Gaming Build

[Lord Blue of Screenshire]

Just now, WereCat said:

Anything but that B450-A PRO ATX

I presumed so based on the price, but that doesn't feel professional. If I'm comparing motherboards what should I be looking at?

[WereCat]

25 minutes ago, Lord Blue of Screenshire said:

I presumed so based on the price, but that doesn't feel professional. If I'm comparing motherboards what should I be looking at?

Because it uses cheap components and lackluster VRM design that is nowhere near worth the price tag.

That board can barely sustain 6-core with a decent VRM temperature (decent = 90-110 *C). If you ever plan on upgrading your CPU later to 8-core or more then that board will not cut it.

If you got some time I recommend you to watch this to get an idea why.

[PurplDrank]

3 hours ago, WereCat said:

Comparable in what?

 

The Ryzen build is way better for Gaming AND Streaming at the same time.

The Intel build gets a slight edge in just gaming but not by much.

The Intel build gets a large edge when doing work in Adobe Premiere Pro since that particular software can get a huge advantage from the iGPU but in other video rendering software you are most likely better with the Ryzen since it has 6 extra threads.

The Ryzen can be overclocked, the Intel can't.

You should pick a bit more expensive 3000MHz/3200MHz RAM for the Ryzen system since it can benefit a lot from a faster RAM speeds (Samsung B-die is recommended).

Ryzen system seems to be quite cheaper which may even allow you to go from 1070ti to 1080ti (almost).

 

And that B450 AM4 ASUS Prime motherboard is an absolute trash.

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/4D7v6h/msi-x470-gaming-plus-atx-am4-motherboard-x470-gaming-plus

 

This one is more expensive (still overpriced like the ASUS one) but it is better in the sense that it is good enough for overclocking a 6-core.

I live in the united states and there is a store called microcenter where you can purchase a motherboard and cpu in a package together for a discount. Anyways, if you can do that you should find a Ryzen 2600x with an ASrock Taichi motherboard. If you can't then go with cats motherboard. MSI has always been good to me personally. 

[Lord Blue of Screenshire]

2 hours ago, WereCat said:

Because it uses cheap components and lackluster VRM design that is nowhere near worth the price tag.

That board can barely sustain 6-core with a decent VRM temperature (decent = 90-110 *C). If you ever plan on upgrading your CPU later to 8-core or more then that board will not cut it.

If you got some time I recommend you to watch this to get an idea why.

So should I look at the heatsinks at the top of the boards or should I use the table on the German website? In that table it seems only the very top-of-the-line boards get other parts.

 

I'm not planning on overclocking so do I really need those top of the line parts? If I do I found the following two boards:
- Gigabyte Aorus GA-AX370 Gaming 5 for € 160,90
( vs the Gigabyte GA-AX370 Gaming K5 for € 134,45)

- Asus Prime X370-Pro for € 151,95

( vs the Asus ROG STRIX B350-F Gaming for € 140,95)

 

Edit: I think I found a good deal, see next post, if you think it's not a good deal see the boards suggested here.

[Lord Blue of Screenshire]

After talking into account everything that has been said up untill this point I redid the list

- For the AMD build:

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor  (€159.00)  (€222.90 for X) *
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME X370-PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€137.85) *
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (€181.19 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (€88.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€54.00) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card  (€399.00 @ Caseking) 
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  (€89.90 @ Caseking) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€84.90 @ Caseking) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  (€129.99) 
Total: €1323.83 (€1386.83 for X)

 

* Bundled at Alternate which includes an updated BIOS and shipping

- For the Intel build: 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600 3.1GHz 6-Core Processor  (€214.90 @ Caseking) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  (€34.90 @ Caseking) 
Motherboard: Asus - Prime Z370-P ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€116.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) *
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (€181.19 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (€88.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€54.00) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card  (€399.00 @ Caseking) 
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  (€89.90 @ Caseking) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€84.90 @ Caseking) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  (€129.99) 
Total: €1393.77

 

* Would you say this is a good enough board? I can spot a heatsink at the top (VRM?), but no clue whether this is enough. Keep in mind that this chip is not overclockable.

Prices are now getting closer than before, which only makes the decision harder  (Especially between the i5-8600 and the Ryzen 5-2600X there almost is no price difference and are relatively close in performance as shown in the next spoiler.)

Spoiler

- 1080p

 

- 1440p (Intended use on the longer term)

 

-  2160p (4K)

 

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