My guy just get 1080 or 1080Ti and don't even go for RTX. Ray Tracing isn't even enabled yet, and the performance gains of today are so minimal to the 1000 series, the price tag can't be justified. Maybe the price will be halfway worth it once Ray Tracing is enabled, but I doubt the prices will come down for a long time. Stick with 1000 series cards for now. 

 

 

Ciao!

[Mr alex]

4 hours ago, Unkindness said:

 

32mb DDR4

 

....oh

[Unkindness]

5 hours ago, Spotty said:

Why are you building a system with a 9900k and 32GB DDR4? Is it just for gaming? At 1080p 60hz?

The 9900K + Mobo is going to cost $750+. You'll need to spend $100 on a cooler that can adequately cool the 9900k. You're looking at about $850+ not including the cost of RAM, PSU, Case, SSD, HDD, Graphics card..

I'm getting a great deal on the parts. Can't really talk about it but all I can say on prices is that for that $850 i can have the CPU, case, psu and cooler

[Spotty]

3 minutes ago, Unkindness said:

I'm getting a great deal on the parts. Can't really talk about it but all I can say on prices is that for that $850 i can have the CPU, case, psu and cooler 

That doesn't sound like much of a deal...

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor  ($579.99 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($84.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT - H500 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($66.24 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($75.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $807.10
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-31 09:45 EDT-0400

 

Also doesn't explain why you would be getting 32GB of RAM.

[Unkindness]

1 hour ago, Mr alex said:

....oh

Holy mis-type, Batman!

[Unkindness]

2 minutes ago, Spotty said:

That doesn't sound like much of a deal...

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor  ($579.99 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($84.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT - H500 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($66.24 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($75.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $807.10
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-31 09:45 EDT-0400

 

Also doesn't explain why you would be getting 32GB of RAM.

Like i said, can't talk about it too much about the computing parts but I am getting a better deal compared to what you are quoting there.

 

Parts so far that I'm waiting to get my local parts shop are Seasonic Focus 650w Plus Platinum, Noctua NH-D15 or D15S Or Alpenföhn Olymp, Fractual Define C or Meshify C and 3x Noctua Redux 120mm NF-P12. Going local because I can buy on tick.

[Spotty]

9 minutes ago, Unkindness said:

Like i said, can't talk about it too much about the computing parts but I am getting a better deal compared to what you are quoting there.

 

Parts so far that I'm waiting to get my local parts shop are Seasonic Focus 650w Plus Platinum, Noctua NH-D15 or D15S Or Alpenföhn Olymp, Fractual Define C or Meshify C and 3x Noctua Redux 120mm NF-P12. Going local because I can buy on tick.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor  ($579.99 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($84.35 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C TG ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.49 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Platinum 650W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Noctua - NF-P12 redux-1700 PWM 70.8 CFM  120mm Fan  ($13.90 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Noctua - NF-P12 redux-1700 PWM 70.8 CFM  120mm Fan  ($13.90 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Noctua - NF-P12 redux-1700 PWM 70.8 CFM  120mm Fan  ($13.90 @ Amazon)
Total: $885.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-31 10:08 EDT-0400

 

Even assuming the 3x Noctua NF-P12s are included in your $850 price, that still isn't that great of a deal, certainly not to the point that you would be needing be hush hush about it acting like it has fallen off the back of a truck. Do your prices include tax or do you still have to pay tax on top of that $850?
You could get the full Ryzen 2600 + RX 580 system I suggested earlier for $850 which will be perfectly fine for gaming at 1080p.

[Unkindness]

6 minutes ago, Spotty said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor  ($579.99 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($84.35 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C TG ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.49 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Platinum 650W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Noctua - NF-P12 redux-1700 PWM 70.8 CFM  120mm Fan  ($13.90 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Noctua - NF-P12 redux-1700 PWM 70.8 CFM  120mm Fan  ($13.90 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Noctua - NF-P12 redux-1700 PWM 70.8 CFM  120mm Fan  ($13.90 @ Amazon)
Total: $885.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-31 10:08 EDT-0400

 

Even assuming the 3x Noctua NF-P12s are included in your $850 price, that still isn't that great of a deal. Do your prices include tax or do you still have to pay tax on top of that $850?
You could get the full Ryzen 2600 + RX 580 system I suggested earlier for $850 which will be perfectly fine for gaming at 1080p.

Tax and shipping coz I'm importing to Ireland so bang on 21-24% on tax plus a couple hundred delivery from the states. Try the PC Part Picker for UK or Germany and you'll get a better idea what prices are here 

Absolutely no interest in changing CPU or any other part than GPU because im comfortable with the deals I'm getting plus I can pay on a tab for those parts.

[LOLitsNCIX]

Unkindness, if you could tell us why you are building your computer, we might be able to help you out more. It sounds like you are going to game, but we aren't sure. Also, these deals aren't really that good, with or without tax. I'm also not sure why you are trying to use a GTX 1050 with an i9, not even a 1050Ti. I personally would recommend to just get a 1070Ti, 1080, or 1080Ti and just skip RTX overall. RTX is not going to have a price drop for a long time, and RTX is only marginally better than the 1000 series. 

 

TL;DR Ditch the i9 and RTX. Get an i5 or i7 (Or Ryzen 5 or 7), which gives you the option of a cheaper motherboard, and a 1070-1080Ti (any of those 4 cards), or an AMD equivalent.

[Spotty]

If you're absolutely set on the 9900k, then pair it with a GTX 1080 Ti or RTX 2080 Ti. Grab a 1440p 144hz monitor. Anything less will just be a waste of the i9 9900k.

 

Go with 16GB of DDR4 instead of 32GB DDR4 to save some cost to put towards the GPU/monitor, as games won't take advantage of more than 16GB of RAM. Unless you're doing tasks other than gaming, like 3D rendering?

RAM prices are expected to drop over the next few months (hopefully), so if for whatever reason you feel 16GB isn't enough once you're using your system, it will be an easy thing to upgrade later down the line if you choose to do so. For now though you'd be better off investing that money elsewhere in the system, such as a better GPU.

[Unkindness]

51 minutes ago, LOLitsNCIX said:

Unkindness, if you could tell us why you are building your computer, we might be able to help you out more. It sounds like you are going to game, but we aren't sure. Also, these deals aren't really that good, with or without tax. I'm also not sure why you are trying to use a GTX 1050 with an i9, not even a 1050Ti. I personally would recommend to just get a 1070Ti, 1080, or 1080Ti and just skip RTX overall. RTX is not going to have a price drop for a long time, and RTX is only marginally better than the 1000 series. 

 

TL;DR Ditch the i9 and RTX. Get an i5 or i7 (Or Ryzen 5 or 7), which gives you the option of a cheaper motherboard, and a 1070-1080Ti (any of those 4 cards), or an AMD equivalent.

Machine to be used for gaming, watching tv (mainly sport), media editing and production and just about everything a computer can be used for.

[Unkindness]

49 minutes ago, Spotty said:

If you're absolutely set on the 9900k, then pair it with a GTX 1080 Ti or RTX 2080 Ti. Grab a 1440p 144hz monitor. Anything less will just be a waste of the i9 9900k.

 

Go with 16GB of DDR4 instead of 32GB DDR4 to save some cost to put towards the GPU/monitor, as games won't take advantage of more than 16GB of RAM. Unless you're doing tasks other than gaming, like 3D rendering?

RAM prices are expected to drop over the next few months (hopefully), so if for whatever reason you feel 16GB isn't enough once you're using your system, it will be an easy thing to upgrade later down the line if you choose to do so. For now though you'd be better off investing that money elsewhere in the system, such as a better GPU.

Savage! Cheers for the input.

[LOLitsNCIX]

 

5 minutes ago, Unkindness said:

Machine to be used for gaming, watching tv (mainly sport), media editing and production and just about everything a computer can be used for.

 

Even if you are going to be using this computer for "just about everything a computer can be used for", I have a computer that does all of this and only has a low-end i5. I can send you the specs if you'd like. An i9 is seriously overpowered for this work, especially being paired with only a GTX 1050 as you suggested. Don't get an RTX card in the future, but instead just get a GTX card now. The 1000 series is more than enough for anything you would need today and is going to be plenty in the future as well. 

 

My Recommended Parts List:

i9 9900k (since you are so set on it)

16GB DDR4

GTX 1080 (Or AMD Equivalent)

And a PSU, Motherboard, Case, Fans, and storage of your choice

[Unkindness]

13 minutes ago, LOLitsNCIX said:

 

Even if you are going to be using this computer for "just about everything a computer can be used for", I have a computer that does all of this and only has a low-end i5. I can send you the specs if you'd like. An i9 is seriously overpowered for this work, especially being paired with only a GTX 1050 as you suggested. Don't get an RTX card in the future, but instead just get a GTX card now. The 1000 series is more than enough for anything you would need today and is going to be plenty in the future as well. 

 

My Recommended Parts List:

i9 9900k (since you are so set on it)

16GB DDR4

GTX 1080 (Or AMD Equivalent)

And a PSU, Motherboard, Case, Fans, and storage of your choice

Perfect. Thank your help buddy!