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Hey all, looking to overclock my memory since I have a Ryzen 5 1600 and play lots of World of Warcraft, a very cpu intensive game.

heres my build: 

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Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor $154.89 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler $26.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard $84.89 @ OutletPC
Memory G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory $65.89 @ OutletPC
Memory G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory $65.89 @ OutletPC
Storage Samsung - 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  
Storage Western Digital - AV-GP 320GB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  
Storage Western Digital - Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $31.95 @ Amazon
Video Card MSI - Radeon RX 580 8GB GAMING X Video Card $475.85 @ Amazon
Case Phanteks - Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case $105.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply EVGA - 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $39.89 @ OutletPC
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit $124.79 @ OutletPC
Wireless Network Adapter Netgear - A6210-100PAS USB 3.0 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter $40.99 @ Amazon
Case Fan Cooler Master - Megaflow 110.0 CFM 200mm Fan $13.09 @ OutletPC
Case Fan Phanteks - PH-F140XP_BK 85.2 CFM 140mm Fan $18.98 @ Newegg
Case Fan ARCTIC - F12 PWM 53.0 CFM 120mm Fan $7.49 @ SuperBiiz
Case Fan ARCTIC - F12 PWM 53.0 CFM 120mm Fan $7.49 @ SuperBiiz
Case Fan Corsair - ML140 Pro LED 97.0 CFM 140mm Fan $25.83 @ OutletPC
Monitor Samsung - S24D300HL 23.6" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor  
Monitor Asus - VG278Q 27.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor $288.51 @ Amazon
Keyboard Corsair - K55 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard $48.25 @ Newegg
Mouse Corsair - SCIMITAR PRO RGB Wired Optical Mouse $69.99 @ Newegg
Headphones Kingston - HyperX Cloud II 7.1 Channel Headset $89.99 @ Amazon
Other Devoko Ergonomic Gaming Chair Racing Style Adjustable Height High-back PC Computer Chair With Headrest and Lumbar Massage Support Executive Office Chair (Red)  
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1832.52
  Mail-in rebates -$45.00
  Total $1787.52
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-19 15:20 EDT-0400  

My ryzen is clocked at 4ghz all cores, temps aren't a issue. But something interesting is when ever I try and adjust the voltage without going over 1.425V, it isn't stable. But if i leave the voltage at auto, everything is fine, the cpu stays at 4ghz and my volts never go above 1.425.

My gpus is at 1500mhz and 2250 on the memory. 

 

I currently have my memory at just DOCP 2400 profile. I have tried the 2600 profile and uping the voltages but then my system locks up and I have to clear cmos.

I know there are other things I can adjust such as manually setting the frequency instead of using the profile, and adjusting timings/latency but im not really sure where to to start or how to. I am also not sure of the limitations of my motherboard and what ryzen can handle when it comes to memory OC.

Any tips to get started? attaching dxdiag as well 

 

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13 minutes ago, fueryin said:

But something interesting is when ever I try and adjust the voltage without going over 1.425V, it isn't stable. But if i leave the voltage at auto, everything is fine, the cpu stays at 4ghz and my volts never go above 1.425.

higher temperature causing instability?

 

14 minutes ago, fueryin said:

I know there are other things I can adjust such as manually setting the frequency instead of using the profile, and adjusting timings/latency but im not really sure where to to start or how to.

Raise SOC voltage of the CPU to 1.2V, and create a memtest86+ bootable USB first, you should use this to check for memory stability

 

I'd start with 2666, also raise memory voltage to 1.35V

Get into the page that let you set timings. There should be 5 numbers: Tcas/Tcl, Trcd, Trp, Tras and command rate. Try the worst JEDEC numbers first for the Ts, then 2T for command rate. Save your settings, and boot into the memtest86+ usb. Do memory test there. I'm not patient enough to let it go through everything, so I test for 3 minutes instead

If stable, try lower the first Ts by 1, do test, until it crashes or spits out errors. Pull that back to the last stable number, then start with the second number. Do this to all 4 numbers.

 

Give the final settings a full memtest86+ test.

 

If stable, you're done

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

higher temperature causing instability?

 

Raise SOC voltage of the CPU to 1.2V, and create a memtest86+ bootable USB first, you should use this to check for memory stability

 

I'd start with 2666, also raise memory voltage to 1.35V

Get into the page that let you set timings. There should be 5 numbers: Tcas/Tcl, Trcd, Trp, Tras and command rate. Try the worst JEDEC numbers first for the Ts, then 2T for command rate. Save your settings, and boot into the memtest86+ usb. Do memory test there. I'm not patient enough to let it go through everything, so I test for 3 minutes instead

If stable, try lower the first Ts by 1, do test, until it crashes or spits out errors. Pull that back to the last stable number, then start with the second number. Do this to all 4 numbers.

 

Give the final settings a full memtest86+ test.

 

If stable, you're done

Temps arent a issue, max load i get 60 degrees. Just a weird bug with bios maybe? idk

 

Ok ill try that, but Raise "SOC voltage of the CPU to 1.2V, and create a memtest86+ bootable USB first, you should use this to check for memory stability". not entirely sure what this means or how to do this.Ill google around. ill let you know in a few hours how it goes.

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Just now, fueryin said:

Temps arent a issue, max load i get 60 degrees. Just a weird bug with bios maybe? idk

 

Ok ill try that, but Raise "SOC voltage of the CPU to 1.2V, and create a memtest86+ bootable USB first, you should use this to check for memory stability". not entirely sure what this means or how to do this.Ill google around. ill let you know in a few hours how it goes.

could be a lot of vdroop

 

SOC voltage powers Ryzens' memory controller. Raising it helps stability. More than that though could hurt it instead.

 

memtest86+ is a memory stress test tool that doesnt run on any OS, instead coded to run directly from the BIOS, just like the Windows Install USB

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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On 10/19/2018 at 2:49 PM, Jurrunio said:

higher temperature causing instability?

 

Raise SOC voltage of the CPU to 1.2V, and create a memtest86+ bootable USB first, you should use this to check for memory stability

 

I'd start with 2666, also raise memory voltage to 1.35V

Get into the page that let you set timings. There should be 5 numbers: Tcas/Tcl, Trcd, Trp, Tras and command rate. Try the worst JEDEC numbers first for the Ts, then 2T for command rate. Save your settings, and boot into the memtest86+ usb. Do memory test there. I'm not patient enough to let it go through everything, so I test for 3 minutes instead

If stable, try lower the first Ts by 1, do test, until it crashes or spits out errors. Pull that back to the last stable number, then start with the second number. Do this to all 4 numbers.

 

Give the final settings a full memtest86+ test.

 

If stable, you're done

Just starting the oc, and a bit confused. Where would I find these jedec numbers? For trcdrd it is auto set to 15. 

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5 minutes ago, fueryin said:

Just starting the oc, and a bit confused. Where would I find these jedec numbers? For trcdrd it is auto set to 15. 

Wikipedia's DDR4 entry?

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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