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Just now, Dreaper said:

He doesnt know how and doesnt want to decrease the life span

Overclocking within reasonable voltages and temperatures doesn't really harm the life span. For Ryzen, under 1,4 V is absolutely fine on a decent motherboard for daily usage. For Intel, it's a bit lower. Overclocking is fairly easy, just change the Vcore and multiplier. You'll technically have to overclock RAM, as that is what the XMP profiles do. 

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Just now, seon123 said:

Overclocking within reasonable voltages and temperatures doesn't really harm the life span. For Ryzen, under 1,4 V is absolutely fine on a decent motherboard for daily usage. For Intel, it's a bit lower. Overclocking is fairly easy, just change the Vcore and multiplier. You'll technically have to overclock RAM, as that is what the XMP profiles do. 

Does not change the fact he doesnt know how to

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Intel Build:

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CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($199.89 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($121.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($146.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($74.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($69.09 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card  ($259.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox 5 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($39.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $942.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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AMD Build:

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CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($193.44 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($73.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($159.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($74.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($69.09 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card  ($259.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox 5 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($39.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $901.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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As I said, overclocking is just changing 2 settings, and running a program to check for stability. Not hard. 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($193.44 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($73.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($159.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($78.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: *Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.78 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Mini Video Card  ($389.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass ATX Mid Tower Case  ($63.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($21.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1026.03
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
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Just now, Dreaper said:

Which would you go with?

Depending on the desired detail levels, you could go with either. The Intel might give slightly higher framerates but the Ryzen allows for overclocking in the future. They both have a solid upgrade path as well.

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1 minute ago, Dreaper said:

what do you think of seon's build?

For 1080p 60, very overkill.

Even a 1060 6GB could be considered overkill, depending on the desired detail level.

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Just now, Lurick said:

For 1080p 60, very overkill.

Even a 1060 6GB could be considered overkill, depending on the desired detail level.

I agree with that. A 1060 6GB or RX 580 would be more sensible. But a 1070 sort of fits in the budget. 

Also prioritised slightly differently on the case, PSU and storage

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6 minutes ago, Dreaper said:

Does not change the fact he doesnt know how to

It's really not that difficult.

 

1. Start with a reasonable voltage/frequency (on Ryzen for example you could try 3.5 ghz with 1.27v)

2. Run a stress test like Asus realbench for 5 minutes

3. If temps are under 80C, noise levels are fine, stress test passed, and voltage isn't too high (above 1.4v), then raise the frequency by 100 MHz and go back to step 2

4. If the stress test didn't pass, raise voltage by .01v and go back to step 2

5. If it passed, but noise, temps, or voltage was too high then go back to the last setting you thought was fine

6. When you think you've got a stable OC, run a stress test for 1-2 hrs to ensure stability.

 

That really is it. It's that simple. Hell, if your friend doesn't even want to bother that much they could just put in 3.6 ghz and 1.3v and it would probably be fine.

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2 minutes ago, Dreaper said:

is it possible to get a 7700k? or do you think its a waste 

Way too overkill and a waste. An 8400 pretty much performs as well on a newer platform and for cheaper.

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14 minutes ago, Tedny said:

try this

you can add HDD from old system 

 

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Storage: SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($78.89 @ OutletPC) 

 

11 minutes ago, seon123 said:

 

C'mon guys we're almost in 2018 and you're recommending SATA SSDs for new builds. By spending an extra $30-40 on an NVMe SSD like THIS one OP's friend can have around 300-400% speed for a 50% price increase. SATA SSDs offer horrible value vs the more affordable NVMe offerings.

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22 minutes ago, Lurick said:

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This is a great build for the price. Since it sounds like your mainly gaming, you'll get the most FPS out of the intel system as opposed to the ryzen And @Lurick build is pretty solid. 16GB of RAM gives you breathing room for future games requiring more and more (some already need more than 8GB) and the GPU will also ensure to keep your minimum of 60 FPS target intact for the foreseeable future. Having an SSD as your OS drive is great, and for any games you put on it, can speed up loading times by a good margin.

Heres a video of benchmarks showing how each CPU can perform:

Skim through it and take a look at how each performs to get a good example of how far you can push it and what it will produce. Hope this helps a bit ^_^

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Just now, Dreaper said:

 

If no overclocking and looks aren't important, the stock intel cooler is plenty.

If you want to toss something on there though then a beQuiet slim is good :) 

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