Rendering/Gaming Build.

[FerretNexus]

Ayy

Just finished planning my first build.  I plan on using it for rendering simulations and some esports titles.  <1000 Budget, <900 if possible.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qwsLFt

--SPECS---

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 - Good enough for what I plan on doing.

CPU Cooler:  Wraith Spire - Stock Ryzen 5 Cooler.

Motherboard:  MSI B350 PC Mate - I dislike the Tomahawk's red, and this is cheaper.  Plan on overclocking.

Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB DDR4 - 3000 - Cheap 16GB RAM

SSD: Inland 240 GB SSD - For windows and some games.

HHD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 7200RPM HHD

GPU: Sapphire Radeon RX 580 8GB Nitro+

Case: NZXT H500 White

PSU: EVGA 650W 80+ Gold Semi-Modular

WIFI: Asus PCE-AC51 PCIe 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac

Suggestions welcome

[DrMacintosh]

Tbh looks like you've got a competent build already. 

[FerretNexus]

Thanks. First build, just wondering if I was missing something glaringly obvious.

Wouldn't be the first time I missed something like that.

[seon123]

MSI's B350 boards aren't very good, especially for overclocking. If you're just going to use the stock cooler and won't upgrade, the cheaper Pro4 would be fine. If you're going to upgrade to a better cooler later, consider a better motherboard. 

There's a 1TB Toshiba HDD for $2 less than the WD one. There's absolutely no reason to pay extra for the WD one. 

If possible, don't use wi-fi. Try to use an ethernet cable, or use a Homeplug/powerline system. 

[FerretNexus]

Would you recommend a better chipset or a better motherboard?  Ethernet is terrible in my house, not an option.

[FerretNexus]

Updated to a ASRock B450 Pro4 and a Ryzen 5 2600.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/FerretNexus/saved/2JJbXL

[ryanregowhite]

11 minutes ago, FerretNexus said:

Updated to a ASRock B450 Pro4 and a Ryzen 5 2600.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/FerretNexus/saved/2JJbXL

I would recommend an Asus board yes they cost more but it is worth it 

[seon123]

4 minutes ago, ryanregowhite said:

I would recommend an Asus board yes they cost more but it is worth it 

That's objectively not true in most cases. All of Asus' B350 and B450 boards use the same 4 phase VRM, essentially making the $115 B350F the same thing as the B350M-E, just with heatsinks and more RGB. 

5 hours ago, FerretNexus said:

Would you recommend a better chipset or a better motherboard?  Ethernet is terrible in my house, not an option.

A better motherboard. MSI has updated their 4 phase VRM on B450, so those might be decent, if they have heatsinks. @dave_k is the AM4 guy. 

How can ethernet be terrible? How is it messed up?

[FerretNexus]

53 minutes ago, seon123 said:

How is it messed up?

Port on the wall behind my desk plain dosn't work last time I checked.  Next working port is way to far away.

Is there a difference between the B450 Gaming Plus/B450-A PRO/B450 Tomahawk?  Afaict its just rgb and colors.

[seon123]

7 minutes ago, FerretNexus said:

Port on the wall behind my desk plain dosn't work last time I checked.  Next working port is way to far away.

You could just run a cable. Or the Homeplug/powerline option, which uses the electrical cables. 

[Herman Mcpootis]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3GHz 8-Core Processor  ($219.89 @ OutletPC) extra cores will help for rendering.
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($59.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: ADATA - XPG SX6000 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: ASRock - Radeon RX 580 8GB Phantom Gaming X Video Card  ($219.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox TD500 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($72.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA - 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($53.98 @ Newegg) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte - GC-WB867D-I REV 4.2 PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  ($33.88 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $904.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-11 23:02 EDT-0400

[FerretNexus]

3 hours ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($59.89 @ OutletPC) 

Is there a reason to go for this over the MSI?

 

3 hours ago, seon123 said:

powerline option, which uses the electrical cables. 

Huh,  I'll look into that.

[Herman Mcpootis]

2 minutes ago, FerretNexus said:

Is there a reason to go for this over the MSI?

 

Huh,  I'll look into that.

better VRMS IIRC, and it's cheaper.

[Taf the Ghost]

3 hours ago, FerretNexus said:

Is there a reason to go for this over the MSI?

 

Huh,  I'll look into that.

Depending on your living situation, it might also be worth looking into running your own cabling. It can be a fun project on its own, and a skill you'll find useful the rest of your life. (Wiring is one of those things that actually comes up a lot more than anyone ever talks about, but mostly because no one thinks about it until it breaks.) 

 

Powerline-based systems can also work really well. Better than Wireless, not as good at direct cabling.

 

As for the build, looks fine. Some good suggestions for alternate parts in the thread. A B450 board might be worth it over a B350, but it just depends on quality & price.

[just_dave]

I recommend MSI B450 Tomahawk as a good budget option

[FerretNexus]

5 hours ago, dave_k said:

MSI B450 Tomahawk

NVM I can actually use the m.2 slot on the tomahawk.

;-; I thought you meant B350

[FerretNexus]

Updated List

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/FerretNexus/saved/2JJbXL

[SupremeGOAT]

Updated List

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vTnGbX
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vTnGbX/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor  ($165.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($129.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($167.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Inland - 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($42.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 580 8GB NITRO+ Video Card  ($284.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: NZXT - H500 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: EVGA - 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.89 @ OutletPC) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus - PCE-AC51 PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  ($29.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1005.59
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-12 13:34 EDT-0400

 

[brob]

23 minutes ago, FerretNexus said:

Updated List

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/FerretNexus/saved/2JJbXL

There is a small chance that two 1x8GB memory kits will not operate in dual channel. Besides, it doesn't offer any significant savings: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series, (the gray heatsink version is on the motherboard 1x00 cpu memory QVL) 

[FerretNexus]

1 hour ago, brob said:

motherboard 1x00 cpu memory QVL

Sorry, first build.  What does this mean?

[brob]

55 minutes ago, FerretNexus said:

Sorry, first build.  What does this mean?

Memory Qualified Vendor List - a list of memory kits that have been tested with the motherboard and cpu. This is important with 1st gen Ryzen cpu in particular as the memory controller is a bit picky. It's not that much of a problem with other current cpu.

[FerretNexus]

5 hours ago, brob said:

Memory Qualified Vendor List - a list of memory kits that have been tested with the motherboard and cpu. This is important with 1st gen Ryzen cpu in particular as the memory controller is a bit picky. It's not that much of a problem with other current cpu.

K, thanks.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/FerretNexus/saved/2JJbXL

Is there a good cheap alternative to the evga psu?  I don't need that high of a wattage anymore.