Help Decide CPU

[_ashwin_ram]

building a pc. 

use case: web surfing, 1080p streaming, coding in c++ and python, light gaming at 1080p medium settings( mostly car games and fps, not AAA though)

help me decide between ryzen 7 1800x and the new shiny core i5 8600. 

I will pair both with one 8gb stick. 

 

[Slottr]

Ryzen, though if you want to save some money, a 1700 will do just fine

[Jurrunio]

the cheapest 8th gen i5

[_ashwin_ram]

Just now, Jurrunio said:

the cheapest 8th gen i5

why should i go with the i5?  with the ryzen I can overclock it slightly and have the extra threads.

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2 minutes ago, _ashwin_ram said:

use case: web surfing, 1080p streaming, coding in c++ and python, light gaming at 1080p medium settings( mostly car games and fps, not AAA though)

a ryzen for sure, since you are quite productive and not having a high end GPU, the cores & threads wont disappoint you.

BTW see if you can get R7 1700 and OC for similar performance.

 

and  one 8gb stick ram is not recommended , just get a pair of anything

[_ashwin_ram]

Just now, dgsddfgdfhgs said:

a ryzen for sure, since you are quite productive and not having a high end GPU, the cores & threads wont disappoint you.

BTW see if you can get R7 1700 and OC for similar performance.

 

and  one 8gb stick ram is not recommended , just get a pair of anything

thanks. I'm planning on getting a mobo with just 2 ram sticks. I'll have one 8gb stick at 2666 or above and upgrade it later. will it bottleneck. I'm aware ryzen benefits from high speed memory.

[Srishunbagasundaran]

I don't think you shoud get the i5. I strearm on an i5-8600k +16gb ram + 1080 gpu and I'm not getting smooth 720p 60fps using the cpu. I suggest going Ryzen, factoring the overclock it probably is way better than the i5 for streaming.

[Jurrunio]

3 minutes ago, _ashwin_ram said:

why should i go with the i5?  with the ryzen I can overclock it slightly and have the extra threads.

because you only have a single stick of memory, and I assume it's a slow ~2400MHz one

 

if you can save some money by using a cheaper Ryzen 7 instead and buy another stick of RAM, then Ryzen is better.

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Just now, _ashwin_ram said:

I'll have one 8gb stick at 2666 or above and upgrade it later

From the video reviews(1.5 years ago...), 3000mhz was the sweat spot 

[_ashwin_ram]

1 minute ago, Srishunbagasundaran said:

I don't think you shoud get the i5. I strearm on an i5-8600k +16gb ram + 1080 gpu and I'm not getting smooth 720p 60fps using the cpu. I suggest going Ryzen, factoring the overclock it probably is better than the i5 for streaming.

just went through your pc specs. nice hardware man. thankss..

[_ashwin_ram]

also applications like chrome, office and vs code benefit from faster cores than multiple right?

games now support multiple cores. 

[Srishunbagasundaran]

Just now, _ashwin_ram said:

just went through your pc specs. nice hardware man. thankss..

all g

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2 minutes ago, _ashwin_ram said:

also applications like chrome, office and vs code benefit from faster cores than multiple right?

games now support multiple cores. 

with more cores nowadays, programs are not well utilized and not quite efficient....

but the task you mention are all light tasks, they use only very little cpu power compared to ryzen. 

ryzen is definitely overkill for these purpose

[Turtle Rig]

Get the i5 8600 or Ryzen 7.  ashwin I don't know why your not getting a sustained 60fps hmmmm.  I get a sustained 60fps in Quake Champions and Unreal Tournament with my pos video card.  Also the CPU usage is 15 percent avg on both games.  Theres like 85 percent sitting there doing nothing.

[_ashwin_ram]

1 minute ago, dgsddfgdfhgs said:

with more cores nowadays, programs are not well utilized and not quite efficient....

but the task you mention are all light tasks, they use only very little cpu power compared to ryzen. 

ryzen is definitely overkill for these purpose

what about streaming. 1080p. just youtube or netflix.

[Turtle Rig]

For me youtube full screen or netflix takes up couple percent CPU power.  Maybe 8 percent or so. 

[_ashwin_ram]

Just now, Turtle Rig said:

For me youtube full screen or netflix takes up couple percent CPU power.  Maybe 8 percent or so. 

ahh. thanks a lot. will go with the i5 8600(k). any idea when the 9th gen releases??

[Turtle Rig]

I believe next month, but I wouldn't put my life on it, but that is what Ive been hearing.

[Srishunbagasundaran]

4 minutes ago, _ashwin_ram said:

what about streaming. 1080p. just youtube or netflix.

So, I was under the impression by streaming you meant streaming to twitch/youtube. Not, watching netflix, my bad. The i5 is definitley good for gaming.

[_ashwin_ram]

Just now, Turtle Rig said:

I believe next month, but I wouldn't put my life on it, but that is what Ive been hearing.

yeah me too. minor improvement but with the release of the 9th gen cpus, the price of the 8th gen cpus will decrease right? 

 

[_ashwin_ram]

Just now, Srishunbagasundaran said:

So, I was under the impression by streaming you meant streaming to twitch/youtube. Not, watching netflix, my bad. The i5 is definitley good for gaming.

I should've been clear. thanks 

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1 minute ago, _ashwin_ram said:

yeah me too. minor improvement but with the release of the 9th gen cpus, the price of the 8th gen cpus will decrease right? 

just wait and see, imo just another disappointment of the year,

but really going for i5 6 cores for streaming? good luck then

[_ashwin_ram]

Just now, dgsddfgdfhgs said:

just wait and see, imo just another disappointment of the year,

but really going for i5 6 cores for streaming? good luck then

netflix at 1080p . 

[Srishunbagasundaran]

1 minute ago, _ashwin_ram said:

I should've been clear. thanks 

it's all good.

But yeah, i5 is good for gaming and 8gigs ram is technically enough, but go for 16 if you can. Chrome uses a lot of ram, it's kinda ridiculous.

[_ashwin_ram]

Just now, Srishunbagasundaran said:

it's all good.

But yeah, i5 is good for gaming and 8gigs ram is technically enough, but go for 16 if you can. Chrome uses a lot of ram, it's kinda ridiculous.

thanks.  and hey i"m from India too xP. Namaste _/\_