Are 12 pins for cpu essential for a NOT extreme oc?(8+4)

[TECH J]

Hello,so i have bought the corsair rxm 650 and i have the asrock x470 master sli paired with a ryzen 5 2600x.This mobo has 8+4 pins for cpu power but my highly paid psu has only 8.So,are the 4 extra pins essential and can this psu run in the future the upcoming am4 cpus with just 8pins?Also,generaly speaking,on all mobos,what is the standart of the essential pins for cpu power(8,4,12??)and can i oc with this psu?Thank you very much for your valuable answers!!

[Santo22]

It will run fine with only the 8 pin connected. You will still be able to overclock as well. Have fun, sounds like a good setup. 

[Dissitesuxba11s]

The 4-pin is for extreme overclocking. You should be fine with just the 8-pin.

[TECH J]

7 minutes ago, Dissitesuxba11s said:

The 4-pin is for extreme overclocking. You should be fine with just the 8-pin.

So in ANY mobo the 4 extta pins are only for xtreme oc,right?

[Dissitesuxba11s]

2 minutes ago, TECH J said:

So in ANY mobo the 4 extta pins are only for xtreme oc,right?

Yes, only the 8-pin is necessary for general OC.

[TECH J]

10 minutes ago, Santo22 said:

It will run fine with only the 8 pin connected. You will still be able to overclock as well. Have fun, sounds like a good setup. 

So in any consumer mobo,8 pins are enough and the 4 extra ones are onoy for extreme oc,right?

[TECH J]

2 minutes ago, Dissitesuxba11s said:

Yes, only the 8-pin is necessary for general OC.

Thank you very much!

[Santo22]

exactly. I haven't seen anything yet that needed the 4 extra pins under normal conditions. 

[TECH J]

1 minute ago, Santo22 said:

exactly. I haven't seen anything yet that needed the 4 extra pins under normal conditions. 

But why the manufactures dont say that the extra 4 pins are not essential?

[Santo22]

I believe in most manuals they do say the 4pin is optional. 

[TECH J]

4 minutes ago, Santo22 said:

I believe in most manuals they do say the 4pin is optional. 

Not in mine!!?

[Santo22]

ah well, either way. it's optional 

[TECH J]

2 minutes ago, Santo22 said:

ah well, either way. it's optional 

Do you think that in the future ,cpus will require 12 pins?

[Ground]

On x299 and x399 (HEDT) its more likely to be needed. A single 8 pin can deliver ~300W without any problems, and then you are already looking at the limits of most typical cooling solutions.

[TECH J]

2 hours ago, Ground said:

On x299 and x399 (HEDT) its more likely to be needed. A single 8 pin can deliver ~300W without any problems, and then you are already looking at the limits of most typical cooling solutions.

So then,why the hell they put that in their mobos?(x470)

 

[aezakmi]

my old board had 8+6 and I used it only with 8 for years until I got a better PSU

 

it's ok

[TECH J]

3 minutes ago, aezakmi said:

my old board had 8+6 and I used it only with 8 for years until I got a better PSU

 

it's ok

Look,this psu is great,but it has this limitation,which is not important at all if you are not going to do extreme oc with nitrogen oxygen

[seon123]

Even with LN2, you aren't that likely to need the extra 4-pin. It's just ridiculous marketing crap. 

[TECH J]

48 minutes ago, seon123 said:

Even with LN2, you aren't that likely to need the extra 4-pin. It's just ridiculous marketing crap. 

So,with any consumer grade cpu 8 pins are enough,right?(and for my puprose oc is acceptable right?)

[seon123]

3 minutes ago, TECH J said:

So,with any consumer grade cpu 8 pins are enough,right?(and for my puprose oc is acceptable right?)

Yup. Assuming the PSU isn't a fire hazard in the first place. 

[TECH J]

1 minute ago, seon123 said:

Yup. Assuming the PSU isn't a fire hazard in the first place. 

So,in conclusion finally,8 pin connectors are fine for any mainstream cpu,and for oc them(not xtreme and not the fx 9590).The 4 additional pins are for enthousiast overclocked cpus  or for mainstream with crazy oc.So i assume that my psu will have enough power connector for the future cpus,right?

[seon123]

8 minutes ago, TECH J said:

So,in conclusion finally,8 pin connectors are fine for any mainstream cpu,and for oc them(not xtreme and not the fx 9590).The 4 additional pins are for enthousiast overclocked cpus  or for mainstream with crazy oc.So i assume that my psu will have enough power connector for the future cpus,right?

Yes, for all of those except for the mainstream with crazy OC. Even for those, the extra pins are a stupid marketing gimmick. 

[aezakmi]

1 hour ago, TECH J said:

Look,this psu is great,but it has this limitation,which is not important at all if you are not going to do extreme oc with nitrogen oxygen

yeah, there are no CPUs that use all of that power yet but you know they just add it to make the board look better

[GDRRiley]

5 hours ago, TECH J said:

So in ANY mobo the 4 extta pins are only for xtreme oc,right?

not always, some server and workstation boards with more than 1 CPU or X299/X399 may need them.

[TECH J]

1 hour ago, GDRRiley said:

not always, some server and workstation boards with more than 1 CPU or X299/X399 may need them.

So even if i oc an ryzen 7 2700x with water coolig(not xtreme),an 8 pin will be fine