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[LixCoffee]

alright, I start my job next week and I finally put together a PC that I can afford in the next several weeks. 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($178.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B360 HD3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($84.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($149.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.79 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: KFA2 - GeForce GTX 780 Ti 2GB OC Video Card 
Case: Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($24.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($64.89 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $563.64
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-30 10:27 EDT-0400

[VEXICUS]

Just now, LixCoffee said:

alright, I start my job next week and I finally put together a PC that I can afford in the next several weeks. 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($178.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B360 HD3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($84.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Team - Elite Plus 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory 
Memory: Team - Elite Plus 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.79 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: KFA2 - GeForce GTX 780 Ti 2GB OC Video Card 
Case: Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($24.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($64.89 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $413.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-30 10:25 EDT-0400

Do u already HV the 780ti??

 

[LixCoffee]

no but it would be around 100-150$ from couple sources 

[VEXICUS]

2 minutes ago, LixCoffee said:

no but it would be around 100-150$ from couple sources 

BUILD SOMETHING LIKE THIS.....

 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($178.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B360M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($87.31 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team - T-Force Delta RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($159.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($69.99 @ Adorama) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.79 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: KFA2 - GeForce GTX 780 Ti 2GB OC Video Card  ($150.00) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($38.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MasterWatt 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($34.65 @ Newegg) 
Total: $779.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-30 10:30 EDT-0400

[SquintyG33Rs]

yeah man you need an SSD. it's just 60 bucks more and it's a game changer the rest is up to your preferences. I'd recommend a k SKU CPU even thought it's much more expensive because it will be much easier to resell at a much higher price. it will still be worth over 200$ 3 years later (as far as history servers)

[VEXICUS]

22 minutes ago, SquintyG33Rs said:

yeah man you need an SSD. it's just 60 bucks more and it's a game changer the rest is up to your preferences. I'd recommend a k SKU CPU even thought it's much more expensive because it will be much easier to resell at a much higher price. it will still be worth over 200$ 3 years later (as far as history servers)

U need to keep an eye if a person is on a budget or not......the 'k' varient of processors r probably gonna cost more.....also u'll need a decent cooler along with it.....ND u'll HV to get a z370 board to take full advantage of that 'k' series chip...

I agree with you that it has better resale value.....but I hope u get my point...

[ImNotDeViLzzz]

36 minutes ago, SquintyG33Rs said:

yeah man you need an SSD. it's just 60 bucks more and it's a game changer the rest is up to your preferences. I'd recommend a k SKU CPU even thought it's much more expensive because it will be much easier to resell at a much higher price. it will still be worth over 200$ 3 years later (as far as history servers)

An SSD is NOT a need.  I still don't have one I am just fine in everything I do on the pcs I use.

[VEXICUS]

14 minutes ago, ImNotDeViLzzz said:

An SSD is NOT a need.  I still don't have one I am just fine in everything I do on the pcs I use.

Get an SSD then...... u'll notice a significant improvement in boot times ND loading times....

[SquintyG33Rs]

1 hour ago, ImNotDeViLzzz said:

An SSD is NOT a need.  I still don't have one I am just fine in everything I do on the pcs I use.

 

i mourn for you too.......

 

 

 

 

jokes aside of course your fucking fine with everything you do. it doesn't prevent you from doing anything. it's just excruciatingly slow. before ssd's became wide spread storage was the single biggest bottleneck in a system since the dawn of computers.... but in this day and age there is no excuse for not having one, it's as if you had a 10 year old CPU you where buying today for a new system and you'd be buying it new at MSRP. that's preposturous

[SquintyG33Rs]

1 hour ago, vexicus365 said:

U need to keep an eye if a person is on a budget or not......the 'k' varient of processors r probably gonna cost more.....also u'll need a decent cooler along with it.....ND u'll HV to get a z370 board to take full advantage of that 'k' series chip...

I agree with you that it has better resale value.....but I hope u get my point...

yes and yes but not necessarily having to overclock. because somebody that's too shy to do it anyway still gets a bit of performance and gains allot on the resale so the current cost is higher but you get more at the end 3 years down the line. making the future upgrade cost less. of course if you can't afford it don't buy it, i'm sorry if my common sense forgets to mention that part...

 

it's just a suggestion as a thing to keep in mind because the price difference of the product stack does not stay the same over time. the ones that have less apparent value drop allot while the ones people look for later on hoping to juice out every bit of performance have keep much more of their value. and that's completely besides the point of the performance you have while you are using the chip.

to me it's worth the price premium not because i can overclock it, but because i can sell it back down the line and the difference from the k to non k then is bigger than it is now when i buy it. so i saved myself money on my new system.

 

but for that i'm also taking into account that i KNOW i will sell it and I KNOW i will buy a new system. some people stay with their machine for 5~6 maybe even 7 years. if that's your plan then don't do this. the computer's perceived value at that point is barely worth scraps. if you pull 100 or 110$ at that point will depend more on your bargaining abilities than what the specs are.

[VEXICUS]

1 hour ago, SquintyG33Rs said:

yes and yes but not necessarily having to overclock. because somebody that's too shy to do it anyway still gets a bit of performance and gains allot on the resale so the current cost is higher but you get more at the end 3 years down the line. making the future upgrade cost less. of course if you can't afford it don't buy it, i'm sorry if my common sense forgets to mention that part...

 

it's just a suggestion as a thing to keep in mind because the price difference of the product stack does not stay the same over time. the ones that have less apparent value drop allot while the ones people look for later on hoping to juice out every bit of performance have keep much more of their value. and that's completely besides the point of the performance you have while you are using the chip.

to me it's worth the price premium not because i can overclock it, but because i can sell it back down the line and the difference from the k to non k then is bigger than it is now when i buy it. so i saved myself money on my new system.

 

but for that i'm also taking into account that i KNOW i will sell it and I KNOW i will buy a new system. some people stay with their machine for 5~6 maybe even 7 years. if that's your plan then don't do this. the computer's perceived value at that point is barely worth scraps. if you pull 100 or 110$ at that point will depend more on your bargaining abilities than what the specs are.

I5 8600k at the current date costs $239.99....

How how can u expect to get over $200 after 2 years......

[seagate_surfer]

Thanks for considering Seagate! Feel free to reach out if you have any questions on the HDD.

[LixCoffee]

just wanna let you know im not looking to overclock.... So getting a better cooler and spending more money on a MOBO wouldn't be worth it. 

 

also upgrading my processor wouldn't be helpful for me anyways..... overclocking is meh to me. Im fine with out of box.

[LixCoffee]

Would a hybrid work? 

Seagate - FireCuda 500GB 2.5" 5400RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive

$52.89

[seagate_surfer]

4 minutes ago, LixCoffee said:

Would a hybrid work? 

Seagate - FireCuda 500GB 2.5" 5400RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive

$52.89

Without investing in full-blown SSD, a hybrid like our FireCuda can be a great solution for getting both faster boot times and bang-for-your-buck storage capacity. The drive works by taking which data you access most frequently as you use it more and more, and placing that on the SSD cache portion for performance. The particular FireCuda you've listed is a 2.5", 5400 RPM version. There is also a 3.5", 7200 RPM version which may be a better fit as it will be faster. It doesn't come in 500GB capacity, but the 1TB capacity should be somewhere around close to the price range of the 2TB BarraCuda originally listed. 

[NelizMastr]

FYI, there is no 780Ti 2GB. The 780Ti is a 3GB card. Must be a typo or a fake card (likely a 680 in disguise  )

[LixCoffee]

i ditched that, probably gunna buy a 970 now. Same price better performance. 

[LixCoffee]

Whats the difference between and 5400rpm and 7200rpm I understand at the minimum its faster but don't really know what the meaning of it is.

[JoostinOnline]

1 minute ago, LixCoffee said:

Whats the difference between and 5400rpm and 7200rpm I understand at the minimum its faster but don't really know what the meaning of it is.

7200RPM is faster.  RPM stands for rotations per minute.  A hard drive is spinning disks and a needle that reads them, similar to a record player, but it's magnetic.  The faster it spins, the faster it can access the data.

[LixCoffee]

is it a huge difference like extremely noticeable?

[seagate_surfer]

10 minutes ago, LixCoffee said:

is it a huge difference like extremely noticeable?

Depends on what you're doing. For accessing you Operating System & loading applications, it can feel like quite a difference. If it's just extra storage for your photos, music, stuff you just need to maximize TB's of storage space for, it may not be seen as all that noticeable. This also depends on the individual user and what you're used to. What you consider a noticeable difference could be either more or less than what I consider a noticeable difference. If you want a more nuts-and-bolts comparison, here are a few max sustained transfer rates of our models for example (with linked spec sheets):

2TB, 2.5", 5400 RPM BarraCuda: up to 140 MB/s (Megabytes per second)
2TB, 3.5", 7200 RPM BarraCuda: up to 210 MB/s

[LixCoffee]

I mean, lmao This is my first build with a graphics card in it. At this point im used to slow lol. So im mean going for a 5400rpm wouldn't make a huge notice to me i think.

 

also im pretty sure this is the only computer with a decent HDD

[RyzenDoctor]

Honestly everything depends on your budget and your intended use. Overall an SSD or a hybrid drive make most sense as an investment. If you set your budget, use scenario, and where you're buying the parts it'll be easier to recommend parts.

[SquintyG33Rs]

On 4/30/2018 at 2:08 PM, vexicus365 said:

I5 8600k at the current date costs $239.99....

How how can u expect to get over $200 after 2 years......

sorry i was thinking in canadian roopies