Coffee Lake i5 or Ryzen 5 1600

[UltimaHeart]

I will be playing games & also playing on emulators as well. I dont do video editing or any of those sorts. Which will suit me more? 
I plan to play on 1080p 60hz for now but will upgrade to maybe 144hz or even 4k in a few years

[ARikozuM]

Intel for emulation and gaming. You should go for 2560x1080@100Hz.

[J400]

If you invest in a ryzen system, you will most likely be stuck below 100hz when veiwing you monitor options. criteria for buying intel would be "lots of money, 144hz monitor, gtx 1080 or higher" ect. but if you want a decent budget build that will last you just as long (and you can overclock) go with the 1600. if you plan on gaming at 4k, a 1080/ti is justifiable. the 1600 will do better at streaming and other such things, but 5 years in the future when every gpu you buy will be dependent on cpu clock speed for maximum performance, you will want to upgrade. amd for budget/ 4k, intel for high refresh rate and high budget

[Misanthrope]

Short answer is the i5 8400.

 

Both will easily do 1080p 60 FPS (Given an adequate GPU and/or game settings) but since you won't be using more productivity apps (this is where Ryzen wins at times) and as an active gamer you might want higher refresh rate at one point, it's nicer to have that option open with the 8400.

 

[UltimaHeart]

6 minutes ago, Misanthrope said:

Short answer is the i5 8400.

 

Both will easily do 1080p 60 FPS (Given an adequate GPU and/or game settings) but since you won't be using more productivity apps (this is where Ryzen wins at times) and as an active gamer you might want higher refresh rate at one point, it's nicer to have that option open with the 8400.

 

im getting the i5 8600k would that be an even better option since i can overclock

[Bajantechnician]

Just now, UltimaHeart said:

im getting the i5 8600k would that be an even better option since i can overclock

at that price you might as well pick up an i7 7700k or 6700k (depending on where you buy it)

[UltimaHeart]

Just now, Bajantechnician said:

at that price you might as well pick up an i7 7700k or 6700k (depending on where you buy it)

If i could SQUEEZE an extra 100 for an 8700k, would it be worth it

[Bajantechnician]

Just now, UltimaHeart said:

If i could SQUEEZE an extra 100 for an 8700k, would it be worth it

not over an 7700k

[UltimaHeart]

Just now, Bajantechnician said:

not over an 7700k

why so in your opinion should i go kaby lake over coffee lake

[ARikozuM]

1 minute ago, UltimaHeart said:

If i could SQUEEZE an extra 100 for an 8700k, would it be worth it

I would stick with the 8600K for now as Intel has a precedence for two revisions per socket on the consumer line. 

[Bajantechnician]

Just now, UltimaHeart said:

If i could SQUEEZE an extra 100 for an 8700k, would it be worth it

unless you find the literal 5 fps gain to be worth $100

[Bajantechnician]

Just now, UltimaHeart said:

why so in your opinion should i go kaby lake over coffee lake

because imo a 10% overall gain is not $100 in my eyes. To others that actually do require that extra horsepower, by all means. However, as you stated you wont be doing anything cpu intensive, which doesnt require top of the line hardware

 

edit:/ soz about the double post lol

[UltimaHeart]

2 minutes ago, Bajantechnician said:

because imo a 10% overall gain is not $100 in my eyes. To others that actually do require that extra horsepower, by all means. However, as you stated you wont be doing anything cpu intensive, which doesnt require top of the line hardware

So i7 7700k would be a better price? cuz i heard many say the i5 8600k is way better

[Misanthrope]

9 minutes ago, Bajantechnician said:

at that price you might as well pick up an i7 7700k or 6700k (depending on where you buy it)

Woah woah hold on: an 8600k is far better than a 7700k I don't know where that is coming from: 6 actual cores > 4 cores/8 threads.

[ARikozuM]

2 minutes ago, UltimaHeart said:

So i7 7700k would be a better price? cuz i heard many say the i5 8600k is way better

8600K is better as it offers an upgrade in the future.

[Bajantechnician]

Just now, Misanthrope said:

Woah woah hold on: an 8600k is far better than a 7700k I don't know where that is coming from: 6 actual cores > 4 cores/8 threads.

 

Just now, UltimaHeart said:

So i7 7700k would be a better price? cuz i heard many say the i5 8600k is way better

 

Just now, ARikozuM said:

8600K is better as it offers an upgrade in the future.

Yes, I know that the 8600K is much MUCH better. However, Im speaking from a strictly price to performace standpoint. As he said, He does not video edit. This means that there is no reason to get a 8700K if he isnt going to use it to its full extent, ie vdeo editing/blender

[UltimaHeart]

4 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

8600K is better as it offers an upgrade in the future.

would i be better off saving a hundred bucks by going for the i5 8600k over the i7 8700k? (I will pair it with a GTX 1080)

[dizmo]

8600k

3 minutes ago, UltimaHeart said:

would i be better off saving a hundred bucks by going for the i5 8600k over the i7 8700k? (I will pair it with a GTX 1080)

Yes

[ARikozuM]

2 minutes ago, UltimaHeart said:

would i be better off saving a hundred bucks by going for the i5 8600k over the i7 8700k? (I will pair it with a GTX 1080)

Save the hundred and get your some faster RAM and a larger SSD. There's no proof yet, but Ice Lake should be octa-cores on the same V2 socket as CFL.

[Bajantechnician]

Just now, UltimaHeart said:

would i be better off saving a hundred bucks by going for the i5 8600k over the i7 8700k? (I will pair it with a GTX 1080)

A 8600k Is more than enough for gaming. And yes

[UltimaHeart]

Just now, ARikozuM said:

Save the hundred and get your some faster RAM and a larger SSD. There's no proof yet, but Ice Lake should be octa-cores on the same V2 socket as CFL.

So when intel launches their next CPU, its gonna be like the same with AMD where it will be on the same socket?

[ARikozuM]

4 minutes ago, UltimaHeart said:

So when intel launches their next CPU, its gonna be like the same with AMD where it will be on the same socket?

We don't have much reason to believe otherwise. And if Intel doesn't keep the same socket 1151v2, there'll be hell to pay from a large portion of their market.

[Misanthrope]

40 minutes ago, Bajantechnician said:

 

 

Yes, I know that the 8600K is much MUCH better. However, Im speaking from a strictly price to performace standpoint. As he said, He does not video edit. This means that there is no reason to get a 8700K if he isnt going to use it to its full extent, ie vdeo editing/blender

....Right, the 8600k fits far better then, it's not on a dead platform, it has 2 more physical cores (far more useful than HT), etc.

[Tom Cat]

The i5