intel optatne 32gb should i buy?

[sideqcktv]

should i get the intel optane i have windows on my hdd i heard it makes a hdd faster then a ssd is this true? instead of buying a m2 ssd and resetting my pc is this easier? its also cheaper

[r2724r16]

Intel Optane is a waste of money, buy a "real" SSD instead. What's your max budget?

[aezakmi]

Just now, sideqcktv said:

heard it makes a hdd faster then a ssd is this true?

no

[sideqcktv]

Just now, r2724r16 said:

Intel Optane is a waste of money, buy a "real" SSD instead. What's your max budget?

i was going to get a m2 970 500gb for 150 or the intel optane for 50 considering tech tubers say it speeds your hdd like crazy

[sideqcktv]

Just now, aezakmi said:

no

whats it do then

[r2724r16]

2 minutes ago, sideqcktv said:

i was going to get a m2 970 500gb for 150 or the intel optane for 50 considering tech tubers say it speeds your hdd like crazy

Buy a MX500 1TB for $160 USD: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/h3tQzy/crucial-mx500-1tb-25-solid-state-drive-ct1000mx500ssd1

 

And btw, most of the tech tubers saying that it speeds up your HDD are sponsored, so obviously they'll promote Intel Optane. 

[sideqcktv]

1 minute ago, r2724r16 said:

Buy a MX500 1TB for $160 USD: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/h3tQzy/crucial-mx500-1tb-25-solid-state-drive-ct1000mx500ssd1

why a reg ssd over a m2?

[aezakmi]

Just now, sideqcktv said:

whats it do then

just adds more cache to the mechanical drive

which is pointless compared to an actual SSD

 

and fyi samsung is the apple of ssds, does less and costs more

crucial, ocz or sandisk are the real ones

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, sideqcktv said:

why a reg ssd over a m2?

you get more space for the same money. The extra speed won't help you much here.

[sideqcktv]

Just now, aezakmi said:

just adds more cache to the mechanical drive

which is pointless compared to an actual SSD

 

and fyi samsung is the apple of ssds, does less and costs more

crucial, ocz or sandisk are the real ones

but i have windows on my hdd i didnt really want to reset my pc and put it on a ssd

[r2724r16]

1 minute ago, sideqcktv said:

why a reg ssd over a m2?

M.2 is a form factor, it doesn't specify minimum speeds. You don't need a PCIe SSD like a Samsung 970 EVO/PRO unless you're using the SSD as a scratch disk or something. SATA SSDs are plenty fast for 99% of people. 

[sideqcktv]

1 minute ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

you get more space for the same money. The extra speed won't help you much here.

faster boots on long loading programs and games

[aezakmi]

Just now, sideqcktv said:

but i have windows on my hdd i didnt really want to reset my pc and put it on a ssd

u don't have to reset anything, did the same comment in another topic a few mins ago, go here

 

[Spotty]

4 minutes ago, sideqcktv said:

i was going to get a m2 970 500gb for 150 or the intel optane for 50 considering tech tubers say it speeds your hdd like crazy

Don't get either of those. Get a SATA based SSD like a 500GB Crucial MX500 or WD Blue SSD for $90.

 

1 minute ago, sideqcktv said:

why a reg ssd over a m2?

You can get M.2 SATA based SSDs. They don't have the same read/write performance as the NVMe SSDs like the Samsung 960, but they're still far faster than HDDs due to much lower latency, and for most purposes you won't notice a huge difference between SATA SSDs and NVMe SSDs unless you're doing work that requires ultra fast storage read/writes. SATA based SSDs are also considerably cheaper than NVMe SSDs as well.

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820250091&cm_re=wd_blue_ssd-_-20-250-091-_-Product

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820156177&cm_re=mx500-_-20-156-177-_-Product

[sideqcktv]

2 minutes ago, aezakmi said:

u don't have to reset anything, did the same comment in another topic a few mins ago, go here

 

can i move just windows instead of whole drive?

[Electronics Wizardy]

4 minutes ago, sideqcktv said:

faster boots on long loading programs and games

the difference between nvme drives and sata for desktop workloads is tiny, like less than 5% difference most of the time. Boot times are often the same as nvme drives take longer due to pcie init time.

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, sideqcktv said:

can i move just windows instead of whole drive?

You can't just copy the windows folder.

 

If you just want to move windows then doa reinstall.

[sideqcktv]

5 minutes ago, Spotty said:

Don't get either of those. Get a SATA based SSD like a 500GB Crucial MX500 or WD Blue SSD for $90.

 

You can get M.2 SATA based SSDs. They don't have the same read/write performance as the NVMe SSDs like the Samsung 960, but they're still far faster than HDDs due to much lower latency, and for most purposes you won't notice a huge difference between SATA SSDs and NVMe SSDs unless you're doing work that requires ultra fast storage read/writes. SATA based SSDs are also considerably cheaper than NVMe SSDs as well.

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820250091&cm_re=wd_blue_ssd-_-20-250-091-_-Product

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820156177&cm_re=mx500-_-20-156-177-_-Product

 

9 minutes ago, aezakmi said:

just adds more cache to the mechanical drive

which is pointless compared to an actual SSD

 

and fyi samsung is the apple of ssds, does less and costs more

crucial, ocz or sandisk are the real ones

but also for hdd speeds considering i have most my programs and windows on it id rather just do the intel optane instead of reinstalling every program on my pc i have a 480 pny ssd with my games on but thats it

[Spotty]

Just now, sideqcktv said:

 

but also for hdd speeds considering i have most my programs and windows on it id rather just do the intel optane instead of reinstalling every program on my pc i have a 480 pny ssd with my games on but thats it

You're doing it backwards. You should have programs and OS on the SSD and games on the HDD.

 

I went in to this in greater detail earlier today and explaining the process, I recommend reading the replies in this thread:

 

[sideqcktv]

1 minute ago, Spotty said:

You're doing it backwards. You should have programs and OS on the SSD and games on the HDD.

 

I went in to this in greater detail earlier today and explaining the process, I recommend reading the replies in this thread:

 

my hdd is 5 years old my ssd is half a year old thats why i have it as it is

[aezakmi]

13 minutes ago, sideqcktv said:

my hdd is 5 years old my ssd is half a year old thats why i have it as it is

yeah but

 

OS installed to SSD = fast

OS installed to HDD = snail

[sideqcktv]

17 minutes ago, aezakmi said:

yeah but

 

OS installed to SSD = fast

OS installed to HDD = snail

but resetting pc is a hasle thats why i was asking about the intel optane to increase boot times austin evans uses it in his latest build