Need help picking a processor ?

[skeeler88]

I cant decide between a 2700x or an 8700k. I plan to game at 60 fps at 1080p and hope to one day stream off the same rig. From my knowledge, the 8700k is better for raw gaming while the 2700x is better for all out streaming. I need one that can fit all my needs and do it well. Maybe one day ill edit videos, etc but if anyone can give information, tips, personal knowledge/experience, it would be greatly appreciated. Also I will be paring either card with a gtx 1070 FE. 

[Wh0_Am_1]

2 minutes ago, skeeler88 said:

I cant decide between a 2700x or an 8700k. I plan to game at 60 fps at 1080p and hope to one day stream off the same rig. From my knowledge, the 8700k is better for raw gaming while the 2700x is better for all out streaming. I need one that can fit all my needs and do it well. Maybe one day ill edit videos, etc but if anyone can give information, tips, personal knowledge/experience, it would be greatly appreciated. Also I will be paring either card with a gtx 1070 FE. 

Get the 2700x it can game well and stream, (though not as well as the 8700k if course) but with a 1070 you should not notice any loss in performance.

[Nocte]

The 2700(X) sounds like a solid choice for what you listed. Especially if you are going to do video editing. 

[DrMacintosh]

2700x

[skeeler88]

Just now, Eibe said:

The 2700(X) sounds like a solid choice for what you listed. Especially if you are going to do video editing. 

Video editing could be a possibility once I learn how to do stuff. But I will mostly game at first and then stream 

[jj9987]

I'm pretty sure you're not going to regret your decision, both are great CPUs.

[Nocte]

3 hours ago, skeeler88 said:

Video editing could be a possibility once I learn how to do stuff. But I will mostly game at first and then stream 

It's going to handle gaming and streaming more than better. 

[Princess Luna]

4 hours ago, Eibe said:

The 2700(X) sounds like a solid choice for what you listed. Especially if you are going to do video editing. 

 

4 hours ago, skeeler88 said:

Video editing could be a possibility once I learn how to do stuff. But I will mostly game at first and then stream 

Why? The i7 8700K now destroys the Ryzen 7 line up at video editing thanks to the last update to allow iGPU acceleration:

 

Now the i7 8700K is better for both gaming and content creation, QuickSync which also uses the iGPU makes streaming more than doable, while I have greater hope for Intel's 10nm which will be supported by this chipset than Ryzen 2.

 

Well this is my 2 cents, I'd go with the i7 8700K between the two.

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

I'd say the 8700K. Ryzen 7 isn't a great value because the 8700K kicks its ass in gaming and holds its own or beats in Adobe shit when it comes to productivity

[HayHay]

4 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

 

Why? The i7 8700K now destroys the Ryzen 7 line up at video editing thanks to the last update to allow iGPU acceleration:

 

Now the i7 8700K is better for both gaming and content creation, QuickSync which also uses the iGPU makes streaming more than doable, while I have greater hope for Intel's 10nm which will be supported by this chipset than Ryzen 2.

 

Well this is my 2 cents, I'd go with the i7 8700K between the two.

Most people won't be working with 4K resolutions. Capture cards are mostly 1080p where Quicksync does NOT make too much of a difference. 
Either way, both are good options. I would go with the 2700X because I work with 1080p footage which Ryzen beats Intel in, but if you plan to work with 4K footage, 8700K is the way to go. 

[skeeler88]

12 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

 

Why? The i7 8700K now destroys the Ryzen 7 line up at video editing thanks to the last update to allow iGPU acceleration:

 

Now the i7 8700K is better for both gaming and content creation, QuickSync which also uses the iGPU makes streaming more than doable, while I have greater hope for Intel's 10nm which will be supported by this chipset than Ryzen 2.

 

Well this is my 2 cents, I'd go with the i7 8700K between the two.

Will the 8700k be able to stream and game at the same time better than the 2700x?

[skeeler88]

10 minutes ago, HayHay said:

Most people won't be working with 4K resolutions. Capture cards are mostly 1080p where Quicksync does NOT make too much of a difference. 
Either way, both are good options. I would go with the 2700X because I work with 1080p footage which Ryzen beats Intel in, but if you plan to work with 4K footage, 8700K is the way to go. 

I dont plan to work with 4k footage or play in 4k. I plan to play in 1080p and hopefully stream in 1080p. Which card is best for playing and streaming at the same time ?

[HayHay]

12 minutes ago, skeeler88 said:

I dont plan to work with 4k footage or play in 4k. I plan to play in 1080p and hopefully stream in 1080p. Which card is best for playing and streaming at the same time ?

Go 2700X then, if you do record as well, then it is a better deal and all. Besides, if you get the 2700X, you shouldn't need to buy an extra cooler as the Wraith MAX/whatever box cooler is pretty darn great!

[znips]

So if i were not planing to do streaming of any kind, would the 8700k be the better choice? I'm curious for future me. Thanks!  

[Frankieanime158]

3 hours ago, skeeler88 said:

Will the 8700k be able to stream and game at the same time better than the 2700x?

The 8700k can stream fine, but the 2700x streams significantly better. I was stuck on this decision myself, I went 2700x and haven't looked back. This graph represents percentile of frames lost (the closer to 100% the better). The 2700x is always in the lead, and capable of medium preset encoding. The 8700k can't even touch medium, unless you OC to a minimum of 5ghz, which you'll need an extremely powerful cooler because the 8700k is one of the hottest cpus on the market. However, these numbers can be achieved with the 2700x stock Wraith Prism cooler.

As for FPS, unless you're playing with something like a 1080ti at an absurdly low resolution/setting, both of these CPUs will be within 5% of the FPS of each other. Each will have it's wins. 2700x all the way, much better value.

[skeeler88]

11 hours ago, Frankieanime158 said:

The 8700k can stream fine, but the 2700x streams significantly better. I was stuck on this decision myself, I went 2700x and haven't looked back. This graph represents percentile of frames lost (the closer to 100% the better). The 2700x is always in the lead, and capable of medium preset encoding. The 8700k can't even touch medium, unless you OC to a minimum of 5ghz, which you'll need an extremely powerful cooler because the 8700k is one of the hottest cpus on the market. However, these numbers can be achieved with the 2700x stock Wraith Prism cooler.

As for FPS, unless you're playing with something like a 1080ti at an absurdly low resolution/setting, both of these CPUs will be within 5% of the FPS of each other. Each will have it's wins. 2700x all the way, much better value.

That was one of the most clear and factual answers I have received. Thank you

[O9B0666]

i have a 8700k, im using OBS screen recording while streaming to twitch playing gtav, using a rx470, im having no issues and staying at 60fps. a 8700k can do all of this, anyone want proof i have obs recordings to show it, with cpuz running.

also i might add, im using a h100iv2 for my cpu and staying in the 50's while doing this according to CAM. This cpu does run hot i have noticed and thaught something was wrong myself. Upon over clocking, itruns 5-8 degrees cooler on idle and load overclocked.