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Why will you not go for ryzen? What's he using the PC for?

 

Also does he already have a case?
 

 

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what is his bugdet?

what rez does he plan to play at?

does he allready own a few components

whgat will he be using his build for?

 

why not ryzen? its allways a bad idea to not consider other options

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Nothing wrong with ryzen.

 

Though if he is just gaming the 8700k is great. If you wanted a better gpu though Id definitely go with ryzen.

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Just now, jeffmeyer5295 said:

Why will you not go for ryzen? What's he using the PC for?

 

Also does he already have a case?
 

Just gaming nothing speciall. I'm part of the blue team and wont switch over :P The case i think i go with a bequiet Silent Base 600 i think, im not sure yet 

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Do you already have a HDD for mass storage? The choices for the build are fascinating, but I wouldn't say they make much sense for a gaming build. 

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Just now, GoldenLag said:

what is his bugdet?

what rez does he plan to play at?

does he allready own a few components

whgat will he be using his build for?

 

why not ryzen? its allways a bad idea to not consider other options

He can spend like 1000-1200usd but no more.

the rez will be 3440 x 1440

i will use his ssd, hdd and his windows 10. but nothing more. the case im not sure on yet.

just some gaming.

Im stuck on the blue side of cpus so just my preferens

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Please don't pick that motherboard, the Asus Prime Z370-P is garbage. Its got crappy naked VRMs which will hurt if you ever want to overclock.

Go for something like an Asus ROG Strix Z370-F, avoid that Z370-P.

 

I talk from experience because I own a Z370-P.

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Just now, seoz said:

Please don't pick that motherboard, the Asus Prime Z370-P is garbage. Its got crappy naked VRMs which will hurt if you ever want to overclock.

Go for something like an Asus ROG Strix Z370-F, avoid that Z370-P.

 

I talk from experience because I own a Z370-P.

Thanks i will change it out! And im planing to overclock it so...

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor  ($169.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($81.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($139.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($97.85 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB D5X Video Card  ($479.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($84.98 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($81.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $1136.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-30 13:39 EDT-0400

 

Ryzen variant. 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($195.89 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B360M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($68.69 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($139.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($97.85 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB D5X Video Card  ($479.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($84.98 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($81.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $1149.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-30 13:38 EDT-0400

 

intel variant.

 

 

Ryzen variant will be cheaper and have much better upgrade path, but you do pay some performance on the CPU unless you overclock (which you should)

though at 1440p it will be unoticable

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1 hour ago, GoldenLag said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor  ($169.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($81.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($139.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($97.85 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB D5X Video Card  ($479.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($84.98 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($81.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $1136.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-30 13:39 EDT-0400

 

Ryzen variant. 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($195.89 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B360M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($68.69 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($139.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($97.85 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB D5X Video Card  ($479.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($84.98 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($81.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $1149.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-30 13:38 EDT-0400

 

intel variant.

 

 

Ryzen variant will be cheaper and have much better upgrade path, but you do pay some performance on the CPU unless you overclock (which you should)

though at 1440p it will be unoticable

switching to a i5 8600k and going with a 1070 will be in the budget as well. I'd go with the 8600 if not the 8600k since the 8600 is close in price to the 8400

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3 minutes ago, PurplDrank said:

switching to a i5 8600k and going with a 1070 will be in the budget as well. I'd go with the 8600 if not the 8600k since the 8600 is close in price to the 8400

With an ultrawide 1440p monitor, either CPU will be fine. The GPU downgrade would make a much bigger difference. 

The 8600 costs $25 more for a 0,3GHz clockspeed difference. 

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26 minutes ago, seon123 said:

With an ultrawide 1440p monitor, either CPU will be fine. The GPU downgrade would make a much bigger difference. 

The 8600 costs $25 more for a 0,3GHz clockspeed difference. 

is the z370 or the b360 the newest motherboard?

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1 hour ago, GoldenLag said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor  ($169.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($81.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($139.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($97.85 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB D5X Video Card  ($479.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($84.98 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($81.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $1136.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-30 13:39 EDT-0400

 

Ryzen variant. 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($195.89 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B360M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($68.69 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($139.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($97.85 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB D5X Video Card  ($479.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($84.98 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($81.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $1149.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-30 13:38 EDT-0400

 

intel variant.

 

 

Ryzen variant will be cheaper and have much better upgrade path, but you do pay some performance on the CPU unless you overclock (which you should)

though at 1440p it will be unoticable

by much better upgrade path you mean the AM4 won't go out of spec or will still be used for a long time?

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9 minutes ago, PurplDrank said:

is the z370 or the b360 the newest motherboard?

Both are the same gen, but B360 came out later. 

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47 minutes ago, PurplDrank said:

by much better upgrade path you mean the AM4 won't go out of spec or will still be used for a long time?

AM4 is being used for 2 more generations, bothexpected to have great performance. for intel you will have to swap out the Mobo

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20 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

AM4 is being used for 2 more generations, bothexpected to have great performance. for intel you will have to swap out the Mobo

is there that much of a difference between AMD vs intel for gaming?

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Just now, PurplDrank said:

is there that much of a difference between AMD vs intel for gaming?

To some do degree, yes. An overclock negates this, but it is still appearant in older titles. In newer, not so much. 

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1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

To some do degree, yes. An overclock negates this, but it is still appearant in older titles. In newer, not so much. 

Im stuck between building an AMD or an Intel Build. I see people mix the AMD CPU with an nvidia graphics card.

 

My friend is anti AMD and thinks I am wasting my money with AMD. I am trying to build just a strict gaming pc, with some school work involved maybe some frag movie making, but not sure if ill be getting into that hobby.

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1 minute ago, PurplDrank said:

Im stuck between building an AMD or an Intel Build. I see people mix the AMD CPU with an nvidia graphics card.

 

My friend is anti AMD and thinks I am wasting my money with AMD. I am trying to build just a strict gaming pc, with some school work involved maybe some frag movie making, but not sure if ill be getting into that hobby.

What is you budget for your PC? 

Do you need monitor and peripherals?

Whats your region?

 

 

What hardware you pick depends mostly on budget, purpose and region

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9 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

What is you budget for your PC? 

Do you need monitor and peripherals?

Whats your region?

 

 

What hardware you pick depends mostly on budget, purpose and region

United States, already have a monitor and peripherals.

 

Budget is around $1100-$1200

 

Basically gaming like Escape from tarkov, squad. possibly battlefield 5 and fallout 76.

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3 minutes ago, PurplDrank said:

United States, already have a monitor and peripherals.

 

Budget is around $1100-$1200

Do you want OS to be included in the price?

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6 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

Do you want OS to be included in the price?

nah OS i can get for free. I would prefer ATX. I already bought a fractal design meshify C case and a hard drive.

 

Here is the build my buddy made for me:

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FC8FZR
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FC8FZR/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor  ($347.00 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($34.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus - Prime Z370-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($164.07 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($170.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($64.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($57.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING X Video Card  ($319.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C Dark TG ATX Mid Tower Case  ($88.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.99 @ B&H) 
Total: $1328.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-30 17:12 EDT-0400

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11 minutes ago, PurplDrank said:

United States, already have a monitor and peripherals.

 

Budget is around $1100-$1200

 

Basically gaming like Escape from tarkov, squad. possibly battlefield 5 and fallout 76.

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HbX2bX
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HbX2bX/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor  ($169.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($81.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($139.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($64.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.40 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB D5X Video Card  ($479.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($73.38 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1113.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-30 17:11 EDT-0400

 

This or swap the cpu for a 8400 and same board just im B360.

 

Pick the 8400 of you dont plan on upgrading CPU within 1-3 years.

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Just now, PurplDrank said:

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Overkill CPU for the GPU, avoid the Prime boards from Asus

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