Rate this build.

[Sa1tama]

1080<1070Ti<1080Ti

Even with a 1080 Ti it would be a bottleneck.

The easiest way to imagine this is to imagine a Toyota Prius with an engine of a Ferrari.

With some money left from downgrading the GPU a bit, you could get a blazing fast 240gb M.2 SSD as well as a much better CPU cooler and a better PSU.

[GoldenLag]

20 minutes ago, _SAITAMA_ said:

1080<1070Ti<1080Ti

what on earth is this?

 

shouldnt it be 1070ti<1080<1080ti 

 

or does this mean something completely different?

[Sa1tama]

4 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

what on earth is this?

 

shouldnt it be 1070ti<1080<1080ti 

 

or does this mean something completely different?

Oops... typo. I meant

1070Ti>1080>1080Ti

[YourNewPalAlex]

1 hour ago, GoldenLag said:

Im dissapointed noone has pointed out the bad mobo. Get atleast an B450 PRO4 from ASrock or B450 Tomahawk From MSI.

 

The Prime boards from ASUS arent great for the money. Their VRM cooling is surprisingly bad

 

Get a 650/750 watt focus GOLD plus from Seasonic

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/64cMnQ/seasonic-focus-plus-gold-750w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ssr-750fx

Msi has bad vrms too lol, also why the high watt psu when its only 420W

[YourNewPalAlex]

1 hour ago, _SAITAMA_ said:

1080<1070Ti<1080Ti

Even with a 1080 Ti it would be a bottleneck.

The easiest way to imagine this is to imagine a Toyota Prius with an engine of a Ferrari.

With some money left from downgrading the GPU a bit, you could get a blazing fast 240gb M.2 SSD as well as a much better CPU cooler and a better PSU.

Bad example. Imagine it like this you have an mx5. You turbo charge it. It goes like hell but because the gear rations are meant for 90hp and not 270hp. Your going to slow down, but not in acceleration, only in top speed. The mx5 is the pc, you put the 1080 ti in and you play games at high res so you get the most out of the performance. But in top speed which in this case is low res like 1080p the cpus gonna drag it down, in this case the gearing.

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, YourNewPalAlex said:

Msi has bad vrms too lol, also why the high watt psu when its only 420W

the new B450 tomahawk board is different from the B350. its a whole lot better with propper heatsinks. 

 

the higher wattage PSU due to

• its cheaper than the 650watt variant. for some reason it isnt anymore. 650 watt model is now cheaper, same set of points still apply
• its relativly cheap, and high quality. you can run with the 550watt model, but it has less powerconnectors. 
• its good value.  

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WrNypg/seasonic-focus-plus-gold-650w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ssr-650fx

650watt version

[GoldenLag]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3LTXJ8

 

overall better build, but it costs some extra. he could go for a Vega 64-freesync combo, but he will be sacrifising performance

 

[YourNewPalAlex]

2 hours ago, GoldenLag said:

the new B450 tomahawk board is different from the B350. its a whole lot better with propper heatsinks. 

 

the higher wattage PSU due to

• its cheaper than the 650watt variant. for some reason it isnt anymore. 650 watt model is now cheaper, same set of points still apply
• its relativly cheap, and high quality. you can run with the 550watt model, but it has less powerconnectors. 
• its good value.  

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WrNypg/seasonic-focus-plus-gold-650w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ssr-650fx

650watt version

Okay fair point on the mobo but whats with the psu?

 

Its 10 bucks more expensive then a g2. Like sure maybe its better value but do you really need it? Will it change if its a 550W or a 10$ 650W?

 

10$ may not be alot but one by one you made the build 100$ more by adding 10$ to literally everything thats not the cpu and gpu. The hdd is a 50$ 2TB, the SSD is 60$ the mobo is 80$ where there is a cheaper mobo which is also an asrock budget mobo idk why you didn't use it, the psu is 70$ like dude i know its a small amount but it really adds up to alot.

2 hours ago, GoldenLag said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3LTXJ8

 

overall better build, but it costs some extra. he could go for a Vega 64-freesync combo, but he will be sacrifising performance

 

 

[YourNewPalAlex]

2 hours ago, GoldenLag said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3LTXJ8

 

overall better build, but it costs some extra. he could go for a Vega 64-freesync combo, but he will be sacrifising performance

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jnTddX

 

Uses a budget asrock mobo, ssd is the 27$ one beside the 1TB. Theres the same performing build but for literally 100$ less. 

[GoldenLag]

4 minutes ago, YourNewPalAlex said:

Okay fair point on the mobo but whats with the psu?

 

Its 10 bucks more expensive then a g2. Like sure maybe its better value but do you really need it? Will it change if its a 550W or a 10$ 650W?

 

10$ may not be alot but one by one you made the build 100$ more by adding 10$ to literally everything thats not the cpu and gpu. The hdd is a 50$ 2TB, the SSD is 60$ the mobo is 80$ where there is a cheaper mobo which is also a pro4 idk why you didn't use it, the psu is 70$ like dude i know its a small amount but it really adds up to alot.

 

the PSU is one of the better PSUs in the PSU tier and is offered at a relativily low price. tbh he can just run with a corsair cx 650 (2017) though its not modular its also a good cheap PSU. 

 

there is a cheaper PRO4, but its B350 instead of B450 risking incompatibility. he can run with the B350, but it can become a hassle if it has the wrong BIOS. 

 

why buy a 1TB HDD when you can have a 2 TB one for very little extra, especially for this kind of build? the SSD is a really good one with room for a couple of games and has cache to make it more nippy and overall better. 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor  ($165.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($82.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($134.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($64.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.09 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB DUKE OC Video Card  ($644.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Cougar - MX330-X ATX Mid Tower Case  ($31.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($43.98 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: Acer - Predator XB241YU 23.8" 2560x1440 165Hz Monitor  ($399.99 @ B&H) 
Total: $1628.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-21 09:57 EDT-0400

 

ive done this for quite a while. there is reasoning behind everything

[GoldenLag]

4 minutes ago, YourNewPalAlex said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jnTddX

 

Uses a budget asrock mobo, ssd is the 27$ one beside the 1TB. Theres the same performing build but for literally 100$ less. 

budget ASrock board does not have heatsink over all the VRMs, making it worse overclocker and will fair worse with higher end CPUs even at stock. 1TB HDD is fine, the SSD is fine for a budget SSD. not a great one overall. there is allways ways to cut cost, but at some point its not worth it. 

 

Edit

SSD cache: the reason why Samsung and Crucial SSDs cost more (and a tiny bit to do with endurance and overprovisioning)