Friend looking for new CPU, mobo, and ram for recording and editing audio. $1000 max budget. I7 or Ryzen?

[LaboonTheWhale]

Hey guys.

 

So. My friend is looking to upgrade his 6 year old system for music creation. He has a max budget of $1000 for a cpu, ram, and mobo.

 

Im purely a gamer so I have no idea on the productivity side of things. He uses Sonar Platinum and Protools 12.

 

Bette to go with a 2700x or an 8700k?

 

He is also looking to get 64gb of ram as well.

 

 

[GoldenLag]

Im not wellhearsed in the world of audio. Generally speaking the 2700x is regarded as the better productivity chip.

 

Are we talking CPU, Mobo and RAM only? 1000$ being the budget for that?

[LaboonTheWhale]

1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

Im not wellhearsed in the world of audio. Generally speaking the 2700x is regarded as the better productivity chip.

 

Are we talking CPU, Mobo and RAM only? 1000$ being the budget for that?

Yes. I presume he has a Nas or a bunch of storage on hand. Video card isn't a big must.

[hconverse02]

2 minutes ago, LaboonTheWhale said:

Yes. I presume he has a Nas or a bunch of storage on hand. Video card isn't a big must.

Does he have one already or does he not think he needs one? Ryzen doesn't have an igpu so you would need one in either east (the intel hd graphics is shit for anything other than 1 monitor)

[Agonizel]

3 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

Generally speaking the 2700x is regarded as the better productivity chip.

 

I'd go with that CPU, a decent x470 motherboard and 3200mhz+ 16GB DDR4 Ram

[GoldenLag]

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DM4JfH
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DM4JfH/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7GHz 8-Core Processor  ($306.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: ASRock - X470 Master SLI/AC ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($143.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($356.98 @ Newegg Business) 
Total: $807.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-05 10:42 EDT-0400

 

64 GB of ram isnt doable. You would need 1100$. This build is upgradable to 64 Gb but atm is 32GB.

 

It also has plenty of room for any cooling. The stick cooler will do the jobb well for the moment. The stock cooler is quite competent

[LaboonTheWhale]

4 minutes ago, hconverse02 said:

Does he have one already or does he not think he needs one? Ryzen doesn't have an igpu so you would need one in either east (the intel hd graphics is shit for anything other than 1 monitor)

He already has his older rig which has one. So I doubt he needs anything updated gpu wise.

[Agonizel]

2 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory

Music production doesn't require much RAM as opposed to video production.

I'd spend the extra 16GB Ram money into a 1050ti because the AMD doesn't have intergrated graphics

 

EDIT: looks like he already has a GPU, so he can spend money on RGB I guess or just not spend it

[GoldenLag]

Just now, Beer_Nontitju said:

Music production doesn't require much RAM as opposed to video production.

I'd spend the extra 16GB Ram money into a 1050ti because the AMD doesn't have intergrated graphics

His friend wanted 64GB of ram. His friend has an older Rig. Like OP mentioned i minute before this

[hconverse02]

4 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DM4JfH
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DM4JfH/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7GHz 8-Core Processor  ($306.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: ASRock - X470 Master SLI/AC ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($143.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($356.98 @ Newegg Business) 
Total: $807.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-05 10:42 EDT-0400

 

64 GB of ram isnt doable. You would need 1100$. This build is upgradable to 64 Gb but atm is 32GB.

 

It also has plenty of room for any cooling. The stick cooler will do the jobb well for the moment. The stock cooler is quite competent

Wrong 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3GHz 8-Core Processor  ($247.00 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350-GAMING 3 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($79.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($717.26 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1044.25
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-05 10:49 EDT-0400

 

 

No reason for the $100 premium for x470 and a 2700x

Edited June 5, 2018 by hconverse02
better ram

[Agonizel]

1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

His friend wanted 64GB of ram. His friend has an older Rig. Like OP mentioned i minute before this

Oh yeah. That's way too much though

[GoldenLag]

Just now, hconverse02 said:

No reason for the $100 premium for x470 and a 2700x

Not wrong. The 2700x is quite nice though. Dunno what cooler the 1700 has. Might want to dish out on a basic tower cooler

[hconverse02]

1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

Not wrong. The 2700x is quite nice though. Dunno what cooler the 1700 has. Might want to dish out on a basic tower cooler

Same old stock cooler, not much of a difference in thermals maybe 5c

[GoldenLag]

2 minutes ago, Beer_Nontitju said:

Oh yeah. That's way too much though

I wont argue with that. Tried to get close to his request thats all

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, hconverse02 said:

Same old stock cooler, not much of a difference in thermals maybe 5c

Not bad. Would do a basic 3.8 ghz overclock on the 1700 to utilize it

[LaboonTheWhale]

4 minutes ago, hconverse02 said:

Wrong 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3GHz 8-Core Processor  ($247.00 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350-GAMING 3 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($79.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($683.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1010.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-05 10:47 EDT-0400

 

No reason for the $100 premium for x470 and a 2700x

Why not 2700x vs 1700? I have a spare Crosshair vi x370 board he could use.

[LaboonTheWhale]

4 minutes ago, hconverse02 said:

Wrong 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3GHz 8-Core Processor  ($247.00 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350-GAMING 3 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($79.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($683.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1010.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-05 10:47 EDT-0400

 

No reason for the $100 premium for x470 and a 2700x

Why not 2700x vs 1700? I have a spare Crosshair vi x370 board he could use.

[GoldenLag]

He can use either. Just need to update the BIOS on the board

4 minutes ago, LaboonTheWhale said:

Why not 2700x vs 1700? I have a spare Crosshair vi x370 board he could use.

2700x comes pre-overclocked and will run at a slightly higher frequency than the 1700 OCed (assuming 4ghz OC, though it is somewhat unlikely). Roughly 200-350mhz faster depending on the number of cores under load. Not to mention some IPC gains.

[GoldenLag]

One question. Does your friend have a OEM key for his system? If so he would need to get a new key as swapping the Mobo invalidates the OEM key as far as i know

[LaboonTheWhale]

33 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

One question. Does your friend have a OEM key for his system? If so he would need to get a new key as swapping the Mobo invalidates the OEM key as far as i know

Even is he does he can still use windows. Just a watermark