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Will A New GPU Stop FPS Lagging?

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Hello, I've asked a few questions on here about GPUs.  However, I've noticed that my computer has FPS issues, especially with Assetto Corsa.  I noticed that the audio cracks frequently.  When I watch replays, I can see the cars get distorted slightly, like one portion of the car is ahead of the other for a split second.  During that time frame, I hear the audio cracking.  Is this a GPU-related issue?

 

Anyways, I was deciding between a GPU.  Here's a few that I selected:

The 1070ti Cerberus will take me a bit longer to save up for.  I only have $400.  Which would be the best to get?  I really want my computer to stop lagging and making the audio crack (I have no idea if that's the GPU, a different issue, or I need to reinstall the OS).  

 

Prior to installing a new motherboard and processor, my computer still cracked.  This has been happening for quite a few months.  

My PC: i5-8400, Gigabyte B360 motherboard, 1TB HDD, 8GB DDR4 RAM, XFX Radeon R9 380 GPU.  

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It could be a ram issue, you only have 8gb which the basic minimum for gaming and 16 would be ideal

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Audio cutting is usually related to CPU bottleneck given my experience with it, but doesn't make sense to lag in Assetto Corsa with that CPU, looks like a VRAM/RAM issue to me, although this game isn't VRAM/RAM heavy AFAIK, any other programs open in the background and maybe resolution/textures/AA too high? Check your VRAM/RAM usage with MSI Afterburner and try to see what happens with your hardware when it lags. A new GPU would be nice, but you REALLY need a SSD first. I recommend you buying a cheaper GTX 1070 Ti, it's the best option of the bunch.

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check RAM and VRAM usage in-game will apps like Afterburner + RTSS first.

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37 minutes ago, Vasllo said:

Audio cutting is usually related to CPU bottleneck given my experience with it, but doesn't make sense to lag in Assetto Corsa with that CPU, looks like a VRAM/RAM issue to me, although this game isn't VRAM/RAM heavy AFAIK, any other programs open in the background and maybe resolution/textures/AA too high? Check your VRAM/RAM usage with MSI Afterburner and try to see what happens with your hardware when it lags. A new GPU would be nice, but you REALLY need a SSD first. I recommend you buying a cheaper GTX 1070 Ti, it's the best option of the bunch.

Why the SSD?  A lot of people have recommended buying a SSD.  Would Intel Optane 32GB with a HDD be good, or do I really need the SSD?

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4 minutes ago, lazyfortress said:

Why the SSD?  A lot of people have recommended buying a SSD.  Would Intel Optane 32GB with a HDD be good, or do I really need the SSD?

Honestly, I don't know enough about Optane to recommend it or not, so I think you would be better off with a SSD. I plan on doing caching through Windows on my 2TB HD, but not with just 32GB like an Optane has, but with another 240GB SSD just for caching, so I don't think 32GB can do much tbh.

 

SSD will just make your life better, you'll be happier in life with a SSD, just give it a try.

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15 minutes ago, Vasllo said:

Honestly, I don't know enough about Optane to recommend it or not, so I think you would be better off with a SSD. I plan on doing caching through Windows on my 2TB HD, but not with just 32GB like an Optane has, but with another 240GB SSD just for caching, so I don't think 32GB can do much tbh.

 

SSD will just make your life better, you'll be happier in life with a SSD, try it out.

Will a SSD make my games stop lagging + audio stop cracking?  Anyways, in regards to that RAM/VRAM usage w/ MSi Afterburner, what would I be looking for to determine if RAM is an issue?


Edit:  Would CPU-Z work to check VRAM/RAM?    

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3 minutes ago, lazyfortress said:

Will a SSD make my games stop lagging + audio stop cracking?  Anyways, in regards to that RAM/VRAM usage w/ MSi Afterburner, what would I be looking for to determine if RAM is an issue?  

Probably not, but will make Windows and all the programs you put on it load considerably better, making the whole system more responsive and pleasant to use. Look at how much VRAM you're using and if you're maxing out the GPU's VRAM (4GB), and check how much RAM you're using, and also how much pagefile is being used in the task manager or preferably in HWInfo to see if you're using more memory than you have.

 

Edit: The SSD might solve it since it would be a faster "extra RAM" than the HD, but that's not a solution, just a better band-aid.

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2 minutes ago, Vasllo said:

Probably not, but will make Windows and all the programs you put on it load considerably better, making the whole system more responsive and pleasant to use. Look at how much VRAM you're using and if you're maxing out the GPU's VRAM (4GB), and check how much RAM you're using, and also how much pagefile is being used in the task manager or preferably in HWInfo to see if you're using more memory than you have.

I can do this checking in CPU-Z, right?  If so, I'll be checking all this in about an hour.  I'll screen shot Task Manager and CPU-Z when I'm running Assetto Corsa.

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22 minutes ago, lazyfortress said:

I can do this checking in CPU-Z, right?  If so, I'll be checking all this in about an hour.  I'll screen shot Task Manager and CPU-Z when I'm running Assetto Corsa.

No AFAIK, just use HWInfo for it.

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51 minutes ago, Vasllo said:

No AFAIK, just use HWInfo for it.

Alright so CPU-Z allows me to check the CPU, GPU, and RAM usage.  Right now, my GPU is idling at 300MHz, and it's memory is at 150MHz.  My RAM (DRAM) is idling at 1063-1064MHz.  NB Frequency (whatever that is) is at 3490-3592MHz.  My CPU is at 3.79-3.89GHz when idling.

 

I'll post the results when running Assetto Corsa in a few.

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5 minutes ago, lazyfortress said:

Alright so CPU-Z allows me to check the CPU, GPU, and RAM usage.  Right now, my GPU is idling at 300MHz, and it's memory is at 150MHz.  My RAM (DRAM) is idling at 1063-1064MHz.  NB Frequency (whatever that is) is at 3490-3592MHz.  My CPU is at 3.79-3.89GHz when idling.

 

I'll post the results when running Assetto Corsa in a few.

HWInfo shows pagefile usage, which might be the key.

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15 minutes ago, Vasllo said:

HWInfo shows pagefile usage, which might be the key.

Ok will check in a few minutes.

GPU:  Core is at 990MHz, Memory at 1375MHz.  Previously when idling, it's core was 300MHz, and memory was 150MHz.

RAM:  Everything seems to have stayed the same

CPU:  Still same


Edit:  Want me to post screenshot of HWInfo?

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4 minutes ago, lazyfortress said:

Ok will check in a few minutes.

GPU:  Core is at 990MHz, Memory at 1375MHz.  Previously when idling, it's core was 300MHz, and memory was 150MHz.

RAM:  Everything seems to have stayed the same

CPU:  Still same


Edit:  Want me to post screenshot of HWInfo?

 

Specifically, this:

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2 minutes ago, Vasllo said:

 

Specifically, this:

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2 minutes ago, lazyfortress said:

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This is mine on Assetto Corsa, your virtual memory commited is much higher, but doesn't seem to be the problem. Try reinstalling your GPU's drivers with DDU.

 

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1 minute ago, Vasllo said:

 

This is mine on Assetto Corsa, your virtual memory commited is much higher, but doesn't seem to be the problem. Try reinstalling your GPU's drivers with DDU.

 

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Ok my computer is lagging super hard right now.  If I reinstall my drivers, what will that do for me?  And how do I reinstall my drivers?

 

Currently when playing music, it got super slow and distorted.  So much cracking, sounded almost robotic.  

DPC Latency:

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1 minute ago, lazyfortress said:

Ok my computer is lagging super hard right now.  If I reinstall my drivers, what will that do for me?  And how do I reinstall my drivers?

 

Currently when playing music, it got super slow and distorted.  So much cracking, sounded almost robotic.  

DPC Latency:

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Oh shit, I've seen that before. I can't remember the name, but look for a program to check latency per process. My old notebook had an issue caused by something on Windows 10 that caused insane process interruption, it was easily using 20-50% of the CPU in the task manager. There's a driver issue in your PC, the most common is the network driver, but might be USB aswell. Now you'll have to discover which driver is f*cked up and try to update it.

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LatencyMon is the software, just found it, luckily.

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2 minutes ago, Vasllo said:

Oh shit, I've seen that before. I can't remember the name, but look for a program to check latency per process. My old notebook had an issue caused by something on Windows 10 that caused insane process interruption, it was easily using 20-50% of the CPU in the task manager. There's a driver issue in your PC, the most common is the network driver, but might be USB aswell. Now you'll have to discover which driver is f*cked up and try to update it.

I disabled my QualComm Atheros before and it seemed to stop the lag, but I need wifi, sooooo...  I also tried to update the driver, but couldn't find any.  Some person showed me one, and I tried it, but to no avail.

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2 minutes ago, lazyfortress said:

I disabled my QualComm Atheros before and it seemed to stop the lag, but I need wifi, sooooo...  I also tried to update the driver, but couldn't find any.  Some person showed me one, and I tried it, but to no avail.

Well, try to just delete and reinstall the same version then. I remember it was a pain to solve on my notebook.

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3 minutes ago, Vasllo said:

Well, try to just delete and reinstall the same version then. I remember it was a pain to solve on my notebook.

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I have no idea which is the problem.

 

Also, is the GPU a problem or not?  If I end up replacing my GPU (currently a R9 380) with either a RX580 or a GTX1070 SC, what differences would I see with either GPU?

 

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7 minutes ago, lazyfortress said:

 

I have no idea which is the problem.

 

Also, is the GPU a problem or not?  If I end up replacing my GPU (currently a R9 380) with either a RX580 or a GTX1070 SC, what differences would I see with either GPU?

 

You would run the games max settings (mostly) no problem, so better FPS overall. Also, the GTX 1070 is considerably better than the RX 580, which competes with the GTX 1060 6GB.

 

The problem is not the GPU, but rather a driver issue, as you said, the network driver. Let LatencyMon run and organize it by DPC and see which driver(s) has the highest DPC, that's the culprit. On my notebook, one of the drivers would just spike to millions of DPC.

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5 minutes ago, Vasllo said:

You would run the games max settings (mostly) no problem, so better FPS overall. Also, the GTX 1070 is considerably better than the RX 580, which competes with the GTX 1060 6GB.

 

The problem is not the GPU, but rather a driver issue, as you said, the network driver. Let LatencyMon run and organize it by DPC and see which driver(s) has the highest DPC, that's the culprit. On my notebook, one of the drivers would just spike to millions of DPC.

I just uninstalled the drivers for the QualComm thing, and I realized that I need an internet connection to install new drivers.  Also for some reason, my PC said that the best drivers are already installed, even though I uninstalled?

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Just now, lazyfortress said:

I just uninstalled the drivers for the QualComm thing, and I realized that I need an internet connection to install new drivers.  Also for some reason, my PC said that the best drivers are already installed, even though I uninstalled?

Windows might have installed a basic driver or just being stupid and saying you have the best driver just because it has no drivers, or something went wrong with the uninstallation. Do you have connection?

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