gaming on linux Discussion

[Lilninjsways]

How long do you believe it will be before most of steam's major/AAA games will be running very smoothly on linux? I've dual booted ubuntu and windows 10 and love ubuntu much better than windows 10 at the moment but i stay on windows 10 just for gaming sadly... I really want Battle.net and Steam games (and sadly origin) to run on linux... the progress seems to be going really smoothly but am just wondering when i can move over to linux fully 

[Radium_Angel]

3 minutes ago, Lilninjsways said:

How long do you believe it will be before most of steam's major/AAA games will be running very smoothly on linux? I've dual booted ubuntu and windows 10 and love ubuntu much better than windows 10 at the moment but i stay on windows 10 just for gaming sadly... I really want Battle.net and Steam games (and sadly origin) to run on linux... the progress seems to be going really smoothly but am just wondering when i can move over to linux fully 

They all run well...under a VM.....

(Which I have tested extensively. Performance hit goes from 10 to 30% depending on specs and such, but for the most part, you'll never notice....)

[pipnina]

Proton came out just over a month ago now (I think) and make a lot of steam games compatible with Linux (if you override the official support filter), small levels of progress have been made in the patches since but to get to this point took 2 years in the first place. Of course we don't know what else Valve is working on right now however...

 

Origin, Uplay and Battle.net won't come to Linux natively until there are more Linux gamers than MacOS gamers. MacOS is already a supported platform on Battle.net and origin, but not all games support it. If Linux reached that point those publishers would port their launchers and probably release a few newer games.

 

All in all, I don't think you can ever set a target for 100% compatibility for games with no official Linux build. Some games rely of technologies that make compatibility layers difficult or impossible to use (anticheat, DRM) and AAA games are typically way worse for this. The most you can hope for is for official support from EA, Ubisoft and Activision/Blizzard, which will only happen with more players.

Not that those lot coming to Linux would really enrich the Linux gaming market anyway... Maybe Blizzard.

 

As for Steam, I'd imagine we'll probably see 80% plus within a year. It's a pretty high % already thanks to Proton.

[EPENEX]

I haven't had an issues running games in my Steam library on GNU/Linux, but I don't really play games on my computer.

[crosstiger]

Imo it will still take a rather long time. Mainly because the average Joe doesn't really care about Linux. They know their Windows and they know about mac but Linux is still a niche product (at least in the consumer marked). I just can’t see companies pushing the Linux support when just a fraction of their audience even knows what Linux is.

 

This puts the Linux support unfortunately in a bad circle. Not many consumers -> not a big priority for support -> Not many consumers due to lack of support etc.

 

Maybe someday. but not today, not tomorrow and not next week.

[Guest]

Many games are already there so by the time the PS5 comes out many games should be also available on Linux. Then for the PS5 update, it should be standard to have some games maybe linux only. 

[Underi]

I've installed Deepin on my main drive and Steam's new "Steam Play" works well even in unsupported games. I've tested a couple of Windows only games with Steam Play and they were playable.

 

People just need to start using Linux more, which makes GPU´manufacturers realize that they should focus on Linux drivers too. That way games will run better.

Also big AAA dev companies should start to make games for linux too.

 

Only problem is that there isn't really a market for linux gaming. Majority of gamers and people in general still use windows over linux, so it isn't worth it for companies to develop drivers and games on linux.

[Lilninjsways]

9 hours ago, fpo said:

Many games are already there so by the time the PS5 comes out many games should be also available on Linux. Then for the PS5 update, it should be standard to have some games maybe linux only. 

lol the ps5 huh? 

[Lilninjsways]

6 hours ago, Underi said:

I've installed Deepin on my main drive and Steam's new "Steam Play" works well even in unsupported games. I've tested a couple of Windows only games with Steam Play and they were playable.

 

People just need to start using Linux more, which makes GPU´manufacturers realize that they should focus on Linux drivers too. That way games will run better.

 Also big AAA dev companies should start to make games for linux too.

 

Only problem is that there isn't really a market for linux gaming. Majority of gamers and people in general still use windows over linux, so it isn't worth it for companies to develop drivers and games on linux.

yea im tired of windows at this point it's so annoying but i dont want to fully transition till blizzard and maybe origin runs on linux...

[Underi]

6 minutes ago, Lilninjsways said:

yea im tired of windows at this point it's so annoying but i dont want to fully transition till blizzard and maybe origin runs on linux... 

I have 1.5TB worth of games on my harddrives so you could do what I did which is installing Linux on your main SSD drive and install Windows on a smaller 100-300GB partition on one of your harddrives. That way you can boot to windows to play those windows games and otherwise use linux.

[Lilninjsways]

1 minute ago, Underi said:

I have 1.5TB worth of games on my harddrives so you could do what I did which is installing Linux on your main SSD drive and install Windows on a smaller 100-300GB partition on one of your harddrives. That way you can boot to windows to play those windows games and otherwise use linux.

i have like 3 or so TB of games (that includes my whole game library on steam origin and blizzard) can i transfer my games/partition over to linux?

[Guest]

13 minutes ago, Lilninjsways said:

lol the ps5 huh? 

Yeah. Should be out in 2-5 years. 

[Giganthrax]

Linux will never have the driver or game support Windows has. You will be able to game on it, but it will always be a worse overall experience.

 

Worst case scenario, if Linux somehow gets a meaningful OS market share, Microsoft will say screw it and make a fully free-to-use Windows that will still be easier to use and more polished and have more developer support than any Linux distro. 

[Lilninjsways]

Just now, fpo said:

Yeah. Should be out in 2-5 years. 

where's this info coming from?

[Lilninjsways]

3 minutes ago, Giganthrax said:

Linux will never have the driver or game support Windows has. You will be able to game on it, but it will always be a worse overall experience.

 

Worst case scenario, if Linux somehow gets a meaningful OS market share, Microsoft will say screw it and make a fully free-to-use Windows that will still be easier to use and more polished and have more developer support than any Linux distro. 

see the thing is i dont really want to use windows.... and with steam doing steam play hopefully it will work much much better than before.. 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Lilninjsways said:

where's this info coming from?

Speculation from rumors and how many console generations have worked. Xbox og 2001-2006. 5 years. 360 2006-2009~ 360 update 2009-2013. 7~ years. 

 

Xbox one 2013-2015~ Xbox one update 2015-? 

 

Every generation is about 5 years, even modern ones. I know I said PS5 and mentioned Xbox generations but they come out about the same time & Xbox’s name scheme is wack. 

[Lilninjsways]

5 minutes ago, fpo said:

Speculation from rumors and how many console generations have worked. Xbox og 2001-2006. 5 years. 360 2006-2009~ 360 update 2009-2013. 7~ years. 

 

Xbox one 2013-2015~ Xbox one update 2015-? 

 

Every generation is about 5 years, even modern ones. I know I said PS5 and mentioned Xbox generations but they come out about the same time & Xbox’s name scheme is wack. 

oh i see thanks for explaining