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Nvidia Optimus in Laptops

Kenotbi
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I'd go with any laptop that has a discrete desktop graphics card and yes... G-Sync would be nice. Also, I'd opt for Thunderbolt 3. 

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screen tearing and input lag doesnt have much to do with Optimus, it's the bad screen on the laptops. Optimus just swaps the work between the dedicated graphics and integrated graphics.

 

In fact, even if you get a 1080 SLI laptop, it will still have Optimus since it's used by all mobile platforms (for battery life sake, at idle dedicated graphics still use a LOT of power compared to the integrated chip)

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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4 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

screen tearing and input lag doesnt have much to do with Optimus, it's the bad screen on the laptops. Optimus just swaps the work between the dedicated graphics and integrated graphics.

 

In fact, even if you get a 1080 SLI laptop, it will still have Optimus since it's used by all mobile platforms (for battery life sake, at idle dedicated graphics still use a LOT of power compared to the integrated chip)

How does one know it's a bad screen and what are bad screens?

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3 minutes ago, Kenotbi said:

How does one know it's a bad screen and what are bad screens?

look for reviews that arent from whoever selling them. There are good and bad ones within different panel types so that's not a reliable way to tell its quality.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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7 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

look for reviews that arent from whoever selling them. There are good and bad ones within different panel types so that's not a reliable way to tell its quality.

What about 4k panels? I would decrease the resolution and play in 1080p but, I'm not sure if it will tear.

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2 minutes ago, Kenotbi said:

What about 4k panels? I would decrease the resolution and play in 1080p but, I'm not sure if it will tear.

Probably no tearing since 4K models are usually a higher range product, you are kind of wasting it. They could also feel cheap when it comes to color accuracy and brightness.

 

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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6 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

screen tearing and input lag doesnt have much to do with Optimus, it's the bad screen on the laptops. Optimus just swaps the work between the dedicated graphics and integrated graphics.

 

In fact, even if you get a 1080 SLI laptop, it will still have Optimus since it's used by all mobile platforms (for battery life sake, at idle dedicated graphics still use a LOT of power compared to the integrated chip)

That's not true in the slightest. It's the display drivers. I've personally changed from the stock panel to a faaar superior one on my laptop and the screen-tearing persists. It's a known issue on all displays that aren't G-sync. :P Optimus makes no difference and no, not all laptops have Optimus. For machines using above a 1070 or any sort of SLI setup of any kind you lose Optimus and battery life suffers.

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17 hours ago, Imglidinhere said:

That's not true in the slightest. It's the display drivers. I've personally changed from the stock panel to a faaar superior one on my laptop and the screen-tearing persists. It's a known issue on all displays that aren't G-sync. :P Optimus makes no difference and no, not all laptops have Optimus. For machines using above a 1070 or any sort of SLI setup of any kind you lose Optimus and battery life suffers.

Sooo don't get anything that doesn't have G-SYNC?

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2 hours ago, Kenotbi said:

Sooo don't get anything that doesn't have G-SYNC?

If your only purpose is to game, and you don't care about battery life, then yes go for a G-sync screen. Just be aware that G-sync machines don't get optimus for some reason, so your battery life is literally trash garbage.

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