ddr4 ryzen issue

[longislandman99]

http://www.corsair.com/en-us/vengeance-led-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-dram-3000mhz-c15-memory-kit-white-led-cmu16gx4m2c3000c15

 

thats the memory i have and it wont work with my asus b350 strix f motherboard i have the latest bios on it but still wont got past 2133mhz but if i use my ballistix elite 8gb kit and it will do 2666mhz no problem i tried manual overclocking and xmp or docc still wont work any thoughts

 

http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/ble2k4g4d26afea that the ballistix memory 

 

 

[paddy-stone]

IIRC it's a pretty well known issue with some of the LED modules, can't remember why exactly right now. If xmp and manual input of timings doesn't help then I can't think of anything left to do... I'm assuming those modules weren't on the QVL?

[longislandman99]

thats the thing it is on the qvl

[johndms]

20 minutes ago, longislandman99 said:

thats the memory i have and it wont work with my asus b350 strix f motherboard i have the latest bios on it but still wont got past 2133mhz

If you've done the usual troubleshooting and still can't get beyond 2133, RMA then do your homework before purchasing again. Ryzen is a pain in the ass with memory compatibility. Look into memory kits containing Samsung B-Die chips. They'll be more expensive, but nearly guaranteed to work.

 

However, if you want to double check.. make sure you're putting the ram into the correct board slots, A2 B2. Try increasing DRAM Votlage to a maximum of 1.40v. Try increasing VDDCR SOC Voltage to 1.1v (no higher than 1.2). Manually change the frequency and timings to 2666 18-18-18-36. Try changing Command Rate from 1T to 2T.

[Coaxialgamer]

Try increasing SOC voltage , and give memory 1.35V

[Binder]

13 hours ago, Coaxialgamer said:

Try increasing SOC voltage , and give memory 1.35V

Yep...this. I would put even 1.4v on the ram voltage (its safe), and soc at 1.15 and try...if it works, you can than either fine tune your soc and ram voltage, or if its working abd stable, just leave it as it is (again its OK).

Just don't mix the voltages of the two, that could cause problems ;).

[Jon Jon]

I always promote people to just buy a Ryzen certified kit.

 

Sure, it costs a little more, but at least you are guaranteed.

That's what I did below in my signature.

 

I know Trident Z can hit 3200mhz, if you are looking for LED RAM.

 

 

[just_dave]

38 minutes ago, Jon Jon said:

I always promote people to just buy a Ryzen certified kit.

 

Sure, it costs a little more, but at least you are guaranteed.

That's what I did below in my signature.

 

I know Trident Z can hit 3200mhz, if you are looking for LED RAM.

 

 

I am an asshole. I love to push things far and get juicy scores, i should've bought Flare X. Now, the kit i have costs the same as Flare-X cost back then.

B-Die is much better performing memory.

Even on Intel boards, the Hynix AFR has issues with high speed.

[Princess Luna]

3 minutes ago, dave_k said:

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Then again Intel memory controllers will make good use of even shitty Hynix modules, I always like saying if you're not savvy enough to research the best but still wants the best performance just go Intel.

 

AMD Ryzen to work at its peak requires too much details to be filled in that if you're not willing to pay attention to those just go Intel or at least be aware your Ryzen might not work at its full potential.

[just_dave]

3 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Then again Intel memory controllers will make good use of even shitty Hynix modules, I always like saying if you're not savvy enough to research the best but still wants the best performance just go Intel.

 

AMD Ryzen to work at its peak requires too much details to be filled in that if you're not willing to pay attention to those just go Intel or at least be aware your Ryzen might not work at its full potential.

Intel bias over 9000 right there

[Princess Luna]

20 minutes ago, dave_k said:

Intel bias over 9000 right there

...? I thought you knew me better than that, what is it with you lately being so rough at me? gosh sorry I'll not quote/tag you again.

[just_dave]

6 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

...? I thought you knew me better than that, what is it with you lately being so rough at me? gosh sorry I'll not quote/tag you again.

Hynix AFR is sluggish on Intel too, the border is higher than on Ryzen (Ryzen - AFR like 2933, B-Die like 3200 Intel - AFR 3466, B-Die 4000, you get the idea), but it still lacks behind.

Saying that Intel IMC will make a good use of crappy memory is not really precise.

Look at Skylake-X, you need to mess with crap like Mesh frequency., so the easy performance isnt always true, with Ryzen/THRP you just OC your CPU and memory and are good to go.

[Princess Luna]

9 minutes ago, dave_k said:

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Your interpretation of what I wrote was entirely shifted towards trying bash me, which made no sense all I said was that Intel's IMC is superior to Ryzen's, so far nothing but the true, maybe simplistic statement but i was never going deep in here any ways.

 

Then I said that even Hynix modules will be better used on Intel thanks to it which also is true (in no moment I ever said any thing about not needing the S.B-Die).

 

Then I finished stating that between an Intel mainstream like Kaby or Coffee Lake compared to AMD Ryzen you can get superior performance at the expense of less hassle, which is true, realistic speaking in the future you can pair the i7 8700 on a h310 with ANY 2666mhz stick of ram and it'll work as good as to superior than a Ryzen 7 with only premium parts, this is no making little deal of Ryzen and its place at all, just a simplistic fact.

 

I wrap up by mentioning it how if you're not the kind of savvy person who can't get bothered to learn the best pairings, the right motherboards the right memory and yet you want your rig working to its full potential you're better with Intel.

 

Now how the hell this line of thought makes me Intel biased? For crying out loud you know I have a Ryzen 7 1800x at home.

 

If I offended you before reason why you're locking your mind in stuff to go against me every time then I am sorry for it really am, and I said I will avoid quoting or tagging you now on as I was simply mistaken to think we were friendly contacts in here that used to help each other to state the right ways to those in need, never expected this salt from you.

 

Farewell.

[just_dave]

13 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Then I finished stating that between an Intel mainstream like Kaby or Coffee Lake compared to AMD Ryzen you can get superior performance at the expense of less hassle, which is true, realistic speaking in the future you can pair the i7 8700 on a h310 with ANY 2666mhz stick of ram and it'll work as good as to superior than a Ryzen 7 with only premium parts, this is no making little deal of Ryzen and its place at all, just a simplistic fact.

Yes, that is very true

13 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

that Intel's IMC is superior to Ryzen's, so far nothing but the true, maybe simplistic statement but i was never going deep in here any ways.

That is also pretty true

I have seen you recommending Intel quite a lot recently, even in situations where Ryzen would be better option.

I am sorry for saying that you are biased, but seriously, overclocking on Intel is as difficult as Ryzen, both platforms have different focus points, memory with Ryzen, delidding and cooling on Intel.

Edit: for the motherboard part, Coffee lake motherboard choices are even narrower than on AM4, both 8600K and 8700K are hungry bastards and require a decent board

Edited November 11, 2017 by dave_k

[Princess Luna]

1 minute ago, dave_k said:

I have seen you recommending Intel quite a lot recently, even in situations where Ryzen would be better option.

Yes I have returned to recommend Intel more again with Coffee Lake (THANKS TO AMD for finally raising up the core count to mainstrem) might have been a bit pushy though.

5 minutes ago, dave_k said:

I am sorry for saying that you are biased, but seriously, overclocking on Intel is as difficult as Ryzen, both platforms have different focus points, memory with Ryzen, delidding and cooling on Intel.

It's okay as far as it goes I'm totally "cool & forgiving" and I agree that overclocking both the CPU and RAM is not that straight forwards regardless the platform, we just had a bad communication I'd say so lets bury this here and move on as friendlies ^^

[just_dave]

6 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

I'd say so lets bury this here and move on as friendlies ^^

Yes

6 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

THANKS TO AMD for finally raising up the core count to mainstrem

In other words: screw intel for torturing poor consumers with 4 core chips for a helluva long time

honestly, i wouldnt go Intel just for the ethical reasons

Edited November 11, 2017 by dave_k

[Jon Jon]

2 hours ago, dave_k said:

Yes

In other words: screw intel for torturing poor consumers with 4 core chips for a helluva long time

honestly, i wouldnt go Intel just for the ethical reasons

One of the guys I work with is strictly AMD because he likes to feed competition.

 

That is the one thing that I feel that a lot of members on this forum do not understand, is that Coffee Lake is thanks to AMD Ryzen.

 

If anyone thinks that Intel was planning on giving an 80-90C 6C/12T trip to the mainstream platform, which I still argue cannibalizes the X299 big time, as part of their road map, they are crazy.

 

Coffee Lake is the undisputed performance desktop part right now, but it wouldn't exist in its current form if it wasn't for the new competition from AMD.

 

Unless everyone here was happy with the zero performance gains going from Sky Lake to Kaby Lake, which I think was such a BS release outside of giving 4K DRM certified iGPUs to the laptop space.

 

Now I just want Intel to start giving out more than 16 PCIE lanes to the mainstream!