aes/ebu interface

[krass76]

hy guys,

 

do you know some good interfaces (USB/Firewire/PCIe) to support two channels of aes/ebu 192kHz 24bit Sound output so I can drive data to two active speakers (each of them has dac, preamp and amp built in)?

don't really need other channels, input yadda yadda. just two high quality digital aes/ebu outputs for two speakers.

 

any ideas?

[needmorewood]

rofl firewire. isnt that dead now?

this is way out of my league, i want to help but cant

[EmoRarity]

rofl firewire. isnt that dead now?

this is way out of my league, i want to help but cant

Amusingly enough it isn't, a lot of budgeted producers use it

The Audioengine A2's can be found on Massdrop for $150 right now, and those seem to fill your order. 

[needmorewood]

Amusingly enough it isn't, a lot of budgeted producers use it

The Audioengine A2's can be found on Massdrop for $150 right now, and those seem to fill your order. 

guess u learn something new everyday

[mr moose]

CO3 by M-audio

 

or

 

http://www.berkeleyaudiodesign.com/products4.html

[krass76]

Berkley Audio Desigk alpha or Weiss INT202?

Which do you think is better?

 

But one thing I doubt is that USB-to-AES/EBU converters have the ability to sound differently. I mean we have a digital signal. It can be one or zero. And dat signal is comming right from my computer, maybe being reformated a tiny bit. But values stay the same and the sequence of these values stays the same. But ones stay ones and zeros stay zeros as far as the actual audio signal is concerned. So a digital-USB-to-digital-AES/EBU-converter should affect the sound exactly by 0%. The 1 that gets into the usb cable goes into the converter and comes out as a 1. Same with a 0.

Ok, background noise I understand. But why could a digital-to-digital-converter have an effect on sound quality? If it was a dac, I'd clearly understand that there are differences between them which can actually be heard. But why the hell should something for 2000 bucks which converts a digital signal to a digital signal sound differently than any other interface converting ones to ones and zeros to zeros? There isn't even a real conversion going on there...

By that logic we should probably start using hand-crafted usb ports and cables and carefully hand soldered usb-chips on our motherboards to connect to the so-called "converter". Because that's the whole point of all-digital audio transmission directly into an active speaker's dac. That there can be no loss on the way. Because with an analog signal, there can be.

 

But anyways, thank you for your input!

[mr moose]

Berkley Audio Desigk alpha or Weiss INT202?

Which do you think is better?

 

But one thing I doubt is that USB-to-AES/EBU converters have the ability to sound differently. I mean we have a digital signal. It can be one or zero. And dat signal is comming right from my computer, maybe being reformated a tiny bit. But values stay the same and the sequence of these values stays the same. But ones stay ones and zeros stay zeros as far as the actual audio signal is concerned. So a digital-USB-to-digital-AES/EBU-converter should affect the sound exactly by 0%. The 1 that gets into the usb cable goes into the converter and comes out as a 1. Same with a 0.

Ok, background noise I understand. But why could a digital-to-digital-converter have an effect on sound quality? If it was a dac, I'd clearly understand that there are differences between them which can actually be heard. But why the hell should something for 2000 bucks which converts a digital signal to a digital signal sound differently than any other interface converting ones to ones and zeros to zeros? There isn't even a real conversion going on there...

By that logic we should probably start using hand-crafted usb ports and cables and carefully hand soldered usb-chips on our motherboards to connect to the so-called "converter". Because that's the whole point of all-digital audio transmission directly into an active speaker's dac. That there can be no loss on the way. Because with an analog signal, there can be.

 

But anyways, thank you for your input!

 

I wouldn't stress about getting bit perfect data transmission, even the cheapest of usb cables have proven to transfer data far batter than we give them credit for.  There is a lot of snake oil out there about this. The whole digital signal transfer has been engineered and analyzed over and over by highly skilled professions in the Audio industry, the protocols and processors are close to the best they can be with our current technology, we don't need to second guess it, we will unlikely improve upon it.