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Replace Graphics Card or everything else

Not really paid too much attention to the PC market for a few years, didn't really think I had to as what I've got worked fine and nothing coming out really made an upgrade worthwhile.

 

I've hit a point where I'd like to start upgrading my rig as I am having to dial it back a little in some of the newer titles, current specs are as follows.

 

Intel Core I7 4770K

16GB Hyper X DDR3 RAM

ASUS Maximus VII Ranger Motherboard

Nvidia GTX 970 4GB Graphics Card.

 

I don't want to do everything in one go as its simply too expensive but from what I can tell its pretty much a case of all the above excluding the graphics card, or just replace the graphics card.

 

Just after some opinions on which way round to upgrade, and which path would see the bigger benefit straight away.

 

Was thinking of going for the following eventually

Torn between the I5 8600K and the 8700K, frankly I think both would be an improvement and as the I5 is a 6 core and I don't do a huge amount of CPU intensive stuff might just go for that.

Really not sure on graphics cards, I like the idea of an AMD card but don't understand their product line or where it matches competing Nvidia cards, thats drawing me to the 1070.

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just get a better GPU, the 4770k won't bottleneck a 1070/80.

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I can assuredly tell you that you don’t need the 8700k

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Your specs are more than fine. Just get a 1070 and you're gucci for everything.

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CPU upgrade wont bring gaming performance anywhere better, I'm certain on that.

 

Nvidia's new products will launch in summer, so either wait for that and decide later or buy a 1070 now.

 

AMD's competitor to the GTX 1070 is the Vega 56, though both Vega 56 and 64 (N64 anyone?), the current flagship of AMD, only sits around the same level as GTX 1070 and 1080, still not reaching the 1080ti. They are stupidly expensive though because of low supply (they use rare and expensive HBM2 as VRAM, which limits production), so forget those.

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5 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

just get a better GPU, the 4770k won't bottleneck a 1070/80.

 

Just now, dionkoffie said:

Your specs are more than fine. Just get a 1070 and you're gucci for everything.

This is exactly why I've sat on the system I've got for so long, besides a few minor issues it just works and feels just as capable as much newer hardware, it doesn't feel like anything new would be a huge jump.

 

if I go for the GPU now will I notice the difference if I was to upgrade to one of the new Intel CPUs a few months down the line or is the difference really not large enough to warrant the extra costs? To be honest its stock clocked at the moment so there is room for improvement there as far as performance goes.

5 minutes ago, ScytheTrain said:

I can assuredly tell you that you don’t need the 8700k

 

I didn't think so it looked more like a product from the higher end chipset, if an I5 does the job then I'd be tempted by one, but I do like having a bit of futureproofing/versitility.

 

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3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

CPU upgrade wont bring gaming performance anywhere better, I'm certain on that.

 

Nvidia's new products will launch in summer, so either wait for that and decide later or buy a 1070 now.

 

AMD's competitor to the GTX 1070 is the Vega 56, though both Vega 56 and 64 (N64 anyone?), the current flagship of AMD, only sits around the same level as GTX 1070 and 1080, still not reaching the 1080ti. They are stupidly expensive though because of low supply (they use rare and expensive HBM2 as VRAM, which limits production), so forget those.

Maybe its sensible to just save up get whatever the new version of the 1080ti is when they come out. Current system is not exactly deal breaking, its just starting to lag behind a little on new games and I have the opportunity to do something about it.

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If its for games, just get a better GPU.

I have my 4770k paired with 1080ti and I play at 165Hz 1440p monitor, the CPU is still kicking strong even for these high refresh rates so there is absolutely no reason to upgrade it unless you need to do some workloads that would benefit from a better CPU.

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18 minutes ago, Zahkyto said:

if I go for the GPU now will I notice the difference if I was to upgrade to one of the new Intel CPUs a few months down the line or is the difference really not large enough to warrant the extra costs? To be honest its stock clocked at the moment so there is room for improvement there as far as performance goes.

not really, no.

barely any difference with an i5 8400 at 4.8ghz and the 8700k and 8600k aren't that much faster too, and that's with a 1080ti.

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Unless you play an insane amount of AC: origins Which likes slot of cores and speed the gpu upgrade Will net you all the performance upgrade you need

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Thanks for the replies and advice, I think I'm just going to stick with what I've got for the immediate future with the thought of potentially upgrading the graphics card in the near future.

 

I would like to see if Nvidia do come out with anything new and by the time they do I can put aside some extra money and go for a better one perhaps.

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Not sure how the market is where you are but some people have actually opted for a used 970/980 as a budget option if they have found a good deal due to the current GPU price spike.

 

So probably worth waiting for price drops and also if NVIDIA drops their new line.

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