Looking for a cpu

[AngelRafa1]

Im looking for a better cpu i got right now a gtx 1070 / i3 7100 which cpu does not bottleneck the gtx 1070 

[R3ep3r]

i5, i7, Ryzen 5, ryzen 7 etc.

[JoostinOnline]

Look for a used i7-6700k on eBay.  Even if you don't overclock it, it's much better than the regular 6700.  You can get one for as low as $220.  If that's too much, then a 6600k.

[Jurrunio]

Best for games is the 8600k. It's only a bit more expensive than ryzen because of the Z370 mobo and cooler it needs.

[Emberstone]

If you're only worried about gaming, you should probably be looking at the i5-8400, i5-8600K, i7-8700, or i7-8700K.

 

Get the best you can afford, pretty much. If you're not overclocking, you can probably skip a K model and save some cash since that's where most of their value comes from. Even an 8400 will easily drive a 1070. Coffee Lake ain't no slouch.

[Guest The Viking]

1700/1700x

[JoostinOnline]

1 hour ago, Emberstone said:

If you're only worried about gaming, you should probably be looking at the i5-8400, i5-8600K, i7-8700, or i7-8700K.

 

Get the best you can afford, pretty much. If you're not overclocking, you can probably skip a K model and save some cash since that's where most of their value comes from. Even an 8400 will easily drive a 1070. Coffee Lake ain't no slouch.

 

1 minute ago, The Viking said:

1700/1700x

 

1 hour ago, Jurrunio said:

Best for games is the 8600k. It's only a bit more expensive than ryzen because of the Z370 mobo and cooler it needs.

Am I the only one who realizes that he'll need to upgrade his motherboard for those, when he can keep the same one with a 6700k?

[Jurrunio]

6 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

 

 

Am I the only one who realizes that he'll need to upgrade his motherboard for those, when he can keep the same one with a 6700k?

6700k isnt cheap to get yet. Also OP doesnt say whether he has a Z170/270 mobo, which can be a BIG difference.

[JoostinOnline]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

6700k isnt cheap to get yet. Also OP doesnt say whether he has a Z170/270 mobo, which can be a BIG difference.

It's about the same price as all the others suggested, and less when you consider that he doesn't need to buy a new motherboard.  And as I pointed out, even if he doesn't have a Z series board, it's still a great CPU and much better than the regular 6700/7700.  A Z170 board could be an upgrade down the line, along with a proper cooler.  The Intel cooler will run a 6700k at stock speeds (yes, I've tested it).

[Jurrunio]

45 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

It's about the same price as all the others suggested, and less when you consider that he doesn't need to buy a new motherboard.  And as I pointed out, even if he doesn't have a Z series board, it's still a great CPU and much better than the regular 6700/7700.  A Z170 board could be an upgrade down the line, along with a proper cooler.  The Intel cooler will run a 6700k at stock speeds (yes, I've tested it).

If he gets 6700k (let's say he has Z mobo), it's not going to last till it breaks like the unlocked 8th gen i5/i7 will. This makes me think that the extra money on the mobo is well-spent.

[JoostinOnline]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

If he gets 6700k (let's say he has Z mobo), it's not going to last till it breaks like the unlocked 8th gen i5/i7 will. This makes me think that the extra money on the mobo is well-spent.

Fair point, but there's usually always something better out there.  Why get i3-8100 when you can get an i5-8400.  Why get an 8400 when you can get an 8600k.  And so on.  Getting the best and getting the best you can afford are rarely the same.

 

The 6700k is a good purchase, and should last at least as long as a 1070, probably much longer.  He asked for something that won't bottleneck his 1070.  This more than meets his requirements for the least amount of money.

[Jurrunio]

19 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

Fair point, but there's usually always something better out there.  Why get i3-8100 when you can get an i5-8400.  Why get an 8400 when you can get an 8600k.  And so on.  Getting the best and getting the best you can afford are rarely the same.

 

The 6700k is a good purchase, and should last at least as long as a 1070, probably much longer.  He asked for something that won't bottleneck his 1070.  This more than meets his requirements for the least amount of money.

I didnt recommend 8th gen i3 because why not use a Sky/Kaby i5 instead. i5-8400 isnt that good either since the clock speed isnt high. That's how I ended up on the 8600k. 8700k only adds hyperthreading on top of that, which isnt all that useful to a 6 core processor in games and is especially not good for the wallet since it costs 40% more.

 

6700k is only good if you get one for a good price (even $200 is too expensive for a dead-end chip), but from what I can find, they are selling for around $250 on ebay (excluding bids, those dont have a set price).

[Ordinarily_Greater]

3 hours ago, AngelRafa1 said:

Im looking for a better cpu i got right now a gtx 1070 / i3 7100 which cpu does not bottleneck the gtx 1070 

i5-7500 will be just fine to hold that 1070

[JoostinOnline]

3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

I didnt recommend 8th gen i3 because why not use a Sky/Kaby i5 instead. i5-8400 isnt that good either since the clock speed isnt high. That's how I ended up on the 8600k. 8700k only adds hyperthreading on top of that, which isnt all that useful to a 6 core processor in games and is especially not good for the wallet since it costs 40% more.

 

6700k is only good if you get one for a good price (even $200 is too expensive for a dead-end chip), but from what I can find, they are selling for around $250 on ebay (excluding bids, those dont have a set price).

I wasn't actually suggesting the 8100, just pointing out that price is very important.

 

The prices jump around on the 6700k quite a bit on eBay.  Ones for 220-230 appear fairly regularly, but are purchased in a matter of hours.  I'm not really sure how it's a dead end chip.  It performs excellently with modern games, and it will be quite awhile before hexacore is even fully utilized by the majority of games.  Too many people have quad cores.

 

There isn't much point to this discussion until we find out what the OP's budget is.

[Guest The Viking]

6700K is still a good chip, used to game on it before getting a 1800x for productivity, and the 6700k remains superior in most games. But yes, after the 7700K and the 8700K, 6700K is starting to get old.

 

if OP is going for new mobo too then I still stand by 1700/1700x  

[JoostinOnline]

16 minutes ago, The Viking said:

But yes, after the 7700K and the 8700K, 6700K is starting to get old.

The 7700k is barely better.  Maybe 5% on average.  Because it's the best of the Skylake/Kaby Lake line though, used chips have remained at nearly the same price as retail.  It's the same with the 4790k.  Getting a 6700k will save you $80 easy.  It's a much better buy.

 

Obviously, if the OP can afford a new motherboard and an 8600k/8700k (or 1700, if he does content creation), that will offer much better performance.  It's just a matter of cost and usage.

[Spudbilly]

What in the world are you guys basing your opinion on!!!  You tube videos??? Website reviews??? Personal experience?  Why dont you guys back up your opinion. 

 

My personal experience is that my i5 3570 and rx 580 work well together. A i7 3770 would be better. Based on this combo and how i have seen it work. I am speculation that a i7 6700 would do great. 

 

Here is a good review that shows performance of that combo.

https://www.google.ca/amp/www.eurogamer.net/amp/digitalfoundry-2016-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-review

 

Also OP. Please include specs and budget so that people can help you with arguing with rach other. 

[Jrasero]

8 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

6700k isnt cheap to get yet. Also OP doesnt say whether he has a Z170/270 mobo, which can be a BIG difference.

Yeah 6700K has held their value well.  Sold mine recently for almost $300 which is weird since I took that money and bought a new 8700K for $320

[Emberstone]

8 hours ago, JoostinOnline said:

 

 

Am I the only one who realizes that he'll need to upgrade his motherboard for those, when he can keep the same one with a 6700k?

Didn’t even realize. I was half asleep when I typed that.

 

Yeah, a 6700K would do him just fine. Probably what I’d do.

[JoostinOnline]

6 minutes ago, Jrasero said:

Yeah 6700K has held their value well.  Sold mine recently for almost $300 which is weird since I took that money and bought a new 8700K for $320

Damn, you got a hell of a deal.  Whoever bought it didn't look on eBay.

[stealth80]

Need more info here, monitor resolution, games you play, other uses for the PC, BUDGET, current motherboard/ram etc

[Jrasero]

1 minute ago, JoostinOnline said:

Damn, you got a hell of a deal.  Whoever bought it didn't look on eBay.

It was on craigslist but the cheapest "buy it now" on Ebay is $250, but yeah it was kind of a no brainer to sell and upgrade to an 8700K even when I had to buy a Z370 board.  Honestly gaming wise very little difference in performance going to 8700K, but nice to have those extra cores for others tasks 

[CrippledROBOT]

10 hours ago, AngelRafa1 said:

Im looking for a better cpu i got right now a gtx 1070 / i3 7100 which cpu does not bottleneck the gtx 1070 

Want the short answer? Here it is:

 

GAMING?

 

If you want long-term support and a sense of "future-proof", then going with the AMD AM4 platform is your best bet. Their upcoming Ryzen+ chips (which are promising strong performance gains) WILL be compatible with current AM4 boards. Furthermore, it is said that the platform will be supported well into 2019. HOWEVER, the current Ryzen chips are not able to push games are extremely high refresh rates like an Intel i5 8600k or i7 8700k. This platform will see new chips in the coming months, BUT, the 9th series of Intel chips will almost definitely NOT be supported on the current Z370 boards.

 

Therefore, if you are shooting for fps PAST 60+ on a monitor that supports such a frame rate, then go Intel. I have an i5 8600k and I really could NOT be any happier. 

 

 

 

[JoostinOnline]

4 minutes ago, Jrasero said:

It was on craigslist but the cheapest "buy it now" on Ebay is $250, but yeah it was kind of a no brainer to sell and upgrade to an 8700K even when I had to buy a Z370 board.  Honestly gaming wise very little difference in performance going to 8700K, but nice to have those extra cores for others tasks 

Well as I said, you have to watch it closely.  $220-230 ones pop up every day or so, but are quickly purchased.  I recently helped a friend buy a 6700k.  It was annoying because I'd text him, and by the time he read my text and checked, it was always sold.  It took weeks before he reacted fast enough.

[AngelRafa1]

Motherboard / asrock z270 pro4