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So this is my first time building a PC and I'm looking at about an 800 dollar budget. I've spent some time on PCPartPicker.com and just keep asking myself the same question. Will this thing be a piece of junk? Am I overlooking a serious bottleneck? Should I go for ATX or MicroATX? Will my CPU not be compatible with my motherboard? If currently, I'm thinking about this build.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Wb4rRJ

 

Will this be able to run modern games at a decent FPS? I'm not looking for the highest gaming experience possible (obviously). But can this thing put up 60 FPS in most modern games? And if not please tell me I'm an idiot and rework my whole build. I will defer to the good people of the LTT forum. Any suggestions are welcome. And thanks in advance for anyone who puts together something in PCPartPicker and spending the time to do that. I really appreciate any and all help.

 

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Build is pretty unbalanced. You have an APU but picked out a GPU as well, you've got thermal paste which isn't needed, a horrific PSU, a motherboard that still might not work (although slim chances) with that CPU. Additionally you've got a $90 case and yet only put $60 towards a pretty horrible monitor?

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($149.99 @ Walmart)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($71.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($85.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Patriot - Ignite M2 240GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING Video Card  ($269.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($23.98 @ Newegg)
Monitor: HP - 22cwa 21.5" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor  ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Redragon - K552-R KUMARA Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($31.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $818.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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11 minutes ago, HolySloth said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Wb4rRJ

Instead of building this PC, buy a used Dell Optiplex with a quad core CPU off ebay for $200, a refurbished GTX 970 for $200, a HP 22cwa, and a SSD and a new HDD.

 

Buy a GTX 970 for $200 from here: https://www.evga.com/products/productlist.aspx?type=8

 

If you did what I said above, you can get the same performance as the PCPP list for around $600.

 

If you want to use your entire $800 budget, you can buy a refurbished GTX 1070 from EVGA's website.

CPU: Intel Core i7-950 Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R CPU Cooler: NZXT HAVIK 140 RAM: Corsair Dominator DDR3-1600 (1x2GB), Crucial DDR3-1600 (2x4GB), Crucial Ballistix Sport DDR3-1600 (1x4GB) GPU: ASUS GeForce GTX 770 DirectCU II 2GB SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 2.5" 1TB HDDs: WD Green 3.5" 1TB, WD Blue 3.5" 1TB PSU: Corsair AX860i & CableMod ModFlex Cables Case: Fractal Design Meshify C TG (White) Fans: 2x Dynamic X2 GP-12 Monitors: LG 24GL600F, Samsung S24D390 Keyboard: Logitech G710+ Mouse: Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum Mouse Pad: Steelseries QcK Audio: Bose SoundSport In-Ear Headphones

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4 minutes ago, Lurick said:

Build is pretty unbalanced. You have an APU but picked out a GPU as well, you've got thermal paste which isn't needed, a horrific PSU, a motherboard that still might not work (although slim chances) with that CPU. Additionally you've got a $90 case and yet only put $60 towards a pretty horrible monitor?

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($149.99 @ Walmart)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($71.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($85.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Patriot - Ignite M2 240GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING Video Card  ($269.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($23.98 @ Newegg)
Monitor: HP - 22cwa 21.5" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor  ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Redragon - K552-R KUMARA Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($31.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $818.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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5 minutes ago, r2724r16 said:

Instead of building this PC, buy a used Dell Optiplex with a quad core CPU off ebay for $200, a refurbished GTX 970 for $200, a HP 22cwa, and a SSD and a new HDD.

 

Buy a GTX 970 for $200 from here: https://www.evga.com/products/productlist.aspx?type=8

 

If you did what I said above, you can get the same performance as the PCPP list for around $600.

 

If you want to use your entire $800 budget, you can buy a refurbished GTX 1070 from EVGA's website.


...and? What about the PSU? Anybody who buys a B-STOCK 970 for $200 over a NEW GOOD DESIGN RX 580 8 GB for $230 is out of their mind.

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13 minutes ago, Lurick said:

Build is pretty unbalanced. You have an APU but picked out a GPU as well, you've got thermal paste which isn't needed, a horrific PSU, a motherboard that still might not work (although slim chances) with that CPU. Additionally you've got a $90 case and yet only put $60 towards a pretty horrible monitor?

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($149.99 @ Walmart)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($71.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($85.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Patriot - Ignite M2 240GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING Video Card  ($269.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($23.98 @ Newegg)
Monitor: HP - 22cwa 21.5" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor  ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Redragon - K552-R KUMARA Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($31.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $818.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-20 15:56 EDT-0400

Wouldn't the RX 580 be a better option actually?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($149.99 @ Walmart) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($71.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($85.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Patriot - Ignite M2 240GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($54.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 580 8GB ARMOR OC Video Card  ($229.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($23.98 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: HP - 22cwa 21.5" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Keyboard: Redragon - K552-R KUMARA Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($31.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $778.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-20 16:11 EDT-0400

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I own that board and that CPU, they're decent. Though, I'd change a few things. Especially the keyboard. Redragon is known to come with crap software and build quality. Try this, the monitor is Freesync supportive and the keyboard is much better as well: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vF6Ymq

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1 hour ago, HolySloth said:

Could I meet you half way with the peripherals? something like this?

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yjf3gw

you're wasting money on an expensive board, get a pro4 and use the money for a 1600. the BR is low quality, get a CX instead.

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor  ($165.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($69.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($134.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 580 8GB PULSE Video Card  ($239.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: SAMA - Maxcool-BK-15LEDLight MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($47.58 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ B&H) 
Monitor: Acer - KG221Q 21.5" 1920x1080 75Hz Monitor  ($109.89 @ OutletPC) 
Keyboard: Gigabyte - FORCE K83 Wired Standard Keyboard  ($38.89 @ Amazon) 
Other: Windows 10 Pro ($14.00)
Total: $871.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-20 21:04 EDT-0400

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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I'm going for an ATX motherboard because I am looking to expand in the future. But here are my top final two picks from what you guys have told me. Should I go for 

 

Option 1: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nqTXJ8

Or

Option 2: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VKWVmq

 

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Don't go for option 1, it's awful compared to what else suggested here. The APU lacks solder inside the IHS and SMT as well so it only has 4 threads. It certainly performs much worse than the Ryzen 2600 and doesn't make sense to buy with a GPU.

At least get option 2 but I don't know why you want that MSI board and that GPU. While I own the Gaming Pro, it's not exactly all that great of a board. The Gigabyte I linked to has an M.2 shield and is just better over all IMO for the same price. The Armor cards aren't all that great either, Armor is not a good cooler of MSI generally. Stick with something else. The other bits don't look too good either. Rather cheaply built PSU, garbage keyboard...

The build you came up with the IPS monitor and the Gigabyte board compared to mine was great, and only costed like $40 more than this final option #2. Not sure why you downgraded it all, just buy that build. You can't go wrong with it.

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51 minutes ago, HolySloth said:

Ok so my ideas now are these:

 

Option 1: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/HolySloth/saved/f3k9Jx

 

Option 2: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/HolySloth/saved/QtBjyc

go with the first build, but since you're getting a 580, get a freesync monitor to go with it.

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1 hour ago, Motifator said:

Not as expensive as G-Sync, Freesync is a free standard hence the name, AMD doesn't get money from it. You're basically paying for the extra HZ and such. ;)

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Nv3H99/msi-optix-mag24c-236-1920x1080-144hz-monitor-optix-mag24c

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hqmxFT/aoc-monitor-g2260vwq6 this is listed on AMD's website as having freesync do you think this would work?

23 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

Get some 3000MHz - 3200MHz ram. That 2400 kit will hurt performance.

Will it I have heard that as long as it's over 2000 MHz it's fine? I'm not looking for the highest end system here

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