Balancing over PC components

[Premoz1]

Hi, I need help on pc components balance. I have 1k budget, and I have already chosen 240€ cpu, (i5-8600 core coffee lake) So basically its 24% of my budget. Is that good? And I have watched other forums, and people say that it depends on what games, settings and what resolution are you gonna play, and I want to play CSGO, R6S, PUBG, Fortnite, and Rust on 1080p and low-medium settings. So if anyone would like to help me on how much I should spent on gpu, ram, motherboard etc... And by the way, about motherboards.. The cpu I have chosen requires LGA1151 and there is different prices... Should I just choose cheapest one? Please help me to choose motherboard. Thank you people.

[Streetguru]

3 minutes ago, Premoz1 said:

 

Should just go for Ryzen, it lets you get a 1070ti, although that GPU is overkill for 1080p 60hz gaming
 

PCPartPicker part list: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/wzkwq4
Price breakdown by merchant: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/wzkwq4/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (€148.89 @ Alternate)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€77.27 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (€152.74 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€38.18 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card  (€489.90 @ Caseking)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€45.98 @ Alternate)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€87.69 @ Mindfactory)
Total: €1040.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-04 23:39 CEST+0200

[Premoz1]

But I dont want ryzen....

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

Used Netherlands pricing because you didn't give a country

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/r38H4q
Price breakdown by merchant: https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/r38H4q/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  (€189.00 @ Paradigit) - The i5-8600 will offer no tangible benefit over the i5-8400 especially when the money saved is spent on an aftermarket cooler that allows the 8400 to reach its max Turbo Boost speed
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (€39.95 @ Paradigit) - The CryoRig H7 doesn't seem to be available so this is the second choice. I'd take that over the 212 Evo if you can get it,
Motherboard: MSI - B360M BAZOOKA Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€109.00 @ Paradigit) - Unfortunately, AsRock's PRO4 line doesn't seem to be available but this will work fine if you can't get your hands on that, although my first choice would be the AsRock B360 Pro4 if you can find that in stock anywhere
Memory: Kingston - FURY 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  (€169.00 @ Paradigit) - The cheapest 16GB kit of DDR4
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€64.99 @ Paradigit) - Can say from experience this is a reasonably fast budget SSD
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€47.99 @ Paradigit) - The legendary WD Blue
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Turbo Video Card  (€359.00 @ Paradigit) - Cheapest 1060 available. Get whatever 6Gb 1060 you like so long as it's blower or dual fan. Don't buy the single fan cards - the cooling on those is awful
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€49.95 @ Paradigit) - Best budget case!!
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€69.95 @ Paradigit) - Cheapest decent unit I can find
Total: €1098.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-04 23:38 CEST+0200

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

4 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Should just go for Ryzen, it lets you get a 1070ti, although that GPU is overkill for 1080p 60hz gaming
 

PCPartPicker part list: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/wzkwq4
Price breakdown by merchant: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/wzkwq4/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (€148.89 @ Alternate)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€77.27 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (€152.74 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€38.18 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card  (€489.90 @ Caseking)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€45.98 @ Alternate)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€87.69 @ Mindfactory)
Total: €1040.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-04 23:39 CEST+0200

No SSD?

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

1 minute ago, Premoz1 said:

But I dont want ryzen....

In that case the best you'll be able to get is something like the build I put above. If I could ask why don't you want Ryzen? It's great!

[Streetguru]

1 minute ago, orbitalbuzzsaw said:

No SSD?

Can just be easily added in later.

[Streetguru]

2 minutes ago, Premoz1 said:

But I dont want ryzen....

Why? It gets you a better GPU which is more important for gaming in most cases.

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

Just now, Streetguru said:

Can just be easily added in later.

True but you could get a less expensive PSU like a Focus Gold 550w and at least get a 120GB for a boot drive. There's no excuse not to have an SSD in a new build in 2018

[Streetguru]

2 minutes ago, orbitalbuzzsaw said:

 

Always going to want a 240GB SSD at minimum, 120 just isn't enough for much of anything.

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

Just now, Streetguru said:

Always going to want a 240GB SSD at minimum, 120 just isn't enough for much of anything.

Yeah true but that's only $40 which you could easily squeeze into a $1000 build

[Premoz1]

I dont know anything about ryzen specs, and could you explain me how its possible that it gives better gpu. And btw I said my budget is 1k, no above

[Streetguru]

3 minutes ago, Premoz1 said:

I dont know anything about ryzen specs, and could you explain me how its possible that it gives better gpu. And btw I said my budget is 1k, no above

Well use a box as a case, otherwise you'd have to drop down to a 1060 or RX 580, it already lacks an SSD to get the better GPU in near the budget.

It gets you a better GPU because it's cheaper to buy Ryzen than Coffee Lake? It still does gaming just fine.

Also there's no reason to buy an i5 8600 non K instead of the i5 8400 if you are going coffee lake.
 

 

[wasab]

Buy prebuilt then thrown in a ssd.

You in European Union? 

[Streetguru]

6 minutes ago, Premoz1 said:

I dont know anything about ryzen specs, and could you explain me how its possible that it gives better gpu. And btw I said my budget is 1k, no above

If you're sticking to coffee lake you should be buying an i7 8700 non K so that you never have to worry about upgrading it.

 

But then that means a 580 instead of a 1070ti

Would stick to an RX 580 for free-sync savings
 

PCPartPicker part list: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/czhjWD
Price breakdown by merchant: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/czhjWD/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (€294.90 @ Caseking)
Motherboard: ASRock - B360M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€91.55 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (€152.74 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€38.18 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon RX 580 8GB AORUS 8G Video Card  (€299.00 @ Caseking)
Case: Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€35.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€87.69 @ Mindfactory)
Total: €999.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-04 23:57 CEST+0200

[Premoz1]

Guys wait. I can talk about this situation more in 10 minutes. I am pretty busy right now

[Premoz1]

Okay. So I am from finland. Could you explain me better why I cant use i5-8600 coffee lake. And I want nvidia geforce gpu, not radeon cuz I dont know shit about ryzen and radeon specs lol

[Streetguru]

2 minutes ago, Premoz1 said:

Okay. So I am from finland. Could you explain me better why I cant use i5-8600 coffee lake. And I want nvidia geforce gpu, not radeon cuz I dont know shit about ryzen and radeon specs lol

Because the 8600 isn't going to be much faster than the 8400 despite the price increase. Or Ryzen is just cheap and effective CPU in general, and AM4 gives you an upgrade path which is nice.
 

Getting AMD is going to save you money on a free-sync display, assuming you only have a 1080p 60hz display

On the german part picker at least it's almost double the price for a G-sync display vs a Free-sync display with the same specs

It sounds like you just need to do more research rather than throwing out half of the market outright.
 

PCPartPicker part list: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/63qR23
Price breakdown by merchant: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/63qR23/by_merchant/

Monitor: AOC - G2460PG 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor  (€398.83 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Monitor: AOC - G2460PF 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor  (€228.17 @ Mindfactory)
Total: €627.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-05 00:08 CEST+0200

[Premoz1]

And btw, I havent even thought about the display, so is that one good?  And which one is better, free sync or g sync? And Idk which one to choose, i5-8400 or ryzen 5 1600

[Premoz1]

And by the way, I can see that you have 12k posts :DD Why you do this

 

 

[Streetguru]

2 minutes ago, Premoz1 said:

And btw, I havent even thought about the display, so is that one good?  And which one is better, free sync or g sync? And Idk which one to choose, i5-8400 or ryzen 5 1600

If you're doing fps gaming you're probably going to want a 144hz display, but does that need to be part of the 1000 EUR budget now?

I have nothing better to do with my time than to save people from themselves on a canadian tech forum

[Premoz1]

Yeah, fps. I am using my old mac to play lol. I get 60fps on rainbow six siege tho, but I cant see enemies cuz I got lowest settings possible xDD And yes, I forgot to say, sorry, that the display is part of the budget

[Premoz1]

How old are you? And where are you from?

[Streetguru]

5 minutes ago, Premoz1 said:

Yeah, fps. I am using my old mac to play lol. I get 60fps on rainbow six siege tho, but I cant see enemies cuz I got lowest settings possible xDD And yes, I forgot to say, sorry, that the display is part of the budget

Then probably just get Ryzen 3 with an RX 580, add an SSD later and wait for Ryzen 3000 next  year to upgrade the CPU

Better off with the 144hz display for now

Also look for this one, it has a VA panel which will be better than TN for daily use
https://www.amazon.com/Acer-ED242QR-Abidpx-FREESYNC-Technology/dp/B07598HLB5/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1524889602&sr=8-1&keywords=1080p+144hz+VA+Acer
 

PCPartPicker part list: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/m6mx9J
Price breakdown by merchant: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/m6mx9J/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€83.89 @ Alternate)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€77.27 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (€152.74 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€38.18 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon RX 580 8GB AORUS 8G Video Card  (€299.00 @ Caseking)
Case: Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€35.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MasterWatt 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€64.10 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Monitor: AOC - G2460PF 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor  (€228.17 @ Mindfactory)
Total: €979.25
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-05 00:40 CEST+0200

There's some benchmarks anyways

 

[Premoz1]

I WANT INTEL CPU AND NVIDIA GPU XDD I dont know shit about ryzen and radeon specs