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[BoggerBoss]

im building my first gaming pc. i only have 8 gb of ram because ram is soo god damn expensive and i do plan on buying more later on. i also havnt got anything for cooling yet beacuse i have no idea what im looking for. i would like liquid cooling though. 

CPU - Intel CoffeeLake Core i7 8700K Six Core, 3.7Ghz/4.7Ghz, 12MB LGA1151 Unlocked Processor, No Fan

Graphics Card - MSI GeForce GTX1080 ARMOR 8G OC Gaming Video Card

Mother Board - Gigabyte B360 AORUS GAMING 3 WIFI, Intel B360, RGB Fusion, Dual M.2, WIFI, Gaming Motherboard

HDD - Seagate Barracuda ST2000DM006 2TB 64MB 6Gb/s SATA3

Case - Cooler Master MasterBox Lite 5 RGB Mid-Tower ATX Case

Ram - 1x8GB Team Elite 2400MHz DDR4 RAM

Monitor - Samsung U28E590D 28" UHD 4K 1ms Monitor

[TheGlenlivet]

3 minutes ago, BoggerBoss said:

im building my first gaming pc. i only have 8 gb of ram because ram is soo god damn expensive and i do plan on buying more later on. i also havnt got anything for cooling yet beacuse i have no idea what im looking for. i would like liquid cooling though. 

CPU - Intel CoffeeLake Core i7 8700K Six Core, 3.7Ghz/4.7Ghz, 12MB LGA1151 Unlocked Processor, No Fan

Graphics Card - MSI GeForce GTX1080 ARMOR 8G OC Gaming Video Card

Mother Board - Gigabyte B360 AORUS GAMING 3 WIFI, Intel B360, RGB Fusion, Dual M.2, WIFI, Gaming Motherboard

HDD - Seagate Barracuda ST2000DM006 2TB 64MB 6Gb/s SATA3

Case - 

Saving...Cooler Master MasterBox Lite 5 RGB Mid-Tower ATX Case

Don't put an 8700K on a b360.  You can only overclock with the Z370 series boards so that would be a waste.

[BoggerBoss]

Just now, TheGlenlivet said:

Don't put an 8700K on a b360.  You can only overclock with the Z370 series boards so that would be a waste.

im not looking to overclock

[Lord Blue of Screenshire]

I'd at least opt for an SSD for your OS. If you want to save some bucks go for a SATA-based one, but an NVME one could be a worthwhile investment for the future.

[TheGlenlivet]

1 minute ago, BoggerBoss said:

im not looking to overclock

Then get the 8700 non K.  It's cheaper too.

Also you should get a small (250GB) SSD to put your OS on and keep your files on the HDD you have.

[Lord Blue of Screenshire]

6 minutes ago, BoggerBoss said:

because ram is soo god damn expensive and i do plan on buying more later on.

Where do you live, may make you a pcpartpicker list.

[BoggerBoss]

1 minute ago, Lord Blue of Screenshire said:

I'd at least opt for an SSD for your OS. If you want to save some bucks go for a SATA-based one, but an NVME one could be a worthwhile investment for the future.

can you recommend something more specific? i only learnt most of what i know about building pc's in the last 24 hours from Linus on youtube

[BoggerBoss]

2 minutes ago, Lord Blue of Screenshire said:

Where do you live, may make you a pcpartpicker list.

new zealand

[BoggerBoss]

4 minutes ago, TheGlenlivet said:

Then get the 8700 non K.  It's cheaper too.

Also you should get a small (250GB) SSD to put your OS on and keep your files on the HDD you have.

alright thanks. hows this SSD? https://www.mightyape.co.nz/product/250gb-samsung-860-evo-ssd-550mb-read520mb-write/27574791?gclid=Cj0KCQjw5NnbBRDaARIsAJP-YR9BAbiDtYC_9SK_gDPvZAs8ezKEkNk3qQZlv6VWJ5okcaOh8So5OQQaAv_HEALw_wcB

[TheGlenlivet]

1 minute ago, BoggerBoss said:

alright thanks. hows this SSD? https://www.mightyape.co.nz/product/250gb-samsung-860-evo-ssd-550mb-read520mb-write/27574791?gclid=Cj0KCQjw5NnbBRDaARIsAJP-YR9BAbiDtYC_9SK_gDPvZAs8ezKEkNk3qQZlv6VWJ5okcaOh8So5OQQaAv_HEALw_wcB

Very good.  I've had very good luck with Samsung SSDs.

If you are looking for a sata (the one with the cables not the one that plugs directly onto the motherboard) then this is a good one.

I don't know NZ $$$ though so not sure if the price is good.

[BoggerBoss]

1 minute ago, TheGlenlivet said:

Very good.  I've had very good luck with Samsung SSDs.

If you are looking for a sata (the one with the cables not the one that plugs directly onto the motherboard) then this is a good one.

I don't know NZ $$$ though so not sure if the price is good.

its not too much. also thanks about the cpu. that pretty much makes up for the price of the ssd

[Lord Blue of Screenshire]

22 minutes ago, BoggerBoss said:

can you recommend something more specific? i only learnt most of what i know about building pc's in the last 24 hours from Linus on youtube

Hard drives (HDD), like the Seagate Barracuda, are rather slow. Nowadays we tend to store the files Windows needs to boot on a faster Solid State Drive (SSD). Solid State Drives come in different forms. Some look like laptop hard drive (2.5") whilst others look like sticks of gum (M.2). The speeds which SSDs can operate at differ as well. Some use the SATA interface (SATA3 is caped at 6 Gbps) others use the NVME protocol which are even faster. The 2.5" drives always operate at SATA3 speeds, M.2 drives with two "gaps" use the M.2 interface but only run at SATA3 speeds and the M.2 drives with only one "gap" run at the faster NVME speeds.

 

This is a 2.5" drive running at SATA3 speeds:

 

This is an M.2 drive running at SATA3 speeds:

 

This is an M.2 drive running at NVME speed:

[keskparane]

Don't get the K CPU. Stock without overclock is still fast and never any hassles.

Get 2666 mhz ram. It's what the CPU is rated for.

Get an SSD. The 860 Evo's are great. I think WD are doing some good options now too. Get NVME if you can.

I would stick with air cooling. Far more simple. Easy to change parts, etc.

Is there any point in getting a 4k monitor if 28"? I wouldn't have thought so, but I don't know.

 

[Lord Blue of Screenshire]

10 minutes ago, keskparane said:

I think WD are doing some good options now too.

If you're thinking of buying an NVME SSD from Western Digital, do keep an eye out for how old the SSD is. I know that both the previous generation and the current generation are being sold. The current generation has read speeds up to 3400 MBps, note the capital B here, whilst the previous generation only has read speeds up to 2050 MBps.

[Lord Blue of Screenshire]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($472.90 @ Playtech) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - PURE ROCK 51.7 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($59.99 @ Mighty Ape) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B360 AORUS Gaming 3 WIFI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($199.95 @ Computer Lounge) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($167.09 @ Ascent Technology) 
Storage: Kingston - A400 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($86.02 @ Aquila Technology) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($104.50 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Video Card  ($879.00 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($122.98 @ Ascent Technology) 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($172.00 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
Total: $2264.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-18 07:31 NZST+1200

 

New Zealand does seem to be expensive indeed!

I went with a modular PSU as it's a case with tempered glass and you may want to sleeve it one day.

[BoggerBoss]

44 minutes ago, Lord Blue of Screenshire said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($472.90 @ Playtech) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - PURE ROCK 51.7 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($59.99 @ Mighty Ape) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B360 AORUS Gaming 3 WIFI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($199.95 @ Computer Lounge) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($167.09 @ Ascent Technology) 
Storage: Kingston - A400 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($86.02 @ Aquila Technology) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($104.50 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Video Card  ($879.00 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($122.98 @ Ascent Technology) 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($172.00 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
Total: $2264.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-18 07:31 NZST+1200

 

New Zealand does seem to be expensive indeed!

I went with a modular PSU as it's a case with tempered glass and you may want to sleeve it one day.

awesome. thank you lots. the price you have got there is only $10 more than i had from where i was getting all my stuff from

 

[BoggerBoss]

48 minutes ago, Lord Blue of Screenshire said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($472.90 @ Playtech) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - PURE ROCK 51.7 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($59.99 @ Mighty Ape) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B360 AORUS Gaming 3 WIFI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($199.95 @ Computer Lounge) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($167.09 @ Ascent Technology) 
Storage: Kingston - A400 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($86.02 @ Aquila Technology) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($104.50 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Video Card  ($879.00 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($122.98 @ Ascent Technology) 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($172.00 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
Total: $2264.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-18 07:31 NZST+1200

 

New Zealand does seem to be expensive indeed!

I went with a modular PSU as it's a case with tempered glass and you may want to sleeve it one day.

also. this is probably a stupid question but does the case come with the fans?

 

[keskparane]

4 hours ago, BoggerBoss said:

also. this is probably a stupid question but does the case come with the fans?

 

There is a review in your original link which has some information about the fans.

My theory on cooling is front intake fans only. Let the air find it's own way out.

I remove 1 riser each from above and below the video card to allow an easy exit for the video card heat.

Spoiler

 

[LienusLateTips]

4 hours ago, BoggerBoss said:

also. this is probably a stupid question but does the case come with the fans?

 

Yes.

 

[LienusLateTips]

3 minutes ago, keskparane said:

There is a review in your original link which has some information about the fans.

My theory on cooling is front intake fans only. Let the air find it's own way out.

I remove 1 riser each from above and below the video card to allow an easy exit for the video card heat.

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It's usually better from my experience to have at least one fan out. I've tested a bit with my 8700K/R7 370 setup lately.

[keskparane]

2 minutes ago, LienusLateTips said:

It's usually better from my experience to have at least one fan out. I've tested a bit with my 8700K/R7 370 setup lately.

My concern is that with an extraction fan it may create a negative pressure spot near the video card and draw in some warm air from the back (especially with the riser blanks removed around the card). I'm all about the positive pressure.

[LienusLateTips]

1 minute ago, keskparane said:

My concern is that with an extraction fan it may create a negative pressure spot near the video card and draw in some warm air from the back (especially with the riser blanks removed around the card). I'm all about the positive pressure.

Hot air goes up, so you'll be getting cold air from that area.

[keskparane]

11 minutes ago, LienusLateTips said:

Hot air goes up, so you'll be getting cold air from that area.

Not when the video card is pushing hot air out the back. 

And even if it was cold air it's not filtered from dust.

[LienusLateTips]

4 minutes ago, keskparane said:

Not when the video card is pushing hot air out the back. 

And even if it was cold air it's not filtered from dust.

I left my computer running in a construction zone, with two in the front and one in the back and when I came back after a month (travelling while house renovation) was nearly dust free, but the filter was disgusting

[keskparane]

1 minute ago, LienusLateTips said:

I left my computer running in a construction zone, with two in the front and one in the back and when I came back after a month (travelling while house renovation) was nearly dust free, but the filter was disgusting

My other concern is drawing air up from the video card that would be more inclined to exit straight out the empty riser slots without an exhaust fan behind the CPU.