New CPU

[newbie01]

So the new ryzen line up just released and I have looked at some reviews and they are not much different than the previous ryzen line up. So I am wondering if I should just get a ryzen 1700 or just get the new ryzen 2700x. It is just a $60 difference. First time building pc. 

 

*edit* this is the rig I am building: https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/ThqtpG

 

Kind of went all out budget is $4k, still need to buy a monitor preferably and Peripheral's but excluded that out of my build for some reason. Maybe to justifiy the cost of the pc alone hahahaha. 

 

Cheers

[Canada EH]

Depends if $60 is a lot of money to you are if its peanuts. Also does the 2700x come with a fan, I dont know if the 1700 does or not.

 

 

[TSL]

There can actually be up to 15% performance increase in some tasks. As well as having better memory compatibility. You should get the 2700 and OC it to make it like a 2700X. Then it's only a $30 premium.

[Jurrunio]

The improvement in 2700x from 1700, when both are overclocked as much as possible, is small. I dont think it's worth $60. Spend that for larger/faster SSD, higher frequency RAM, more case fans, better case, anythinb but on the CPU.

[Canada EH]

The X is a better binned cpu is it not?

[TSL]

1 minute ago, Canada EH said:

The X is a better binned cpu is it not?

Yes, but based on most reviews thus far. All the chips will generally hit 4.2Ghz. The X's better binning really only allows for XFR to boost it to 4.3Ghz. There's really no point in OC'ing a X chip as XFR is already doing a really good job of getting the most performance from the chip. Getting a non X up to 4.2 improves performance over stock significantly and comes within a few percentages if not the same as the X.

[DarkSmith2]

ofc you should get the 2700x its 3-4times faster in gaming than the 1800x according to anandtech 

 (jk)

9 minutes ago, TSL said:

Yes, but based on most reviews thus far. All the chips will generally hit 4.2Ghz. The X's better binning really only allows for XFR to boost it to 4.3Ghz. There's really no point in OC'ing a X chip as XFR is already doing a really good job of getting the most performance from the chip. Getting a non X up to 4.2 improves performance over stock significantly and comes within a few percentages if not the same as the X.

oh oh, we will see. people also thought that about 4GHz with the older Ryzen GEN.. turned out that average is 3.8GHz ^^

[newbie01]

7 minutes ago, TSL said:

Yes, but based on most reviews thus far. All the chips will generally hit 4.2Ghz. The X's better binning really only allows for XFR to boost it to 4.3Ghz. There's really no point in OC'ing a X chip as XFR is already doing a really good job of getting the most performance from the chip. Getting a non X up to 4.2 improves performance over stock significantly and comes within a few percentages if not the same as the X.

yeah, that's what I have seen from majority of reviews is that the new 2700x is only able to clock to 4.2ghz, I am wondering is really much of a differnce between a 1700 clocked at 3.8ghz (average a person gets on the chip) and 4.2ghz. Basically is there a difference between 4 ghz? 

[TSL]

1 minute ago, newbie01 said:

yeah, that's what I have seen from majority of reviews is that the new 2700x is only able to clock to 4.2ghz, I am wondering is really much of a differnce between a 1700 clocked at 3.8ghz (average a person gets on the chip) and 4.2ghz. Basically is there a difference between 4 ghz? 

Yes there is. In some games and benchmarks there is up to a 15% performance increase. Other tasks are as low as 2% but on average around 8-10% more performance across the board.

[TSL]

2 minutes ago, newbie01 said:

yeah, that's what I have seen from majority of reviews is that the new 2700x is only able to clock to 4.2ghz, I am wondering is really much of a differnce between a 1700 clocked at 3.8ghz (average a person gets on the chip) and 4.2ghz. Basically is there a difference between 4 ghz? 

With both chips at 4Ghz, there is a slight IPC improvement down to the 12nm process most likely. About 3-5%. Then add an extra 200Mhz on top and this is where you start getting up to the 10-15% more performance.

[newbie01]

I think I messed up real bad. I looked at my pc build log in pcpartpicker and it states that I would need to use an older cpu to update my bios then I will be able to use the new 2700x? Can I not update the bios through a USB without placing in the cpu?

[DarkSmith2]

5 minutes ago, newbie01 said:

I think I messed up real bad. I looked at my pc build log in pcpartpicker and it states that I would need to use an older cpu to update my bios then I will be able to use the new 2700x? Can I not update the bios through a USB without placing in the cpu?

AMD will lend you one, if you sent it back. (no joke)

[newbie01]

10 minutes ago, DarkSmith2 said:

AMD will lend you one, if you sent it back. (no joke)

Cool, another cost to add to shipping it back hahaha fml.

[newbie01]

Hey guys just found out a pc store near my location offers bios update serviec for $30. So that's cool