Small Form Factor Gaming Ryzen Build

[wowotek]

Hello Guys, For the next month. i'm planning to build a Small Form Factor Gaming PC.

What i do on this PC is :

• AAA, some RTS and MOBA Gaming.
• Streaming @ 1080 and 2K.
• Video Editing @ 1080 and 2K.
• OpenGL, OpenCL, and Back-End Programming.
• Application Development; PC, Android, IOS.
• Office Thingy

I Already Had Dell 1440p 60Hz Monitor, Keyboard and Mouse, and Windows 10. so i got a $2000 Budget for the component. for now here's what i got :

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pjk8QZ
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pjk8QZ/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7GHz 8-Core Processor  ($319.69 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-L9x65 SE-AM4 CPU Cooler  ($49.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty X470 Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard  ($172.22 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($169.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Kingston - A1000 480GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($141.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AMP Edition Video Card  ($778.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Silverstone - ML07B HTPC Case  ($69.99 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: Silverstone - 600W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply  ($114.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $1817.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-09 18:41 EDT-0400

 

There is a lot of question and consideration before i finalize my build. i would like to make sure about the cooling, fit, and performance. i never build a system this small. i really need your help for picking the right part while squeezing the performance on my budget, the cooling and the part fit.

 

I cannot sure about the component will fit in the casing, so i take the list from linus's video : The BEST Tiny CASES on Market

I Already Had the Full Sized System, so yeah, i don't want the same Form Factor.

 

Thanks For Helping me.

 

[Jurrunio]

You mean 2.5k resolution? 2.5k = 2560 x 1440, 2k = 1920 x 1080

 

1. High frequency memory preferred (3000MHz+)

 

2. Zotac high end cards have bad VRM cooling (other than the mini card, pointless for cases that can hold bigger cards). The EVGA SC2 and SC Black cards are better deals.

 

3. I prefer the standard NH-L9x65, because of compatibility. You wont be able to reuse the SE-AM4 version if you plan on getting an Intel system in the future.

[brob]

I think the Corsair SF600 is a better psu. In the US it is around the same price as the Silverstone SX600-G.

 

Ryzen cpu perform better at higher memory speeds. Around DDR4-3000 / DDR4-3200.

[wowotek]

3 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

You mean 2.5k resolution? 2.5k = 2560 x 1440, 2k = 1920 x 1080

 

1. High frequency memory preferred (3000MHz+)

 

2. Zotac high end cards have bad VRM cooling (other than the mini card, pointless for cases that can hold bigger cards). The EVGA SC2 and SC Black cards are better deals.

 

3. I prefer the standard NH-L9x65, because of compatibility. You wont be able to reuse the SE-AM4 version if you plan on getting an Intel system in the future.

for number 3 what's the difference the standard and the AM4 version. is it interchangeable ?

[Taf the Ghost]

56 minutes ago, wowotek said:

for number 3 what's the difference the standard and the AM4 version. is it interchangeable ?

None, really.

 

https://noctua.at/en/products/cpu-cooler-retail/nh-l9x65-se-am4

 

If you decide to move the CPU cooler to a non-AM4 system, you'd need the extra mounting kit. But it's rare to move CPU coolers between systems on a whim, so getting another mounting kit isn't exactly much of an issue from Noctua. For the non-AM4 one, you'd have to go and get the AM4 kit, since the cooler launched a while ago, so it lacks it.

 

https://noctua.at/en/nm-am4-mounting-kit

 

If you're buying AM4, get the AM4 model.

[Jurrunio]

1 hour ago, wowotek said:

for number 3 what's the difference the standard and the AM4 version. is it interchangeable ?

Standard one (NH-L9x65) has a smaller baseplate and has different brackets that allows it to fit all modern platforms (some older ones as well). SE AM4 has a larger baseplate to take use of the bigger IHS of AM4 CPUs to improve efficiency, at the cost of compatibility with other platforms (AM4 only)

[wowotek]

6 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

None, really.

 

https://noctua.at/en/products/cpu-cooler-retail/nh-l9x65-se-am4

 

If you decide to move the CPU cooler to a non-AM4 system, you'd need the extra mounting kit. But it's rare to move CPU coolers between systems on a whim, so getting another mounting kit isn't exactly much of an issue from Noctua. For the non-AM4 one, you'd have to go and get the AM4 kit, since the cooler launched a while ago, so it lacks it.

 

https://noctua.at/en/nm-am4-mounting-kit

 

If you're buying AM4, get the AM4 model.

 

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Standard one (NH-L9x65) has a smaller baseplate and has different brackets that allows it to fit all modern platforms (some older ones as well). SE AM4 has a larger baseplate to take use of the bigger IHS of AM4 CPUs to improve efficiency, at the cost of compatibility with other platforms (AM4 only)

 

Ok I Got that, but what about the cooling ? for this form factor, would it be a problem? i mean, i need a pretty beefy performance here.

 

Oh and also, i don't really mind a bit of a noise.

[Taf the Ghost]

1 minute ago, wowotek said:

 

 

Ok I Got that, but what about the cooling ? for this form factor, would it be a problem? i mean, i need a pretty beefy performance here.

 

Oh and also, i don't really mind a bit of a noise.

If you're going SFF, the first issue is fitting. If the Noctua cooler will fit, it'll work fine. Just don't OC the CPU and it'll do fine. 

[wowotek]

3 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

If you're going SFF, the first issue is fitting. If the Noctua cooler will fit, it'll work fine. Just don't OC the CPU and it'll do fine. 

no i don't really want to OC anything.

is there any other recommendation for squeezing up my 2000$ ? i got a spare there.

 

Thanks for helping me !

[brob]

6 minutes ago, wowotek said:

 

 

Ok I Got that, but what about the cooling ? for this form factor, would it be a problem? i mean, i need a pretty beefy performance here.

 

Oh and also, i don't really mind a bit of a noise.

Given the case good cooling will be difficult. See https://noctua.at/en/nh_l9x65_tdp_guidelines, especially the note on the 2700X.

If better cooling is desired, you might consider a larger mini-ITX case. Something along the lines of the Fractal Design Define Mini C.

[Taf the Ghost]

8 minutes ago, wowotek said:

no i don't really want to OC anything.

is there any other recommendation for squeezing up my 2000$ ? i got a spare there.

 

Thanks for helping me !

http://www.storagereview.com/kingston_a1000_m2_nvme_ssd_review

 

Might think about something like a 970 Evo, but that's a little more expensive.

[wowotek]

3 minutes ago, brob said:

Given the case good cooling will be difficult. See https://noctua.at/en/nh_l9x65_tdp_guidelines, especially the note on the 2700X.

If better cooling is desired, you might consider a larger mini-ITX case. Something along the lines of the Fractal Design Define Mini C.

well, i game a lot like maybe 12 Hours a day. should i move to larger case ? i really want the SFF

[Taf the Ghost]

2 minutes ago, wowotek said:

well, i game a lot like maybe 12 Hours a day. should i move to larger case ? i really want the SFF

SFF is just smaller than Mid Tower, there's a LOT of options in the space.

[wowotek]

1 minute ago, Taf the Ghost said:

SFF is just smaller than Mid Tower, there's a LOT of options in the space.

i mean, i like the Fractal 202 so much. and i want a case that more or less like that.

[brob]

5 minutes ago, wowotek said:

well, i game a lot like maybe 12 Hours a day. should i move to larger case ? i really want the SFF

It's a bit pricey, but you might consider the Cryorig C7 Cu. It has a TDP rating of 115W which is 10W over the stock TDP of the 2700X, some 20W better than the NH-L9x65.

 

The smaller the case the tougher it will be to cool a 105W TDP cpu like the 2700X. Moving to a slightly larger case allows for a more powerful cpu cooler.

[Jurrunio]

12 minutes ago, wowotek said:

i mean, i like the Fractal 202 so much. and i want a case that more or less like that.

Node 202 will only hold the NH-L9i.

 

No matter the case or even using the C7 Cu, you wont be hitting more than 3.8GHz. Ryzen 2700X gets really hot over the 4GHz clock.

[Jurrunio]

4 minutes ago, brob said:

It's a bit pricey, but you might consider the Cryorig C7 Cu. It has a TDP rating of 115W which is 10W over the stock TDP of the 2700X, some 20W better than the NH-L9x65.

 

The smaller the case the tougher it will be to cool a 105W TDP cpu like the 2700X. Moving to a slightly larger case allows for a more powerful cpu cooler.

Problem with the standard C7 is the fan is horribly loud despite having the same TDP as the L9, so I doubt whether the higher TDP of the C7 Cu was done with high fan speed and noise level