$2000

[Peacefulgaming]

I have $2000 to spend on a build for a family member, how well will a build with that sort of budget run siege at 144hz, and what’s the highest setting could I put it on

[Herman Mcpootis]

there's no list or anything linked.

[Peacefulgaming]

4 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

there's no list or anything linked.

Sorry, I worded it wrong. I mean would $2000 on a build run siege alright at 144hz

[grimreeper132]

Assuming no peripherals are needed and your asking us to give you a list these are two options, going with intel and AMD, gaming wise the intel one will be slightly better, but not massively, and the ryzen one is better for multithreaded workloads. There can be costs cut in places, e.g. there is cheaper PSUs which are good, but that is a good one far as I remember. both could do 144Hz in siege yes.

 

$160 over intel

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/pWqgnH

 

$70 over AMD

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/4J4h7W

 

5 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

there's no list or anything linked.

I think by the fact the OP is saying "I have" they are meaning they haven't priced anything out and are still in the planning phase

[Herman Mcpootis]

1 minute ago, Peacefulgaming said:

Sorry, I worded it wrong. I mean would $2000 on a build run siege alright at 144hz

need os/monitor/peripherals?

[grimreeper132]

1 minute ago, Peacefulgaming said:

Sorry, I worded it wrong. I mean would $2000 on a build run siege alright at 144hz

that's like can that car move, it depends on what car you are buying, as if you buy a car which is a pile of shit no it can't but if you get a good one yes, so it depends on youor build

[Peacefulgaming]

1 minute ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

need os/monitor/peripherals?

No

[Peacefulgaming]

5 minutes ago, grimreeper132 said:

Assuming no peripherals are needed and your asking us to give you a list these are two options, going with intel and AMD, gaming wise the intel one will be slightly better, but not massively, and the ryzen one is better for multithreaded workloads. There can be costs cut in places, e.g. there is cheaper PSUs which are good, but that is a good one far as I remember. both could do 144Hz in siege yes.

 

$160 over intel

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/pWqgnH

 

$70 over AMD

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/4J4h7W

 

I think by the fact the OP is saying "I have" they are meaning they haven't priced anything out and are still in the planning phase

They both look good thank you, they both would be able to run games on high settings, right?

[grimreeper132]

Just now, Peacefulgaming said:

They both look good thank you, they both would be able to run games on high settings right?

with a 1080 yes, I would say get a 1080ti but they expensive as fuck cause mining. 

[Peacefulgaming]

Just now, grimreeper132 said:

with a 1080 yes, I would say get a 1080ti but they expensive as fuck cause mining. 

Yeah, we have markets here and I’m hoping I can go to one cause, I can get a 1080ti for like $800

 

 

[Herman Mcpootis]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($418.00 @ Shopping Express) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - M9i 48.4 CFM CPU Cooler  ($29.00 @ PCCaseGear) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B360M DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($90.91 @ Amazon Australia) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($247.17 @ Amazon Australia) 
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($107.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($72.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Video Card: GALAX - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB EX OC SNPR White Video Card  ($759.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Case: Fractal Design - Arc Mini R2 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($92.00 @ Skycomp Technology) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($119.00 @ Mwave Australia) 
Total: $1934.08
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-11 21:08 AEST+1000

[Peacefulgaming]

Just now, Herman Mcpootis said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($418.00 @ Shopping Express) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - M9i 48.4 CFM CPU Cooler  ($29.00 @ PCCaseGear) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B360M DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($90.91 @ Amazon Australia) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($247.17 @ Amazon Australia) 
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($107.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($72.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Video Card: GALAX - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB EX OC SNPR White Video Card  ($759.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Case: Fractal Design - Arc Mini R2 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($92.00 @ Skycomp Technology) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($119.00 @ Mwave Australia) 
Total: $1934.08
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-11 21:08 AEST+1000

Thank you

[Peacefulgaming]

9 minutes ago, grimreeper132 said:

with a 1080 yes, I would say get a 1080ti but they expensive as fuck cause mining. 

Why did I need a 850W PSU if the build only uses 400W

[grimreeper132]

Just now, Peacefulgaming said:

Why did I need a 850W PSU if the build only uses 400W

because it's a good PSU, and it gives you room to expand if you do overclocking or SLI or both in the future, I can find you a cheaper one if you want

[Peacefulgaming]

1 minute ago, grimreeper132 said:

because it's a good PSU, and it gives you room to expand if you do overclocking or SLI or both in the future, I can find you a cheaper one if you want

No it’s ok, just trying to learn about making builds for the future

[Peacefulgaming]

4 minutes ago, grimreeper132 said:

because it's a good PSU, and it gives you room to expand if you do overclocking or SLI or both in the future, I can find you a cheaper one if you want

Two more questions,

1. If I had some extra money for the build is it worth getting the new i7 and

2. If I want to add some colour to my build do I use nzxt rgb or Asus rgb

[grimreeper132]

1 minute ago, Peacefulgaming said:

Two more questions,

1. If I had some extra money for the build is it worth getting the new i7 and

2. If I want to add some colour to my build do I use nzxt rgb or Asus rgb

depends, I personally would go with the ryzen because I don't think approx 2-3fps is worth $90 but everyone is different, and possibly I don't follow or really care about RGB (I mean I have some in my current PC but I don't care enough about it to know that)

[Peacefulgaming]

3 minutes ago, grimreeper132 said:

depends, I personally would go with the ryzen because I don't think approx 2-3fps is worth $90 but everyone is different, and possibly I don't follow or really care about RGB (I mean I have some in my current PC but I don't care enough about it to know that)

Alright, a lot of people told me to go with Intel for gaming but if Ryzen runs better than I would go with that. 

[grimreeper132]

1 minute ago, Peacefulgaming said:

Alright, a lot of people told me to go with Intel for gaming but if Ryzen runs better than I would go with that. 

intel will run better, but not massively, ryzen is slower, but not massively it's more GPU dependent than CPU dependent gaming 

[Peacefulgaming]

1 minute ago, grimreeper132 said:

intel will run better, but not massively, ryzen is slower, but not massively it's more GPU dependent than CPU dependent gaming 

Ah ok, so besides speed is there any difference 

[grimreeper132]

2 minutes ago, Peacefulgaming said:

Ah ok, so besides speed is there any difference 

ones made by intel and ones made by AMD, AMDs has 2 more cores than intels, intels has a higher base and boost speed than AMDs, AMD has higher multi threaded performance than intel, intel has higher single threaded performance than AMD

[Peacefulgaming]

4 minutes ago, grimreeper132 said:

ones made by intel and ones made by AMD, AMDs has 2 more cores than intels, intels has a higher base and boost speed than AMDs, AMD has higher multi threaded performance than intel, intel has higher single threaded performance than AMD

Alright, thanks for the help

[Herman Mcpootis]

28 minutes ago, grimreeper132 said:

because it's a good PSU, and it gives you room to expand if you do overclocking or SLI or both in the future, I can find you a cheaper one if you want

when the mobo doesn't even support SLI? seems legit. even with overclocking 550w is more than enough for a 1080.

 

23 minutes ago, Peacefulgaming said:

1. If I had some extra money for the build is it worth getting the new i7 

the 8086k isn't much faster for the extra cheddar, just get the cheaper i7 and overclock it.

 

13 minutes ago, Peacefulgaming said:

Ah ok, so besides speed is there any difference 

coffeelake CPUs have slightly better IPC so it'll perform better for gaming, ryzen has higher core/thread counts so it'll perform better if the program can use all the cores efficiently.

[grimreeper132]

Just now, Herman Mcpootis said:

when the mobo doesn't even support SLI? seems legit. even with overclocking 550w is more than enough for a 1080.

Does it not, never mind on that then but yea. I still personally recommend 850W as it's more versatile in the future and I know I have built PCs and changed their purpose down the line and had to change PSUs for being too small or something

[Herman Mcpootis]

Just now, grimreeper132 said:

Does it not, never mind on that then but yea. I still personally recommend 850W as it's more versatile in the future and I know I have built PCs and changed their purpose down the line and had to change PSUs for being too small or something

there's nothing short of an overclocked vega 64 and HEDT CPU that will overload a good 550w PSU, 850w is just overkill.