Need help !!! 70 simulators - 1 PC

[TunaL]

Hi guys,

My boss has ordered me to build a new PC that can run 70 simulators at the same time... Can anybody help me build a specific configuration (6500-7500$), plz ?

 

[Fasauceome]

what simulators? you probably need a dual socket motherboard

[bleedblue]

Do you mean VM's?

[TunaL]

My boss is not clear yet but i think Nox App

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[Electronics Wizardy]

1 minute ago, TunaL said:

My boss is not clear yet but i think Nox App 

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what are you doing in the emulator? Budget?

[TunaL]

We use it to improve number of downloads for some Google Store apps.

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, TunaL said:

We use it to improve number of downloads for some applications.

Run a test on your current pc and see how much ram, disk and cpu it needs, then multiply that by 70 and see what you need

 

[TunaL]

1 minute ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Run a test on your current pc and see how much ram, disk and cpu it needs, then multiply that by 70 and see what you need

I've test on my laptop ( i5-7300HQ, 8Gb, 500Gb SSD ) only 6-7 worked smooth. When using 8, my laptop start lagging

Should I buy a new PC with AMD Threadripper for this ?... i really don't know what to buy and my budget maximum 7500$ 

[Fasauceome]

Just now, TunaL said:

I've test on my laptop ( i5-7300HQ, 8Gb, 500Gb SSD ) only 6-7 worked smooth. When using 8, my laptop start lagging

Should I buy a new PC with AMD Threadripper for this ?... i really don't know what to buy and my budget maximum 7500$ 

So you need ten times the power of your laptop basically? Well it sounds like a PC with a threadripper 2990wx should work. 40cores/40threads vs 32c/64t seems like it would do, and threadripper not only supports a load of ram but also quad channel 

[Opencircuit74]

3 minutes ago, TunaL said:

I've test on my laptop ( i5-7300HQ, 8Gb, 500Gb SSD ) only 6-7 worked smooth. When using 8, my laptop start lagging

Should I buy a new PC with AMD Threadripper for this ?... i really don't know what to buy and my budget maximum 7500$ 

Okay. Download MSI afterburner and run it. then, send pictures of the detachable hardware monitor so we can see what specifically you need. Try to do this with a couple of different numbers of tests so we can tell exactly what hardware is being used, and plan around that.

[emosun]

threadripper won't do it you need a lot more sockets or machines , you'd want a 4 way or 8 way setup

the cheapest way to get as much power as possible in 7500$ will be to buy more than one machine

[TunaL]

4 minutes ago, emosun said:

threadripper won't do it you need a lot more sockets or machines , you'd want a 4 way or 8 way setup

the cheapest way to get as much power as possible in 7500$ will be to buy more than one machine

What should I buy ? My boss said he want 1 PC only and run 70 emulators. Can you give me a configuration ? 

[Opencircuit74]

1 minute ago, TunaL said:

What should I buy ? My boss said he want 1 PC only and run 70 emulators. Can you give me a configuration ? 

You can probably do it with threadripper. We can guess on a computer, and just get the highest-end stuff, but being accurate would be better by looking at the usage.

[mariushm]

Don't you think Google will see that all those "phones" are connecting from the same IP address?  They'll probably automatically correct the download count for each app. the next day.

Anyway, my guess is that you're looking at one core and ~ 1 GB of memory for each emulator.  So an EPYC with 32 cores / 64 threads would work.

But it would probably be cheaper to go with 3 x threadripper 1920x each with 24-32 GB of memory.

 

Or find some dual socket G34 server for sale with a couple of 16 core AMD processors and you get 32 cores for cheap. Or make one... motherboards are <200$ on ebay, processors are around 50 dollars each, ddr3 registered memory is cheap...

 

Consider renting servers from Amazon EC2 by the hour, they have servers with up to 96 cores and 384 GB of memory though they would be very expensive.

Something around 16 cores , 32 GB of memory would be a few dollars an hour and you could rent servers physically in multiple locations across US and Europe.

 

[TunaL]

1 minute ago, Opencircuit74 said:

You can probably do it with threadripper. We can guess on a computer, and just get the highest-end stuff, but being accurate would be better by looking at the usage.

Do you think 64Gb RAM enough ? I really don't know anything about this cause i work at promotion department, not IT. This is the 1st time I get order from my boss after our IT guy quit the job.

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[emosun]

If you have 7500 to work with start with one of these which will exceed threadrippers capability by about 33%

https://www.thinkmate.com/product/supermicro/sys-8048b-c0r4ft?source=Google_Shopping&amp;campaign=THI:Shopping:USA&amp;gclid=CjwKCAjw39reBRBJEiwAO1m0ObEawlRwUvNeNmQOp19ulXZRL0ZNMSB99ac3QNRrSuYR41BVLMxzWxoCby4QAvD_BwE

 

[emosun]

1 minute ago, TunaL said:

Do you think 64Gb RAM enough ? I really don't know anything about this cause i work at promotion department, not IT. This is the 1st time I get order from my boss after our IT guy quit the job.

you should tell your boss to hire an IT specialist then , especially if you aren't sure what the 70 simulators do or how much load they have

[Shyam Ganapathy]

1 minute ago, emosun said:

If you have 7500 to work with start with one of these which will exceed threadrippers capability by about 33%

https://www.thinkmate.com/product/supermicro/sys-8048b-c0r4ft?source=Google_Shopping&amp;campaign=THI:Shopping:USA&amp;gclid=CjwKCAjw39reBRBJEiwAO1m0ObEawlRwUvNeNmQOp19ulXZRL0ZNMSB99ac3QNRrSuYR41BVLMxzWxoCby4QAvD_BwE

 

good idea but isnt that more expensive, since u have to still buy the cpus

[Opencircuit74]

Just now, emosun said:

you should tell your boss to hire an IT specialist then , especially if you aren't sure what the 70 simulators do or how much load they have

Yeah, knowing the simulators, especially what their usage is and what they benefit by is pretty important. 

[TunaL]

5 minutes ago, emosun said:

you should tell your boss to hire an IT specialist then , especially if you aren't sure what the 70 simulators do or how much load they have

We are trying to recruit new IT but in Vietnam most of the company leaders pay very low IT salary so people doesn't like to work for the company. They like to work as freelancer.

P/s: My boss is very stingy ( I also have bad wages  )

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[emosun]

If he's stingy he shouldn't give you 7500$ to spend on a piece of equipment that you know nothing about or how to operate. 

It's really hard to recommend something so specialized when we know the person buying it will not know much about it

[TunaL]

Thanks for your help guys ! I think I should outsource an IT after this. If you have anyone working at VN, let me know and We can contact them.

[TunaL]

2 minutes ago, emosun said:

If he's stingy he shouldn't give you 7500$ to spend on a piece of equipment that you know nothing about or how to operate. 

It's really hard to recommend something so specialized when we know the person buying it will not know much about it

I worked 3 years with him. But no IT can work with him more than 4 months cause the salary too low. But he spend a lot for cars, PCs, network equipment, keyboard, mouse... Sometimes I think I'm sitting in Gaming Center, not a normal company :0

[MandoPanda]

On 10/30/2018 at 11:20 AM, bleedblue said:

Do you mean VM's? 

I think he means Thin Clients

 

https://itstillworks.com/set-up-thin-client-environment-7810521.html

[MandoPanda]

On 10/30/2018 at 11:23 AM, TunaL said:

We use it to improve number of downloads for some Google Store apps. 

So lying???