first build Critique Needed On First Build

[yoven2k]

This is gonna be my first pc (had 2 laptops in the past), since it's gonna be my first pc, I feel under-confident with my building skills and think its gonna end bad-mediocre but I want the best quality I can get so... Im getting it built at memoryexpress for $75 CAD and tax costs $70 PLUS inflated prices sooo around $1500? Its sad I know. If you have any tips I can still possibly make it by myself and Im waiting for black friday/cyber monday sales.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor	$244.99 @ PC-Canada
CPU Cooler	ARCTIC - Freezer 33 CO CPU Cooler	$40.49 @ Amazon Canada
Motherboard	Gigabyte - B360M DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$90.52 @ Amazon Canada
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory	$99.99 @ Memory Express
Storage	Kingston - A400 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$47.99 @ Amazon Canada
Storage	Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$47.99 @ Newegg Canada
Video Card	Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card	$367.98 @ Amazon Canada
Case	Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case	$69.95 @ Vuugo
Power Supply	Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply	$79.99 @ Corsair
Case Fan	Corsair - Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (2-Pack) 39.9 CFM 120mm Fans	$34.99 @ Amazon Canada
Monitor	Asus - VP247H-P 23.6" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor	$174.99 @ Amazon Canada
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1299.87
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-14 22:18 EDT-0400

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

1. Budget & Location

$1300 CAD is my budget for PC and Monitor (just the parts, not inflated, etc mentioned above) with a $10 digital windows 10 key.

2. Aim

Aim is to be able to play most of the recent games with high-ultra settings above 60+ fps, some schoolwork (nothing intensive really), maybe watching movies or videos when bored, but MOSTLY playing the recent games with 60+ fps.

3. Monitors

Gonna get a 60hz, 1ms monitor @1080p resolution and 23.6 inches length for now. Might get a 144hz 1ms monitor in the future (few-several months, not sure) for more competitive games like CS:GO or League of Legends or Rainbow Six Siege.

4. Peripherals

I already have a decent mechanical keyboard (Reddragon Vara red backlight) and great mouse (Logitech G403 wired RGB) and I hope I get a Steelseries QCK Mousepad for the holiday from a friend. Monitor Ive mentioned above; the case is meh, I wish it looked better and all but Im getting it because of the mesh which provides good air flow and lower temps right? I was planning to get something more minimalistic and aesthetically pleasing like the Fractal Design Meshify C or the Phanteks P400(S) but its kind of out of my budget or I could possibly save up a bit more for it, what's your opinion on this?

5. Why are you upgrading?

I'm upgrading from a Hp Pavillion (i7 7500U, Geforce 940mx, 16gb ddr4 2133mhz, 1tb hdd) because whenever I play CS:GO I can barely reach a constant 55-60fps (and frequently fps drops to like 5fps or lower D:), whenever I play Rust I barely reach 20fps on the LOWEST POSSIBLE settings, and you get the drift. I just cant enjoy my games without going lowest settings and just reaching 60fps, I want to play my games at 60+fps CONSTANT and at highest or high-ish settings. I also want a rig that can last 3-5+ years without needing to upgrade the major components, because I will probably spend my money on games or on set up stuff (144hz 1ms monitor) or just save up. 

Yeah thats it. Just need your opinions pretty badly because from my point of view I dont see much of a problem with this build, but maybe from your point of view, it's a bad combination.

*EDIT* Changed the PSU from a Corsair CXM450 to a CXM550 for future proof when I possibly change the GPU to something better.

*EDIT* Changed the CPU Cooler from Hyper 212 EVO to Freezer 33 CO (limited to the CO version because supplier doesn't have the regular version).

Edited October 15, 2018 by yoven2k

[Nogghan]

8 minutes ago, yoven2k said:

This is gonna be my first pc (had 2 laptops in the past), since it's gonna be my first pc, I feel under-confident with my building skills and think its gonna end bad-mediocre but I want the best quality I can get so... Im getting it built at memoryexpress for $75 CAD and tax costs $70 PLUS inflated prices sooo around $1500? Its sad I know. If you have any tips I can still possibly make it by myself and Im waiting for black friday/cyber monday sales.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor	$244.99 @ PC-Canada
CPU Cooler	Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler	$37.50 @ Vuugo
Motherboard	Gigabyte - B360M DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$90.52 @ Amazon Canada
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory	$99.99 @ Memory Express
Storage	Kingston - A400 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$47.99 @ Amazon Canada
Storage	Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$47.99 @ Newegg Canada
Video Card	Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card	$367.98 @ Amazon Canada
Case	Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case	$69.95 @ Vuugo
Power Supply	Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply	$69.00 @ Vuugo
Case Fan	Corsair - Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (2-Pack) 39.9 CFM 120mm Fans	$34.99 @ Amazon Canada
Monitor	Asus - VP247H-P 23.6" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor	$174.99 @ Amazon Canada
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1285.89
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-14 20:40 EDT-0400

 

1. Budget & Location

$1300 CAD is my budget for PC and Monitor (just the parts, not inflated, etc mentioned above) with a $10 digital windows 10 key.

2. Aim

Aim is to be able to play most of the recent games with high-ultra settings above 60+ fps, some schoolwork (nothing intensive really), maybe watching movies or videos when bored, but MOSTLY playing the recent games with 60+ fps.

3. Monitors

Gonna get a 60hz, 1ms monitor @1080p resolution and 23.6 inches length for now. Might get a 144hz 1ms monitor in the future (few-several months, not sure) for more competitive games like CS:GO or League of Legends or Rainbow Six Siege.

4. Peripherals

I already have a decent mechanical keyboard (Reddragon Vara red backlight) and great mouse (Logitech G403 wired RGB) and I hope I get a Steelseries QCK Mousepad for the holiday from a friend. Monitor Ive mentioned above; the case is meh, I wish it looked better and all but Im getting it because of the mesh which provides good air flow and lower temps right? I was planning to get something more minimalistic and aesthetically pleasing like the Fractal Design Meshify C or the Phanteks P400(S) but its kind of out of my budget or I could possibly save up a bit more for it, what's your opinion on this?

5. Why are you upgrading?

I'm upgrading from a Hp Pavillion (i7 7500U, Geforce 940mx, 16gb ddr4 2133mhz, 1tb hdd) because whenever I play CS:GO I can barely reach a constant 55-60fps (and frequently fps drops to like 5fps or lower D:), whenever I play Rust I barely reach 20fps on the LOWEST POSSIBLE settings, and you get the drift. I just cant enjoy my games without going lowest settings and just reaching 60fps, I want to play my games at 60+fps CONSTANT and at highest or high-ish settings. I also want a rig that can last 3-5+ years without needing to upgrade the major components, because I will probably spend my money on games or on set up stuff (144hz 1ms monitor) or just save up. 

Yeah thats it. Just need your opinions pretty badly because from my point of view I dont see much of a problem with this build, but maybe from your point of view, it's a bad combination.

looks fine, if all youre doing is gaming ignore the "go to ryzen instead" comments 

[yoven2k]

Just now, Alexsolo said:

I wouldn't get a CPU cooler cause the processor has one in the box.

Yes, but I've read that it'll be difficult for my CPU to hit max turbo speeds without heating up a lot. So I'm getting that 'good but cheap' Hyper 212 EVO Fan.

[lmeneses]

3 minutes ago, Nogghan said:

looks fine, if all youre doing is gaming ignore the "go to ryzen instead" comments 

Why ignore Ryzen? You can get the 2600 for cheaper (at least in the US), and it is overclockable, which gives it better performance in gaming. 

 

Also, OP, you should look into getting a gold rated psu rather than bronze

[yoven2k]

Just now, RainGamma said:

Btw you could get a water cooler one if you wanted.

Kinda expensive though right? Im like above my budget at this point.

[lmeneses]

5 minutes ago, RainGamma said:

Btw you could get a water cooler one if you wanted.

Water cooled for a non-overclockable cpu?

[LienusLateTips]

10 minutes ago, yoven2k said:

Yes, but I've read that it'll be difficult for my CPU to hit max turbo speeds without heating up a lot. So I'm getting that 'good but cheap' Hyper 212 EVO Fan.

Get a Freezer 33 eSports instead then. The 212 EVO is trash.

 

Tip: don't ignore Ryzen.

[Nogghan]

Just now, yoven2k said:

Kinda expensive though right? Im like above my budget at this point.

you could find better deals on GPUs and PSUs that 450w BQ PSU for $70 is terrible sounding 

[yoven2k]

Just now, lmeneses said:

Why ignore Ryzen? You can get the 2600 for cheaper (at least in the US), and it is overclockable, which gives it better performance in gaming. 

 

Also, OP, you should look into getting a gold rated psu rather than bronze

About the Ryzen 5 2600, I'm not really looking forward to overclocking atm, but maybe in the future. 

Regarding the PSU, what's the difference? And what's a good one you recommend for a reasonable price?

[LienusLateTips]

1 minute ago, yoven2k said:

Regarding the PSU, what's the difference? And what's a good one you recommend for a reasonable price?

Just stick with the bronze. Canadian electricity (at least in the west, idk about the east) is cheap and you won't get back the additional cost of the gold unit.

2 minutes ago, RainGamma said:

Hmm gold+ is good it’s what I use

No brand provided? 

 

1 minute ago, RainGamma said:

Just looked at ours. It’s good. I think it will be good for you.

You haven't even provided a model, yet exclaim it's good?

[LienusLateTips]

1 minute ago, RainGamma said:

But if you ever wanted to upgrade to something better I think you should get like at 750 wat or 650 just in case.

750W is a waste of money. 650 isn't needed except if you have Vega or HEDT.

[yoven2k]

Just now, LienusLateTips said:

Get a Freezer 33 eSports instead then. The 212 EVO is trash.

 

Tip: don't ignore Ryzen.

About the Freezer 33, is it this one by chance? https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX66399

[lmeneses]

4 minutes ago, yoven2k said:

About the Ryzen 5 2600, I'm not really looking forward to overclocking atm, but maybe in the future. 

Regarding the PSU, what's the difference? And what's a good one you recommend for a reasonable price?

Ocing will allow your PC to last longer with gaming, so its not a bad idea to at least get an unlocked processor. Also, a psu's rating determines its efficiency. This means a gold rated PSU uses the power it pulls more effectively by not wasting as much, and as we know, energy produces heat. So the unused energy drawn from a bronze rated psu disperses, which leads to heat

[LienusLateTips]

1 minute ago, yoven2k said:

About the Freezer 33, is it this one by chance? https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX66399

https://www.amazon.ca/Arctic-Freezer-Esports-Processor-Efficient/dp/B076LQ2BJZ/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1539568320&sr=1-2&keywords=Arctic+Freezer+33+Esports+ONE

[yoven2k]

Just now, LienusLateTips said:

https://www.amazon.ca/Arctic-Freezer-Esports-Processor-Efficient/dp/B076LQ2BJZ/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1539568320&sr=1-2&keywords=Arctic+Freezer+33+Esports+ONE

Gotcha https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX68965 

Also, any information on how much better it is than the Hyper 212 EVO?

[LienusLateTips]

2 minutes ago, yoven2k said:

Gotcha https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX68965 

Also, any information on how much better it is than the Hyper 212 EVO?

No, that's the TR version and won't fit on standard PCs.

 

You'll want the the standard Freezer 33 if you want it to fit.

 

@seoz would know more about this stuff.

[yoven2k]

Okay great, thanks for the help everyone, I'm probably switching the Hyper 212 with https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX66399 (Arctic Cooling Freezer 33 CO) I know it says 'CO' but it's my only choice since there aren't any other versions of it from memoryexpress. At least it'll last longer. I also changed the PSU to a CXM550 Bronze, for more future proofness when I eventually upgrade my GPU or other components. Though I'll be reading a bit about the differences between Hyper 212 with the Freezer 33.

Please if you have any more opinions on this, let me know <3. 

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, yoven2k said:

from memoryexpress.

Why limit yourself to only MemEx tho? Amazon has free shipping nationwide over $35, which the Freezer is, and in most metro areas it's free two day shipping.

[yoven2k]

Just now, LienusLateTips said:

Why limit yourself to only MemEx tho? Amazon has free shipping nationwide over $35, which the Freezer is, and in most metro areas it's free two day shipping.

I dont know if I've mentioned it, but I'm getting my PC built from them too (cuz im not confident in my building skills and im sure they can do a better job, hopefully) and they only have the Freezer 33 CO, so yeah.

[yoven2k]

Any thoughts on the Monitor? Let me know if you know a good 60hz 1ms 23-24inch monitor @1080p resolution, at a cheaper price than $200 CAD.

[jiyeon]

5 hours ago, yoven2k said:

I'm probably switching the Hyper 212 with https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX66399 (Arctic Cooling Freezer 33 CO) I know it says 'CO' but it's my only choice since there aren't any other versions of it from memoryexpress.

The Freezer 33 CO is on par with a Hyper 212 EVO, so it's a nice choice, especially with the 33 CO being semi-passive.

 

It has near-enough the same features as the 33 eSports One, except the eSports One has a black construction.