Gaming/Streaming/Productivity Build

[thvSPARK]

1. Budget & Location

My budget is around $1800 USD, not looking to go much higher than that.

2. Aim

This build is going to be mainly used for triple A gaming and streaming, but I also will need to do some 3D modeling and photo/video editing as well.

3. Monitors

Right now, the only monitor I have and am planning to use is the Omen by HP 25in Display (FHD (1920 x 1080 @144hz)

4. Peripherals

I have all of the peripherals that I need (Mouse, keyboard, monitor, headset). I will need Windows 10, I was planning on getting a key from SCDKey (BTW, is this a reliable site or should I go somewhere else?)

 

The main goal of this post is to find out whether I should use the Ryzen 7 2700x or the Intel i7-8700k. I am planning on overclocking whichever one I get, but I don't know whether the extra cores on the Ryzen would make up for the worse clock rate/lost FPS.

 

CPU: Intel i7-8700k OR Ryzen 7 2700x

Motherboard: Gigabyte z370 Aorus Gaming 7 OR Gigabyte x470 Aorus Gaming 7

Cooler: NZXT - Kraken x62 Rev 2

RAM: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory

Storage: Samsung - 860 EVO 500GB 2.5" SSD

GPU: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card

PSU: SeaSonic  - Focus Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

 

ALSO: Do I need a different graphics card if I am running the Ryzen setup or can I stick with the 1080?

[Droidbot]

SCDKey's keys are overpriced. Go elsewhere. eBay is not the most reputable place, but at least the keys work and PayPal is willing to back you the fuck up if shit hits the fan.

 

What kind of programs do you use for photo/video editing? If you use Adobe, 100% go 8700k.

[GoldenLag]

Id run the 2700x setup for youe usecase. The extra threads will come in handy. 

 

You can run the 1080. It will ve the best choice of GPU unoess you can get a Vega 64 for around the same price. Does your Omen come equiped with Freesync?

[thvSPARK]

1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

Id run the 2700x setup for youe usecase. The extra threads will come in handy. 

 

You can run the 1080. It will ve the best choice of GPU unoess you can get a Vega 64 for around the same price. Does your Omen come equiped with Freesync?

Yes, it has Freesync

[Streetguru]

10 minutes ago, Pyronyx said:

 

Kraken is an overpriced meme, wouldn't suggest buying it. Coolermaster has a cheap $59 RGB 240mm AIO if you really wanted RGB.

 

What's the exact model of your display? It might have free-sync.

*If it has free-sync grab Vega 56, it's back down to near MSRP anyways

Probably just grab the R7 1700 over the 2700X given that it's near $200 right now
 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Byzs8Y
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Byzs8Y/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3GHz 8-Core Processor  ($219.90 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Enermax - Liqmax II 240 96.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($77.25 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - X470 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($129.99 @ B&H)
Memory: ADATA - XPG GAMMIX D10 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($149.90 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($115.51 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX VEGA 56 8GB ROG STRIX Video Card  ($494.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterCase H500 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($107.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($82.59 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1378.10
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-08 12:50 EDT-0400

[GoldenLag]

5 minutes ago, Pyronyx said:

Yes, it has Freesync

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bChx9J
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bChx9J/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7GHz 8-Core Processor  ($309.90 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($145.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty X470 Gaming K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($140.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: ADATA - XPG GAMMIX D10 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($149.90 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($109.85 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX VEGA 64 8GB ROG STRIX Video Card  ($589.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($81.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $1528.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-08 12:50 EDT-0400

 

Might consider this with a Vega 64. Can fit a 1080ti in the budget.

 

Grab the case you want and a key from reddit for 25$

[thvSPARK]

13 minutes ago, Droidbot said:

SCDKey's keys are overpriced. Go elsewhere. eBay is not the most reputable place, but at least the keys work and PayPal is willing to back you the fuck up if shit hits the fan.

 

What kind of programs do you use for photo/video editing? If you use Adobe, 100% go 8700k.

What benefits does Intel have in Adobe?

[Droidbot]

Just now, Pyronyx said:

What benefits does Intel have in Adobe?

Significant performance improvements.

 

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Premiere-Pro-CC-2017-1-2-CPU-Performance-Core-i7-8700K-i5-8600K-i3-8350K-1047/

 

 

 

[thvSPARK]

9 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Kraken is an overpriced meme, wouldn't suggest buying it. Coolermaster has a cheap $59 RGB 240mm AIO if you really wanted RGB.

 

What's the exact model of your display? It might have free-sync.

*If it has free-sync grab Vega 56, it's back down to near MSRP anyways

Probably just grab the R7 1700 over the 2700X given that it's near $200 right now
 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Byzs8Y
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Byzs8Y/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3GHz 8-Core Processor  ($219.90 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Enermax - Liqmax II 240 96.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($77.25 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - X470 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($129.99 @ B&H)
Memory: ADATA - XPG GAMMIX D10 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($149.90 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($115.51 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX VEGA 56 8GB ROG STRIX Video Card  ($494.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterCase H500 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($107.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($82.59 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1378.10
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-08 12:50 EDT-0400

What does Freesync do? Could I use it with a 1080?

 

[thvSPARK]

3 minutes ago, Droidbot said:

Significant performance improvements.

 

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Premiere-Pro-CC-2017-1-2-CPU-Performance-Core-i7-8700K-i5-8600K-i3-8350K-1047/

 

 

 

Thanks!

[GoldenLag]

3 minutes ago, Pyronyx said:

What does Freesync do? Could I use it with a 1080?

 

You can use a 1080 just fine.

 

Freesync matches the refreshrate with frames in games removing tearing making it a smoother experience.

 

You dont loose anything by picking a Vega 64 in terms of performance. It cost the same as a mid-tier 1080.

[GoldenLag]

5 minutes ago, Droidbot said:

Significant performance improvements.

 

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Premiere-Pro-CC-2017-1-2-CPU-Performance-Core-i7-8700K-i5-8600K-i3-8350K-1047/

 

 

 

This is actually whole lot less of a difference than i thought.

[thvSPARK]

2 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

You can use a 1080 just fine.

 

Freesync matches the refreshrate with frames in games removing tearing making it a smoother experience.

 

You dont loose anything by picking a Vega 64 in terms of performance. It cost the same as a mid-tier 1080.

So it costs about the same and it prevents tearing?

[Queen Chrysalis]

I'll say this.  99% of the, "mainly gaming occasional creative" builds should be built for pure gaming.  Anything short of professional video work will be executed flawlessly by a gaming build.  99% of you are wasting you money on an 8700k/2700x when an 8600k/8400/8350k/2600/2400g would be plenty.

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, Pyronyx said:

So it costs about the same and it prevents tearing?

Pretty much. Though you do loose a few frames in games which use Nvidia specific features. Though these can be turned of without loss in visuals. Though by using up to date drivers you wont notice anything

[Queen Chrysalis]

2 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

Pretty much. Though you do loose a few frames in games which use Nvidia specific features. Though these can be turned of without loss in visuals. Though by using up to date drivers you wont notice anything

A few frames in not too big of a deal compared to losing half your frames in the few Radeon specific games. (cough cough Deus Ex)

[thvSPARK]

2 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

Pretty much. Though you do loose a few frames in games which use Nvidia specific features. Though these can be turned of without loss in visuals. Though by using up to date drivers you wont notice anything

Cool, good to know!

[DocSwag]

11 minutes ago, Droidbot said:

Significant performance improvements.

 

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Premiere-Pro-CC-2017-1-2-CPU-Performance-Core-i7-8700K-i5-8600K-i3-8350K-1047/

 

 

 

 

5 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

This is actually whole lot less of a difference than i thought.

To add though, with the recent Adobe premiere update that allowed iGPU acceleration on intel cpus there's little reason to choose ryzen anymore.

 

https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3310-adobe-premiere-benchmarks-rendering-8700k-gpu-vs-ryzen

[Streetguru]

13 minutes ago, Pyronyx said:

What does Freesync do? Could I use it with a 1080?

 

Radeon Only because nvidia hates freedom.

 

You don't need to buy windows you can install it for free without a key.

 

Premiere just added quick sync support which makes the 8700K the best CPU for it basically.

 

Or just use Vegas and avoid paying a monthly sub fee anyways, then go for Ryzen if Vegas.
 

 

[thvSPARK]

1 minute ago, Queen Chrysalis said:

A few frames in not too big of a deal compared to losing half your frames in the few Radeon specific games. (cough cough Deus Ex)

If I used the GTX 1080?

[Queen Chrysalis]

I have a 1080 and it gets like 25 at max super mega ultra dev mode in Deus Ex.  But the game looks fine at medium.

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, DocSwag said:

 

To add though, with the recent Adobe premiere update that allowed iGPU acceleration on intel cpus there's little reason to choose ryzen anymore.

 

https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3310-adobe-premiere-benchmarks-rendering-8700k-gpu-vs-ryzen

Ah.... Thought there was something missing in that benchmark.

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, Queen Chrysalis said:

I have a 1080 and it gets like 25 at max super mega ultra dev mode in Deus Ex.  But the game looks fine at medium.

I thought these performance issues were fixed after a driver update from Nvidia.

 

Usually the AMD version of Nvidia features impact performance less as soon as Nvidia gets a driver out for them. 

[Queen Chrysalis]

2 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

I thought these performance issues were fixed after a driver update from Nvidia.

 

Usually the AMD version of Nvidia features impact performance less as soon as Nvidia gets a driver out for them. 

I'll have to check, haven't played the game in months.

[Droidbot]

4 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

Ah.... Thought there was something missing in that benchmark.

Yeah, I'd heard a lot about QSV. 3AM brains like "hey that's good enough"