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JYAN42

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I was going to go with a modest 500$ apu build, but after I accounted for peripherals, it was around 700$. After that, I decided that since I was earning the money this summer, I might as well work a bit harder to get some more money, so I upped it to a 144Hz monitor for 100$, then decided that I was going to buy rgb fans anyway so I'll just add it to the list, and then I figured that 3 TB of hard drive storage ought to be enough for anyone right? Then I decided to ditch the apu and go for a Ryzen 5 1600 since I was going to get one anyway, and I added the ROG strix 570 I was eying, so now its over 1000$ :|

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Is this dumb or "future proofing" or really dumb?

 

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It's a solid build all-around, and I think it's a better idea to build like this anyways since the APUs aren't really suitable for much more than 1080p low in current titles and medium-high in older ones. I've made a few changes though:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($175.89 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($19.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX B350-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($92.82 @ B&H) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($115.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($69.99 @ Adorama) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($82.16 @ OutletPC) 
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass ATX Mid Tower Case  ($67.98 @ Newegg) 
Case Fan: Deepcool - RF 140 (2-pack) 64.1 CFM  140mm Fan  ($49.00 @ Newegg Business) 
Monitor: MSI - Optix G24C 23.6" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor  ($233.51 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Mouse: Logitech - G203 Prodigy Wired Optical Mouse  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Other: Razer Mouse Bungee - Mouse Cord Management System 
Other: SteelSeries QcK Heavy Gaming Mouse Pad (Black)  ($22.99 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Other: Screwdriver kit ($20.00)
Other: RGB mechanical keyboard ($50.00)
Total: $1030.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-15 00:06 EDT-0400

 

Those SeaSonic units are old and not very suitable for new systems, so I've replaced that. Corsair's current-gen CX units are pretty solid for what they are. The MX-4 isn't necessary since the EVO already comes with thermal paste and you're going to see at most a 2-3C drop in temperatures. Feel free to add it back if you believe it is worthwhile though. I've also replaced the monitor with an MSI Optix G24C. You lose VESA mount compatibility but you keep FreeSync and you gain a VA panel, which has close to IPS viewing angles and colors. I own one, and it is a huge step up from a comparable TN monitor. I'd also recommend just getting normal case fans instead of RGB fans and going with an RGB strip if the intention is to light up your PC. I personally believe that RGB fans are better suited to cases with clear panels like the 460X and 570X, where you can actually see the fans. You can also considering going with Ryzen 2, but it will cost more and the benefit isn't huge for gaming.

Main Rig: CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X | RAM: 32GB (2x16GB) KLEVV CRAS XR RGB DDR4-3600 | Motherboard: Gigabyte B550I AORUS PRO AX | Storage: 512GB SKHynix PC401, 1TB Samsung 970 EVO Plus, 2x Micron 1100 256GB SATA SSDs | GPU: EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3 Ultra 10GB | Cooling: ThermalTake Floe 280mm w/ be quiet! Pure Wings 3 | Case: Sliger SM580 (Black) | PSU: Lian Li SP 850W

 

Server: CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3100 | RAM: 32GB (2x16GB) Crucial DDR4 Pro | Motherboard: ASUS PRIME B550-PLUS AC-HES | Storage: 128GB Samsung PM961, 4TB Seagate IronWolf | GPU: AMD FirePro WX 3100 | Cooling: EK-AIO Elite 360 D-RGB | Case: Corsair 5000D Airflow (White) | PSU: Seasonic Focus GM-850

 

Miscellaneous: Dell Optiplex 7060 Micro (i5-8500T/16GB/512GB), Lenovo ThinkCentre M715q Tiny (R5 2400GE/16GB/256GB), Dell Optiplex 7040 SFF (i5-6400/8GB/128GB)

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9 minutes ago, JYAN42 said:

Is this dumb or "future proofing" or really dumb?

 

the 570 is dumb, and you can always buy peripherals later. Why don't you budget and research every part that you're looking into online. The 1600 with a b350 board that is " 2000 chipset ready  " and youll be future proof to upgrade to any zen that supports it. I would definitely go with nvidia. I would get a 1060 6gb.

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13 minutes ago, JYAN42 said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/JYAN42/saved/mMT2RB

 

I was going to go with a modest 500$ apu build, but after I accounted for peripherals, it was around 700$. After that, I decided that since I was earning the money this summer, I might as well work a bit harder to get some more money, so I upped it to a 144Hz monitor for 100$, then decided that I was going to buy rgb fans anyway so I'll just add it to the list, and then I figured that 3 TB of hard drive storage ought to be enough for anyone right? Then I decided to ditch the apu and go for a Ryzen 5 1600 since I was going to get one anyway, and I added the ROG strix 570 I was eying, so now its over 1000$ :|

i just did the same thing lol  

my build: - B350F Asus Rog mobo - 2700x @4.01Ghz - 250Gb NvME ssd 960 evo - 2x8Gb DDR4 @3200Mhz - Corsair 750w psu -NZXT S340 - 1TB WD Black HDD - Corsair H100iV2 - XFX R9 390 8Gb -  i've spent 1300 on it now, because like a dummy i went and bought a refurb power supply. 

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15 minutes ago, JYAN42 said:

 

 

I was going to go with a modest 500$ apu build, but after I accounted for peripherals, it was around 700$. After that, I decided that since I was earning the money this summer, I might as well work a bit harder to get some more money, so I upped it to a 144Hz monitor for 100$, then decided that I was going to buy rgb fans anyway so I'll just add it to the list, and then I figured that 3 TB of hard drive storage ought to be enough for anyone right? Then I decided to ditch the apu and go for a Ryzen 5 1600 since I was going to get one anyway, and I added the ROG strix 570 I was eying, so now its over 1000$ :|

OK... what's your budget for everything?

skip the 212 evo and get halos fan frames if you need the rgb lighting.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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11 minutes ago, Rob Walsh said:

the 570 is dumb, and you can always buy peripherals later. Why don't you budget and research every part that you're looking into online. The 1600 with a b350 board that is " 2000 chipset ready  " and youll be future proof to upgrade to any zen that supports it. I would definitely go with nvidia. I would get a 1060 6gb.

 

8 minutes ago, Rob Walsh said:

XFX R9 390 8Gb

 

I mean to be fair, that RX 570 will perform as well as your R9 390 while using less power and running cooler, and the only downside is the 4GB VRAM vs 8GB (which isn't necessary at 1080p at least.)

Main Rig: CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X | RAM: 32GB (2x16GB) KLEVV CRAS XR RGB DDR4-3600 | Motherboard: Gigabyte B550I AORUS PRO AX | Storage: 512GB SKHynix PC401, 1TB Samsung 970 EVO Plus, 2x Micron 1100 256GB SATA SSDs | GPU: EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3 Ultra 10GB | Cooling: ThermalTake Floe 280mm w/ be quiet! Pure Wings 3 | Case: Sliger SM580 (Black) | PSU: Lian Li SP 850W

 

Server: CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3100 | RAM: 32GB (2x16GB) Crucial DDR4 Pro | Motherboard: ASUS PRIME B550-PLUS AC-HES | Storage: 128GB Samsung PM961, 4TB Seagate IronWolf | GPU: AMD FirePro WX 3100 | Cooling: EK-AIO Elite 360 D-RGB | Case: Corsair 5000D Airflow (White) | PSU: Seasonic Focus GM-850

 

Miscellaneous: Dell Optiplex 7060 Micro (i5-8500T/16GB/512GB), Lenovo ThinkCentre M715q Tiny (R5 2400GE/16GB/256GB), Dell Optiplex 7040 SFF (i5-6400/8GB/128GB)

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4 minutes ago, TheSLSAMG said:

 

 

I mean to be fair, that RX 570 will perform as well as your R9 390 while using less power and running cooler, and the only downside is the 4GB VRAM vs 8GB (which isn't necessary at 1080p at least.)

my friend had a strix 580 and it didn't come close at 1080p 144hz... so I don't know what you mean. What's *dumb* is paying for a 570 when you could pay the same, less or perhaps a tiny bit more for a much much better card. the 1060 6gb, I just bought one for my girlfriend and it gets higher scores on userbenchmark than my 390.. she has an fx8350 build with non oc slow ddr3. 


edit: i was also recommending a different card than mine, I know there are better less money alternatives. 

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Just now, Rob Walsh said:

my friend had a strix 580 and it didn't come close at 1080p 144hz... so I don't know what you mean. What's *dumb* is paying for a 570 when you could pay the same, less or perhaps a tiny bit more for a much much better card. the 1060 6gb, I just bought one for my girlfriend and it gets higher scores on userbenchmark than my 390.. she has an fx8350 build with non oc slow ddr3. 

Looking at it again, you're probably right about the R9 390. I was going off Fire Strike graphics scores, but the cards seem to manifest their performance different game-to-game.

 

As for "a tiny bit more", you actually have a point, The GTX 1060 6GB Dual from ASUS is $289.99 right now, and that's a better card than either the R9 390 or the RX 570 4GB. 

Main Rig: CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X | RAM: 32GB (2x16GB) KLEVV CRAS XR RGB DDR4-3600 | Motherboard: Gigabyte B550I AORUS PRO AX | Storage: 512GB SKHynix PC401, 1TB Samsung 970 EVO Plus, 2x Micron 1100 256GB SATA SSDs | GPU: EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3 Ultra 10GB | Cooling: ThermalTake Floe 280mm w/ be quiet! Pure Wings 3 | Case: Sliger SM580 (Black) | PSU: Lian Li SP 850W

 

Server: CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3100 | RAM: 32GB (2x16GB) Crucial DDR4 Pro | Motherboard: ASUS PRIME B550-PLUS AC-HES | Storage: 128GB Samsung PM961, 4TB Seagate IronWolf | GPU: AMD FirePro WX 3100 | Cooling: EK-AIO Elite 360 D-RGB | Case: Corsair 5000D Airflow (White) | PSU: Seasonic Focus GM-850

 

Miscellaneous: Dell Optiplex 7060 Micro (i5-8500T/16GB/512GB), Lenovo ThinkCentre M715q Tiny (R5 2400GE/16GB/256GB), Dell Optiplex 7040 SFF (i5-6400/8GB/128GB)

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1 minute ago, TheSLSAMG said:

Looking at it again, you're probably right about the R9 390. I was going off Fire Strike graphics scores, but the cards seem to manifest their performance different game-to-game.

 

As for "a tiny bit more", you actually have a point, The GTX 1060 6GB Dual from ASUS is $289.99 right now, and that's a better card than either the R9 390 or the RX 570 4GB. 

!! Precisely my point lol its a STEAL for anyone who wants to game for cheapsies 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($178.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B360M DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($65.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($152.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($69.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Toshiba - 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($69.99 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon RX 580 8GB Gaming 8G Video Card  ($329.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Corsair - Carbide Series 88R MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MasterWatt 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($31.65 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: AOC - G2460PF 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor  ($208.79 @ Amazon) 
Mouse: Logitech - G203 Prodigy Wired Optical Mouse  ($27.99 @ Amazon) 
Other: Razer Mouse Bungee - Mouse Cord Management System 
Other: SteelSeries QcK Heavy Gaming Mouse Pad (Black)  ($22.99 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Other: Screwdriver kit ($20.00)
Other: RGB mechanical keyboard ($50.00)
Total: $1269.25
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-15 00:36 EDT-0400

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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1 hour ago, JYAN42 said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/JYAN42/saved/mMT2RB

 

I was going to go with a modest 500$ apu build, but after I accounted for peripherals, it was around 700$. After that, I decided that since I was earning the money this summer, I might as well work a bit harder to get some more money, so I upped it to a 144Hz monitor for 100$, then decided that I was going to buy rgb fans anyway so I'll just add it to the list, and then I figured that 3 TB of hard drive storage ought to be enough for anyone right? Then I decided to ditch the apu and go for a Ryzen 5 1600 since I was going to get one anyway, and I added the ROG strix 570 I was eying, so now its over 1000$ :|

 

1 hour ago, JYAN42 said:

Is this dumb or "future proofing" or really dumb?

 

The joys of "feature creep".

 

I think you need to lay out exactly what you want the System to do. Then things can be customized to fit that. You went from a simple APU build to "RGB All The Things!" pretty fast.

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3 hours ago, JYAN42 said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/JYAN42/saved/mMT2RB

 

I was going to go with a modest 500$ apu build, but after I accounted for peripherals, it was around 700$. After that, I decided that since I was earning the money this summer, I might as well work a bit harder to get some more money, so I upped it to a 144Hz monitor for 100$, then decided that I was going to buy rgb fans anyway so I'll just add it to the list, and then I figured that 3 TB of hard drive storage ought to be enough for anyone right? Then I decided to ditch the apu and go for a Ryzen 5 1600 since I was going to get one anyway, and I added the ROG strix 570 I was eying, so now its over 1000$ :|

Build something like this...

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($175.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($74.39 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: ADATA - XPG GAMMIX D10 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($84.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($69.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.79 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Dual Video Card  ($289.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($38.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Monitor: Acer - GN246HL 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor  ($196.62 @ B&H) 
Keyboard: Corsair - K65 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Mouse: Logitech - G502 Proteus Spectrum Wired Optical Mouse  ($49.99 @ Best Buy) 
Total: $1130.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-15 03:22 EDT-0400

 

U can get the screw driver kit brand new fr about $10-15..

Here's a link fr that...https://www.amazon.com/Computer-Repair-Kits/b?ie=UTF8&node=13825561

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Mobo - ASRock X470 Taichi

Memory - G.Skill Trident Z RGB (8x2 3200MHz) 

Storage - Sabrent Rocket 1TB - Seagate Barracuda 2TBWD Black 1TB

GPU - MSI GeForce GTX 980Ti LIGHTNING

CaseFractal Design Meshify C

PSUSuper Flower Leadex II Gold 650W

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