ryzen 5 Ryzen battle

[dronjo12]

Hello fellow geeks,

 

I'm getting my self a Ryzen 5 CPU (to give some support to team red) and i just cant decide between Ryzen 1600 and 1600x.

The 1600 comes with the AMD wraith cooler (which a lot of peeps say is really good) but the 1600x has a higher clock speed but doesn't come with the cooler.

I'm getting a new mo-bo and RAM so its gonna cost me some money. I guess my question is, is the 1600x worth the higher price if im not gonna overclock? 

(I'm sorry of this questions is frequently asked but i couldn't find it here) 

 

Thanks

[Mira Yurizaki]

It's about a 10% difference in performance based on the clock speed alone. So you tell me if 10% is worth while.

 

Also it applies to CPU bound scenarios.

[johndms]

1 hour ago, dronjo12 said:

Hello fellow geeks,

 

I'm getting my self a Ryzen 5 CPU (to give some support to team red) and i just cant decide between Ryzen 1600 and 1600x.

The 1600 comes with the AMD wraith cooler (which a lot of peeps say is really good) but the 1600x has a higher clock speed but doesn't come with the cooler.

I'm getting a new mo-bo and RAM so its gonna cost me some money. I guess my question is, is the 1600x worth the higher price if im not gonna overclock? 

(I'm sorry of this questions is frequently asked but i couldn't find it here) 

 

Thanks

The question to ask yourself is how much value do you place on 300-400MHz? With a MSRP difference of $30USD plus the cost of a decent cooler, another $30USD or more. Many people choose the Non-X and put that saved money towards better ram or gpu. Ram is so expensive right now anyways and Ryzen is picky as hell when it comes to ram. "Samsung B-Die" is something you'll want to research when choosing ram.

 

Ryzen 5 1600X has a base clock of 3.2/3.6GHz, all cores automatically overclock to 3.4/3.7GHz. Precision Boost will then increase one or two of the coolest cores to 3.6/4.0GHz with XFR taking those same two cores to 3.7/4.1GHz.

 

FYI - Even though you're not overclocking, it's easy to do 3.7 or 3.8GHz on the 1600's stock cooler. Will often require just a bit more voltage (around 1.30v).

 

[Princess Luna]

Yeah the X is for those scared of taking a minute overclocking it

 

If you overclock the 1600 it will be a 1600x, it is easy to do so it is worth it but if you're absolutely sure you won't then go with the X ones... then again be warned that to enjoy Ryzen to the most you do NEED to overclock both the memory and CPU.

[Salacious B Crum]

yep save some money and put it towards your gpu your not going to see appreciable gains from the 1600x in your game play

[dronjo12]

5 minutes ago, johndms said:

The question to ask yourself is how much value do you place on 300-400MHz? With a MSRP difference of $30USD plus the cost of a decent cooler, another $30USD or more. Many people choose the Non-X and put that saved money towards better ram or gpu. Ram is so expensive right now anyways and Ryzen is picky as hell when it comes to ram. "Samsung B-Die" is something you'll want to research when choosing ram.

 

Ryzen 5 1600X has a base clock of 3.2/3.6GHz, all cores automatically overclock to 3.4/3.7GHz. Precision Boost will then increase one or two of the coolest cores to 3.6/4.0GHz with XFR taking those same two cores to 3.7/4.1GHz.

 

FYI - Even though you're not overclocking, it's easy to do 3.7 or 3.8GHz on the 1600's stock cooler. Will often require just a bit more voltage (around 1.30v).

 

I was actually thinking of getting a HyperX 2400Mhz 2x8gig. Is thats something i should change then since you said Ryzen is picky? 

[Tytan64]

The 1600 and the 1600X can be overclocked the same way, depentinding on your luck in the silicon lottery ofcourse. BUT the 1600 comes with a decent cooler which is also enough to overclock it to 3.6 to 3.8 GHz. So to me the 1600 is way better than the 1600X.

[Salacious B Crum]

I would get the highest possible kit you can afford I can assure you that ram speed is Ryzens best friend just make sure they are on your boards QVL

[johndms]

1 minute ago, dronjo12 said:

I was actually thinking of getting a HyperX 2400Mhz 2x8gig. Is thats something i should change then since you said Ryzen is picky? 

These forums are full of people with memory issues with Ryzen. Even with bios updates offering improved memory compatibility, it's still a nightmare for some. My advice would be to research Samsung B-Die and look at what others are using. What ram are people using with your board? Compare model numbers because even one number off makes a difference.

 

http://www.overclock.net/t/1627555/ryzen-memory-ic-collection-thread - Handy link to compare model numbers. Not complete, but still useful

http://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4963&title=ryzen-ram-frequency-and-gaming - Why people say faster ram is better. Or is it?

[epsilon84]

DDR4-2400 type memory *is* a bottleneck to Ryzen gaming performance if your GPU is also quite fast - so anything from a GTX 1070 and up I would say.

 

If you use a GTX 1060 or below it won't make much difference as you will hit the GPU bottleneck before hitting the RAM bottleneck in most games.

[dronjo12]

11 hours ago, epsilon84 said:

DDR4-2400 type memory *is* a bottleneck to Ryzen gaming performance if your GPU is also quite fast - so anything from a GTX 1070 and up I would say.

 

If you use a GTX 1060 or below it won't make much difference as you will hit the GPU bottleneck before hitting the RAM bottleneck in most games.

Yeah, I'm on a RX480 and its the same as the 1060 just for the red team ^-^