Posted December 9, 2017 Hi, I'm working on a budget pc build around the Ryzen 3 1300x. I need a reliable AM4 B350 atx motherboard that's good quality and ideally under $100 that'll work well for casual gaming and general purpose computing. A big must is a white/black board to fit the color scheme I want. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 9, 2017 Get a 1200 and OC it to 1300x levels https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yBtWGX/asrock-ab350-pro4-atx-am4-motherboard-ab350-pro4 Ion (Main Build) Overall Setup i5 6500 3.2 GHz -Blue snowball (White) thanks goodwill MSI Mortar Arctic -Logitech K120 Asus 1060 6GB Dual -Logitech Daedalus Prime G302 PNY CS1311 120 GB -Mousepad I made in 1st grade with my name on it WD Caviar Blue 1 TB Crucial Ballistix Sport LT White 16GB (8x2GB) 2400 NZXT S340 White Corsair CXM 450W Lenovo H320 (Old Pre-built PC) Possible upgrade for H320 i5 650 3.2 GHz (heh) Xeon X3470 Motherboard unknown Same Motherboard iGPU GT 1030 (MSI Low Profile Half Height) Crucial 240GB SSD Crucial 240GB SSD 6GB DDR3 (4+2GB) 8-10GB DDR3 (4+2+2GB/4+4+2GB) Lenovo H320 case Lenovo H320 case Unknown PSU (210W?) Same PSU (210W?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 9, 2017 Author 2 minutes ago, QuantumBit said: Get a 1200 and OC it to 1300x levels https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yBtWGX/asrock-ab350-pro4-atx-am4-motherboard-ab350-pro4 Says AB350, does it differ at all from a B350 chipset or is it the same thing? I'm a noob. First time build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 9, 2017 Just now, Defame said: Says AB350, does it differ at all from a B350 chipset or is it the same thing? I'm a noob. First time build. Probably a marketing thing, most likely the same. Ion (Main Build) Overall Setup i5 6500 3.2 GHz -Blue snowball (White) thanks goodwill MSI Mortar Arctic -Logitech K120 Asus 1060 6GB Dual -Logitech Daedalus Prime G302 PNY CS1311 120 GB -Mousepad I made in 1st grade with my name on it WD Caviar Blue 1 TB Crucial Ballistix Sport LT White 16GB (8x2GB) 2400 NZXT S340 White Corsair CXM 450W Lenovo H320 (Old Pre-built PC) Possible upgrade for H320 i5 650 3.2 GHz (heh) Xeon X3470 Motherboard unknown Same Motherboard iGPU GT 1030 (MSI Low Profile Half Height) Crucial 240GB SSD Crucial 240GB SSD 6GB DDR3 (4+2GB) 8-10GB DDR3 (4+2+2GB/4+4+2GB) Lenovo H320 case Lenovo H320 case Unknown PSU (210W?) Same PSU (210W?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 9, 2017 Author 1 minute ago, QuantumBit said: Probably a marketing thing, most likely the same. Do you have any personal experience with this mobo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 9, 2017 Just now, Defame said: Do you have any personal experience with this mobo? No Ion (Main Build) Overall Setup i5 6500 3.2 GHz -Blue snowball (White) thanks goodwill MSI Mortar Arctic -Logitech K120 Asus 1060 6GB Dual -Logitech Daedalus Prime G302 PNY CS1311 120 GB -Mousepad I made in 1st grade with my name on it WD Caviar Blue 1 TB Crucial Ballistix Sport LT White 16GB (8x2GB) 2400 NZXT S340 White Corsair CXM 450W Lenovo H320 (Old Pre-built PC) Possible upgrade for H320 i5 650 3.2 GHz (heh) Xeon X3470 Motherboard unknown Same Motherboard iGPU GT 1030 (MSI Low Profile Half Height) Crucial 240GB SSD Crucial 240GB SSD 6GB DDR3 (4+2GB) 8-10GB DDR3 (4+2+2GB/4+4+2GB) Lenovo H320 case Lenovo H320 case Unknown PSU (210W?) Same PSU (210W?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 9, 2017 Author Just now, QuantumBit said: No What made you recommend it then? Sorry, I want to make sure I'm thorough in making the right decision lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 9, 2017 Just now, Defame said: What made you recommend it then? Sorry, I want to make sure I'm thorough in making the right decision lol It has everything you need and usually variance between motherboards aren't very noticeable. Ion (Main Build) Overall Setup i5 6500 3.2 GHz -Blue snowball (White) thanks goodwill MSI Mortar Arctic -Logitech K120 Asus 1060 6GB Dual -Logitech Daedalus Prime G302 PNY CS1311 120 GB -Mousepad I made in 1st grade with my name on it WD Caviar Blue 1 TB Crucial Ballistix Sport LT White 16GB (8x2GB) 2400 NZXT S340 White Corsair CXM 450W Lenovo H320 (Old Pre-built PC) Possible upgrade for H320 i5 650 3.2 GHz (heh) Xeon X3470 Motherboard unknown Same Motherboard iGPU GT 1030 (MSI Low Profile Half Height) Crucial 240GB SSD Crucial 240GB SSD 6GB DDR3 (4+2GB) 8-10GB DDR3 (4+2+2GB/4+4+2GB) Lenovo H320 case Lenovo H320 case Unknown PSU (210W?) Same PSU (210W?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 9, 2017 for mobo (assuming that you decided the form factor already), then there are only two rules: 1. If you want a Ryzen 7 (not recommended for gaming) in the future, get X370 2. MSI should take a lower priority because of their worse memory support (still preferred if it's a higher end board than the other comparison). 3. RGB? CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1 Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync Desktop benching: Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 10, 2017 Author On 12/8/2017 at 4:52 PM, Jurrunio said: for mobo (assuming that you decided the form factor already), then there are only two rules: 1. If you want a Ryzen 7 (not recommended for gaming) in the future, get X370 2. MSI should take a lower priority because of their worse memory support (still preferred if it's a higher end board than the other comparison). 3. RGB? I don't plan on upgrading to a Ryzen 7 in the future. I looked at one MSI board that got my attention and seemed good. Unlike the ASRock pro4 this one supports 3200Mhz memory. I've heard you want to go with faster ram if you've got a Ryzen CPU since they do much better with faster ram apparently? The $20 difference isn't bad... but on a budget would you say it'd be better to just go with the ASRock one suggested by the other dude? RGB isn't a big selling point for me so I don't care. Here's the MSI board I looked at: https://www.amazon.com/MSI-B350-Motherboard-PC-MATE/dp/B06XPM7FSR?th=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Defame said: I don't plan on upgrading to a Ryzen 7 in the future. I looked at one MSI board that got my attention and seemed good. Unlike the ASRock pro4 this one supports 3200Mhz memory. I've heard you want to go with faster ram if you've got a Ryzen CPU since they do much better with faster ram apparently? The $20 difference isn't bad... but on a budget would you say it'd be better to just go with the ASRock one suggested by the other dude? RGB isn't a big selling point for me so I don't care. Here's the MSI board I looked at: https://www.amazon.com/MSI-B350-Motherboard-PC-MATE/dp/B06XPM7FSR?th=1 For a Ryzen 3, anything is good enough. However, I can personally recommend the ASRock AB350 Pro4 for casual gaming and general purpose needs. As long as you have no intention of pushing extreme CPU overclocks (4GHz or higher), it'll suit you well. It's also fully capable of 3200MHz memory and higher. Any ambiguity you may find regarding supported memory frequency comes down to the processor being used and silicon lottery. Ryzen officially only supports up to 2666MHz. Anything higher is considered an overclock, and not technically supported. But we all know that's just AMDs way of covering their own asses in the event things don't work. "Oh, your 3200MHz memory doesn't work? Sorry, we only support up to 2666." I own this board and have it paired with a Ryzen 5 1600 with 3000MHz rated ram. I've overclocked the memory to 3200 with only minor issues. With a bios update to AGESA 1.0.0.6b (version 3.2 or 3.3), you'll be fine with memory support in most cases. As long as you don't cheap out and get some 2x4GB Dual Rank offbrand nonsense. Just do your homework on what other people are using and are having success with, and you should be fine. Research "Samsung B-Die" in your spare time. Expect to spend at least $200USD, though for something nearly guaranteed to work. CPU: Ryzen 5 5600x Board: Asus PRIME X570-P Ram: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2x8) DDR4-3000 Case: Fractal Design Define S GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 SSD: HP EX950 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME HDD: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM PSU: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Platinum 750W Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S SE-AM4 Monitor: Viotek GFT27DB 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Defame said: Unlike the ASRock pro4 this one supports 3200Mhz memory. Not a promise. Besides, gains from increased memory frequency drops significantly after 2800MHz so no need for faster ones unless the price difference is small As for the mobo itself, they are similar in performance but one thing, MSI have bad track record on memory support. CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1 Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync Desktop benching: Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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