Opinion on This PC?

[kentonwill]

First off, if I could ask everyone to save your predisposed opinions about prebuilt systems away for a quick minute here and I just want a critical opinion about the system itself. I know a bit about computers but not enough to know much about like the actual value of it, how well it'll run and it's expandability. I'll mostly be playing CSGO and other lower-demanding games.

 

https://m.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/cyberpowerpc-cyberpowerpc-gamer-ultra-gua520-pc-amd-fx-4300-1tb-hdd-8gb-ram-windows-10-english-gua520/10386116

 

Keep in mind the price on here is CAD, so for my American friends out there it's roughly $570 USD.

[RicY]

Ihmo any FX series cpu should be killed with fire. Better search for an 4th generation Intel cpu deal. And GT730 isn't oriented for gaming too. Maybe go scrapyard style and shoot for used, but more gaming worthy hardware? 

 

Even for csgo you should aim for single core performance. FX series suck bad at it. Go Intel. 

[dizmo]

Absolute trash.

[Eduard the weeb]

that would be a waste of your money, so NO

[Ansger]

It looks like a really bad value for anny computer, prebuilt or not. 

No upgrade path, slow RAM, no SSD, and a trash video card. There are better prebuilts for less money.

Also it is very ugly IMO. 

 

It will run CSGO I think but it won't be a good experience I think. 

[Eduard the weeb]

I sorry but the prebuild market looks like trash rn I would buy the components and then get someone else to build it

[kentonwill]

Thanks for your opinions guys. I'd be highly grateful if someone could link me to a good value prebuilt for like $700-900 CAD. Or even to a list of parts for something around the same price. Canadian websites would be preferred. Love you all <3

[Eduard the weeb]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/6k2zm8

but for the gpu I would also look used market.

[Ansger]

This should set you up rather good for the price. Windows 10 is not included in the price. You can get a key via Kinguin if you're into that, or just add 80-ish bucks to the price for the OS.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Jj6KFd

The parts listd in the list will be available trough Newegg and amazon, maybe trough other sites. It won't be hard to find the components as they are rather common. 

[kentonwill]

@Eduard the weeb I took your list and edited it a little bit to try to reduce the price a bit. Feedback pls: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/HXN2qk

[dizmo]

This is a much better build. You can shave $50 off if you want to go with a 1050Ti.

Another $50 if you forgo the cooler.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($129.99 @ Newegg Canada)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($46.75 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350M-E Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($98.99 @ PC Canada)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($87.74 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: ADATA - XPG SX6000 128GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($69.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.95 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB Dual Video Card  ($249.99 @ Memory Express)
Case: Fractal Design - Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($34.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($57.99 @ PC Canada)
Total: $826.38

[danejesse1]

1 minute ago, dizmo said:

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+1 for going with a R3 1200 and a better GPU. A GT 1030 isn't a very good card.

[dizmo]

Just now, danejesse1 said:

+1 for going with a R3 1200 and a better GPU. A GT 1030 isn't a very good card.

Haha, I know when I saw that I cringed. Also, paying an extra $8 for an extra 8GB of storage, plus NVME speed seems like a no brainer.

[Herman Mcpootis]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($129.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($84.50 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($112.31 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Crucial - BX300 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($61.49 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.95 @ Vuugo) 
Video Card: PNY - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB XLR8 Gaming OC Video Card  ($373.99 @ PC Canada) 
Case: Rosewill - FBM-05 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($19.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($57.99 @ PC Canada) 
Total: $890.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-30 21:35 EST-0500

[Eduard the weeb]

26 minutes ago, kentonwill said:

@Eduard the weeb I took your list and edited it a little bit to try to reduce the price a bit. Feedback pls: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/HXN2qk

it seems fine, you have pretty much everything you need, if thats what you want I would go with it 

[dizmo]

12 minutes ago, Eduard the weeb said:

it seems fine, you have pretty much everything you need, if thats what you want I would go with it 

Except for $60 more this is many times better.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($129.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350M-E Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($98.99 @ PC Canada)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($87.74 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: ADATA - XPG SX6000 128GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($69.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.95 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Phoenix Video Card  ($199.99 @ Memory Express)
Case: Fractal Design - Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($34.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($57.99 @ PC Canada)
Total: $729.63

 

[kentonwill]

52 minutes ago, dizmo said:

This is a much better build. You can shave $50 off if you want to go with a 1050Ti.

Another $50 if you forgo the cooler.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($129.99 @ Newegg Canada)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($46.75 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350M-E Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($98.99 @ PC Canada)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($87.74 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: ADATA - XPG SX6000 128GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($69.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.95 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB Dual Video Card  ($249.99 @ Memory Express)
Case: Fractal Design - Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($34.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($57.99 @ PC Canada)
Total: $826.38

How much of a performance difference would downgrading to the 1050Ti make? Like I said in the original post, I'm mostly going to be playing low-demand games like CS:GO. I would start playing PUBG if I can run it well

[Watashi]

That is not a very good system at all. If it even ran the games you wanted too, at the performance you wanted them at, you would (almost)surely be unable to play next-gen games even if they are ones that are typically considered not demanding.

It just isn't a good system, or a good value. 

[kentonwill]

15 hours ago, dizmo said:

Except for $60 more this is many times better.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($129.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350M-E Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($98.99 @ PC Canada)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($87.74 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: ADATA - XPG SX6000 128GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($69.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.95 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Phoenix Video Card  ($199.99 @ Memory Express)
Case: Fractal Design - Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($34.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($57.99 @ PC Canada)
Total: $729.63

 

If I'm not planning to overclock, is the stock CPU cooler enough?

[dizmo]

19 minutes ago, kentonwill said:

If I'm not planning to overclock, is the stock CPU cooler enough?

Honstly, if you're not overclocking, I'd go Intel. Ryzen only performs well when overclocked.

[kentonwill]

2 hours ago, dizmo said:

Honstly, if you're not overclocking, I'd go Intel. Ryzen only performs well when overclocked.

If I were to switch to Intel, what chip would you recommend and I assume I'd need a new motherboard too? (Thank's for all the help you're providing btw, I really appreciate it)

[dizmo]

3 minutes ago, kentonwill said:

If I were to switch to Intel, what chip would you recommend and I assume I'd need a new motherboard too? (Thank's for all the help you're providing btw, I really appreciate it)

Intel raises the price by almost $100, which is a bit much.

I'd do this:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1300X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($160.94 @ shopRBC)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350M-E Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($98.99 @ PC Canada)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($87.74 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: ADATA - XPG SX6000 128GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($69.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.95 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Phoenix Video Card  ($199.99 @ Memory Express)
Case: Fractal Design - Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($34.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($57.99 @ PC Canada)
Total: $760.58

 

The chip should OC itself (iirc that's what the x chips do, someone can correct me if I'm wrong), so you'll still see a nice performance boost. If your budget allows, a better cooler could help. CryOrig H7 is what I'd suggest.

[kentonwill]

3 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Intel raises the price by almost $100, which is a bit much.

I'd do this:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1300X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($160.94 @ shopRBC)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350M-E Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($98.99 @ PC Canada)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($87.74 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: ADATA - XPG SX6000 128GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($69.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.95 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Phoenix Video Card  ($199.99 @ Memory Express)
Case: Fractal Design - Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($34.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($57.99 @ PC Canada)
Total: $760.58

 

The chip should OC itself (iirc that's what the x chips do, someone can correct me if I'm wrong), so you'll still see a nice performance boost. If your budget allows, a better cooler could help. CryOrig H7 is what I'd suggest.

Thanks man. Would purchasing the Crucial - 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory instead of the Ballistix Sport (1 x 8GB) make any difference performance-wise. From what I can tell every website that has the Ballistix at a reasonable price is sold out

[dizmo]

14 minutes ago, kentonwill said:

Thanks man. Would purchasing the Crucial - 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory instead of the Ballistix Sport (1 x 8GB) make any difference performance-wise. From what I can tell every website that has the Ballistix at a reasonable price is sold out

Hmmm. Yeah, so I see.

The Crucial stuff isn't bad but Ryzen likes fast RAM. I'd try and get at least 2666mhz.

[dizmo]

Oh, and the 1060 is a lot better than the 1050Ti. If you can afford it I'd definitely get it.