Thoughts on server

[Domagoj3077]

Hello fellow users,

I am getting server in next few days and this is my last check before buying 

This is my current sketch for server (Note; I already have drives)

PCPartPicker part list: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/Y7ycYT
Price breakdown by merchant: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/Y7ycYT/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (€284.90 @ Caseking) 
Motherboard: Asus - Prime Z370-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€146.55 @ Mindfactory) 
Memory: Kingston - FURY 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  (€180.59 @ Alza) 
Storage: Kingston - A400 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€39.19 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Western Digital - WD Purple 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€95.06 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Western Digital - WD Purple 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€95.06 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Western Digital - WD Purple 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€95.06 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Western Digital - Red 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€94.45 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case: Fractal Design - Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  (€95.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€92.78 @ Mindfactory) 
Wired Network Adapter: Intel - EXPI9404PTL PCI-Express x4 10/100/1000 Mbps Network Adapter  (€70.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €1289.63
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-03-26 00:23 CEST+0200

 

The OS I am gonna be using is VMware ESXi with Win Server 2012 R2 VM for Storage, Plex Media Server, Backups & Print Server, Another layer of ESXi for education purposes & some Linux distros for game & TS3 server

[paddy-stone]

OK, well first off why the purple drives? they are only around 20 Euros cheaper than getting double the capacity on red drives.

[SamuraiXV1]

why do you want such an expensive cpu for a server?

[paddy-stone]

Ram, would go with 1x 16GB, leaving room for more sticks for upgrade when and if needed.. and also is faster at 3200 https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/VcTrxr/gskill-memory-f43200c16s16gvk

[paddy-stone]

A;so can get a 4x Gigabit NIC for like 20 euros on ebay

[KarathKasun]

Purple drives are for DVR/security camera use.

[Electronics Wizardy]

why 8700?

 

Id go with a used dual lga 2011 system, much more ram, cheaper, offical esxi support, more cpu power.

 

Look for a dell r720.

 

With esxi you normally want a hadware raid card if you want raid.

 

 

Id get a better ssd like a 860 evo or pro.

 

 

 

[KarathKasun]

1 minute ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

why 8700?

 

Id go with a used dual lga 2011 system, much more ram, cheaper, offical esxi support, more cpu power.

 

Look for a dell r720.

 

With esxi you normally want a hadware raid card if you want raid.

 

 

Id get a better ssd like a 860 evo or pro.

 

 

 

Servers like that tend to be loud and obnoxious.

 

Id personally get a cheap Chinese x79 board and a Xeon E5-2680.

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, KarathKasun said:

Servers like that tend to be loud and obnoxious.

they are, but you can just shove it in a closet.

 

Also the r720's really aren't that bad for a rack server, like louder desktop noise, not normal server.

 

And if you want a normal desktop you can get a t620 for a tower.

[Domagoj3077]

25 minutes ago, paddy-stone said:

OK, well first off why the purple drives? they are only around 20 Euros cheaper than getting double the capacity on red drives.

 

16 minutes ago, KarathKasun said:

Purple drives are for DVR/security camera use.

I already noted I own the drives

16 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

why 8700?

 

Id go with a used dual lga 2011 system, much more ram, cheaper, offical esxi support, more cpu power.

Cause of power consumption, I can't go beyond 550W, Can you link for german ebay the good deal for server

16 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

With esxi you normally want a hadware raid card if you want raid.

I will not do RAID, but I will in future when I get more money and get bigger and better server 

 

24 minutes ago, SamuraiXV1 said:

why do you want such an expensive cpu for a server?

Its not expensive for my needs

22 minutes ago, paddy-stone said:

Ram, would go with 1x 16GB, leaving room for more sticks for upgrade when and if needed.. and also is faster at 3200 https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/VcTrxr/gskill-memory-f43200c16s16gvk

I forgot to mention I am pulling out RAM from my rig & I'll for sure look for upgrade so I can have my 32 GB's of RAM. That kit in specs is until I get 1x 16 GB stick

[KarathKasun]

2 minutes ago, Domagoj3077 said:

I already noted I own the drives

Was more of a response to "why purple drives?".

 

Just be sure to use some sort of routine error checking on the Purples if you are using them for normal data, they ignore fouled reads.

[Domagoj3077]

17 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Look for a dell r720.

Prices for that thing are insane around 3000 euros which I cannot afford atm.

18 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Id get a better ssd like a 860 evo or pro.

I got ssd for 20 euros and I need only to start VMware ESXi and have VHD's for VM boot drives.

[Electronics Wizardy]

3 minutes ago, Domagoj3077 said:

Cause of power consumption, I can't go beyond 550W, Can you link for german ebay the good deal for server

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Dell-PowerEdge-R720-19-2U-8x-2-5-SFF-2x-Intel-XEON-E5-2600-v1-v2-PERC-SAS-SATA/322926062642?hash=item4b2fe4ac32:g:OccAAOSwjI5ar~ea

 

They idle about about 120w depending on ram and drives, max load is about 300.

 

Id get more ram, 16 is very low for your use.

[Domagoj3077]

Just now, KarathKasun said:

Was more of a response to "why purple drives?".

 

Just be sure to use some sort of routine error checking on the Purples if you are using them for normal data, they ignore fouled reads.

I got purple drives cause they were on discount in local store for 30% off compared to Red drives.

[Domagoj3077]

Just now, Electronics Wizardy said:

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Dell-PowerEdge-R720-19-2U-8x-2-5-SFF-2x-Intel-XEON-E5-2600-v1-v2-PERC-SAS-SATA/322926062642?hash=item4b2fe4ac32:g:OccAAOSwjI5ar~ea

 

They idle about about 120w depending on ram and drives, max load is about 300.

 

Id get more ram, 16 is very low for your use.

59.00 EUR shipping perfection.

There are no feedback from people for that and I am not confident for giving that amount of money to seller.

Also where can I put my 3.5" drives ?

[SamuraiXV1]

take a look at the HP Z600 as well its a workstation so not sure how many drives but it uses ddr3 ecc which is cheap and it has plenty of cpu power.

[KarathKasun]

E5-2680 V2, 10c/20t, 115w, ~$150 on e-bay

 

X79 Board, unbeanded, can use ECC memory with Xeons, ~$130 on ebay, looks like this...

 

Put it in whatever case you want.

[Domagoj3077]

Just now, KarathKasun said:

E5-2680 V2, 10c/20t, 115w, ~$150 on e-bay

 

X79 Board, unbeanded, ~$130 on ebay, looks like this...

 

Put it in whatever case you want.

Is it avaliable on german ebay cause I don't want to add 50% of price cause of import and taxes ?

It kinda looks sketchy I would rather look for something like ASUS.

[KarathKasun]

8 minutes ago, Domagoj3077 said:

Is it avaliable on german ebay cause I don't want to add 50% of price cause of import and taxes ?

It kinda looks sketchy I would rather look for something like ASUS.

 

Looks like an OEM board TBH.

 

Use ebay.de and see what you can find for x79 motherboards.

 

Most will come from China unfortunately.

https://www.ebay.de/itm/NEW-X79-LGA-2011-ATX-Intel-Motherboard-DDR3-REG-ECC-RAM-USB-3-i7-CPU-E5-2670/123006173057?hash=item1ca3bd3f81:g:xpsAAOSwe7lZ5QuN

 

Used ASUS X79 boards look to be 299eur.

 

Heres an ASRock one...

https://www.ebay.de/itm/ASRock-X79-Extreme4-Rev-1-03-Intel-X79-Mainboard-ATX-Sockel-2011-141136/112801961565?hash=item1a4385565d:g:z1IAAOSwgeBaexoL