Help overlocking memory

[fueryin]

Hey all, looking to overclock my memory since I have a Ryzen 5 1600 and play lots of World of Warcraft, a very cpu intensive game.

heres my build: 

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Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor	$154.89 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler	Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler	$26.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard	Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard	$84.89 @ OutletPC
Memory	G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory	$65.89 @ OutletPC
Memory	G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory	$65.89 @ OutletPC
Storage	Samsung - 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Storage	Western Digital - AV-GP 320GB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive
Storage	Western Digital - Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$31.95 @ Amazon
Video Card	MSI - Radeon RX 580 8GB GAMING X Video Card	$475.85 @ Amazon
Case	Phanteks - Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case	$105.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply	EVGA - 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	$39.89 @ OutletPC
Operating System	Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit	$124.79 @ OutletPC
Wireless Network Adapter	Netgear - A6210-100PAS USB 3.0 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter	$40.99 @ Amazon
Case Fan	Cooler Master - Megaflow 110.0 CFM 200mm Fan	$13.09 @ OutletPC
Case Fan	Phanteks - PH-F140XP_BK 85.2 CFM 140mm Fan	$18.98 @ Newegg
Case Fan	ARCTIC - F12 PWM 53.0 CFM 120mm Fan	$7.49 @ SuperBiiz
Case Fan	ARCTIC - F12 PWM 53.0 CFM 120mm Fan	$7.49 @ SuperBiiz
Case Fan	Corsair - ML140 Pro LED 97.0 CFM 140mm Fan	$25.83 @ OutletPC
Monitor	Samsung - S24D300HL 23.6" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor
Monitor	Asus - VG278Q 27.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor	$288.51 @ Amazon
Keyboard	Corsair - K55 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard	$48.25 @ Newegg
Mouse	Corsair - SCIMITAR PRO RGB Wired Optical Mouse	$69.99 @ Newegg
Headphones	Kingston - HyperX Cloud II 7.1 Channel Headset	$89.99 @ Amazon
Other	Devoko Ergonomic Gaming Chair Racing Style Adjustable Height High-back PC Computer Chair With Headrest and Lumbar Massage Support Executive Office Chair (Red)
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My ryzen is clocked at 4ghz all cores, temps aren't a issue. But something interesting is when ever I try and adjust the voltage without going over 1.425V, it isn't stable. But if i leave the voltage at auto, everything is fine, the cpu stays at 4ghz and my volts never go above 1.425.

My gpus is at 1500mhz and 2250 on the memory. 

 

I currently have my memory at just DOCP 2400 profile. I have tried the 2600 profile and uping the voltages but then my system locks up and I have to clear cmos.

I know there are other things I can adjust such as manually setting the frequency instead of using the profile, and adjusting timings/latency but im not really sure where to to start or how to. I am also not sure of the limitations of my motherboard and what ryzen can handle when it comes to memory OC.

Any tips to get started? attaching dxdiag as well 

 

DxDiag.txt

[Jurrunio]

13 minutes ago, fueryin said:

But something interesting is when ever I try and adjust the voltage without going over 1.425V, it isn't stable. But if i leave the voltage at auto, everything is fine, the cpu stays at 4ghz and my volts never go above 1.425.

higher temperature causing instability?

 

14 minutes ago, fueryin said:

I know there are other things I can adjust such as manually setting the frequency instead of using the profile, and adjusting timings/latency but im not really sure where to to start or how to.

Raise SOC voltage of the CPU to 1.2V, and create a memtest86+ bootable USB first, you should use this to check for memory stability

 

I'd start with 2666, also raise memory voltage to 1.35V

Get into the page that let you set timings. There should be 5 numbers: Tcas/Tcl, Trcd, Trp, Tras and command rate. Try the worst JEDEC numbers first for the Ts, then 2T for command rate. Save your settings, and boot into the memtest86+ usb. Do memory test there. I'm not patient enough to let it go through everything, so I test for 3 minutes instead

If stable, try lower the first Ts by 1, do test, until it crashes or spits out errors. Pull that back to the last stable number, then start with the second number. Do this to all 4 numbers.

 

Give the final settings a full memtest86+ test.

 

If stable, you're done

[fueryin]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

higher temperature causing instability?

 

Raise SOC voltage of the CPU to 1.2V, and create a memtest86+ bootable USB first, you should use this to check for memory stability

 

I'd start with 2666, also raise memory voltage to 1.35V

Get into the page that let you set timings. There should be 5 numbers: Tcas/Tcl, Trcd, Trp, Tras and command rate. Try the worst JEDEC numbers first for the Ts, then 2T for command rate. Save your settings, and boot into the memtest86+ usb. Do memory test there. I'm not patient enough to let it go through everything, so I test for 3 minutes instead

If stable, try lower the first Ts by 1, do test, until it crashes or spits out errors. Pull that back to the last stable number, then start with the second number. Do this to all 4 numbers.

 

Give the final settings a full memtest86+ test.

 

If stable, you're done

Temps arent a issue, max load i get 60 degrees. Just a weird bug with bios maybe? idk

 

Ok ill try that, but Raise "SOC voltage of the CPU to 1.2V, and create a memtest86+ bootable USB first, you should use this to check for memory stability". not entirely sure what this means or how to do this.Ill google around. ill let you know in a few hours how it goes.

[Jurrunio]

Just now, fueryin said:

Temps arent a issue, max load i get 60 degrees. Just a weird bug with bios maybe? idk

 

Ok ill try that, but Raise "SOC voltage of the CPU to 1.2V, and create a memtest86+ bootable USB first, you should use this to check for memory stability". not entirely sure what this means or how to do this.Ill google around. ill let you know in a few hours how it goes.

could be a lot of vdroop

 

SOC voltage powers Ryzens' memory controller. Raising it helps stability. More than that though could hurt it instead.

 

memtest86+ is a memory stress test tool that doesnt run on any OS, instead coded to run directly from the BIOS, just like the Windows Install USB

[fueryin]

On 10/19/2018 at 2:49 PM, Jurrunio said:

higher temperature causing instability?

 

Raise SOC voltage of the CPU to 1.2V, and create a memtest86+ bootable USB first, you should use this to check for memory stability

 

I'd start with 2666, also raise memory voltage to 1.35V

Get into the page that let you set timings. There should be 5 numbers: Tcas/Tcl, Trcd, Trp, Tras and command rate. Try the worst JEDEC numbers first for the Ts, then 2T for command rate. Save your settings, and boot into the memtest86+ usb. Do memory test there. I'm not patient enough to let it go through everything, so I test for 3 minutes instead

If stable, try lower the first Ts by 1, do test, until it crashes or spits out errors. Pull that back to the last stable number, then start with the second number. Do this to all 4 numbers.

 

Give the final settings a full memtest86+ test.

 

If stable, you're done

Just starting the oc, and a bit confused. Where would I find these jedec numbers? For trcdrd it is auto set to 15. 

[Jurrunio]

5 minutes ago, fueryin said:

Just starting the oc, and a bit confused. Where would I find these jedec numbers? For trcdrd it is auto set to 15. 

Wikipedia's DDR4 entry?

[fueryin]

Nvm figured it out