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the budget is ~400 euro bucks ( location germany )

usage would be browsing / movies / "light" -retro gaming

the guy doesnt want to change his case, so i´m stuck with the internal dvd drives etc

 

edit: added a pic of the old build ... after dusting :D

DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo E8300

4GB DDR2 887

ASRock 4Core1333-GLAN

ATI Radeon HD 3870

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existing parts for the new build

OS WinX Pro 64bit

SSD 850 evo 250GB

3 Sata HDD 500GB + 1,5TB + 1TB ( from old build )

Displays 19" & 22" dvi / hdmi connection

10year old case :D

2x 5 1/4" dvd sata drives 

PSU ( need to get additional info about wattage etc )

 

 

 

 

Peripherals ( mouse / keyboard / printer )

 

needed parts:

ryzen 3 or going for intel i3 gen 8

mobo           with wifi or without + a good wifi card

edit: ( needs minimum 5 Sata connectors )

8GB Ram

maybe psu

 

what would you suggest?

 

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Do you use the PC for more than gaming? If so you can get a Ryzen 1600 "pack" (cpu, mobo, ram) for 390. I'm not familiar with wifi cards so someone else would have to help with that. Generally a PCIe wifi adapter isn't bundled with the motherboard btw, you have to buy them seperate.

 

Also just assumed the country with it being euro's, prices may vary depending where you're from.

PCPartPicker part list: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/RFyHKZ
Price breakdown by merchant: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/RFyHKZ/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (€194.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€79.11 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (€116.33 @ Mindfactory) 
Total: €390.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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If you only game, the i3 would be a better choice.. but the motherboard will be expensive as only Z370 boards are available for the moment, i'd suggest waiting until cheaper H370 or H310?(Not sure how they'll name the next chipsets) boards are available.

PC - CPU Ryzen 5 1600 - GPU Power Color Radeon 5700XT- Motherboard Gigabyte GA-AB350 Gaming - RAM 16GB Corsair Vengeance RGB - Storage 525GB Crucial MX300 SSD + 120GB Kingston SSD   PSU Corsair CX750M - Cooling Stock - Case White NZXT S340

 

Peripherals - Mouse Logitech G502 Wireless - Keyboard Logitech G915 TKL -  Headset Razer Kraken Pro V2's - Displays 2x Acer 24" GF246(1080p, 75hz, Freesync) Steering Wheel & Pedals Logitech G29 & Shifter

 

         

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Intel Build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i3-8100 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€117.90 @ Caseking) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370M-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€146.84 @ Mindfactory) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (€152.74 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €417.48
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Ryzen Build:

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CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€159.16 @ Mindfactory) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard  (€117.44 @ Mindfactory) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€152.56 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €429.16
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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9 minutes ago, Lurick said:


Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard  (€117.44 @ Mindfactory) 
 

Does that Ryzen board have built in wifi?

 

If it does, spend the extra 30 euro's for that setup OP, the 16gb ram will be more useful than 6c/12t of the 1600 i suggested, as that 1400 is still 4c/8t so plenty enough for editing/streaming or whatever you plan to do with the build really.

PC - CPU Ryzen 5 1600 - GPU Power Color Radeon 5700XT- Motherboard Gigabyte GA-AB350 Gaming - RAM 16GB Corsair Vengeance RGB - Storage 525GB Crucial MX300 SSD + 120GB Kingston SSD   PSU Corsair CX750M - Cooling Stock - Case White NZXT S340

 

Peripherals - Mouse Logitech G502 Wireless - Keyboard Logitech G915 TKL -  Headset Razer Kraken Pro V2's - Displays 2x Acer 24" GF246(1080p, 75hz, Freesync) Steering Wheel & Pedals Logitech G29 & Shifter

 

         

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Just now, RKRiley said:

Does that Ryzen board have built in wifi?

 

If it does, spend the extra 30 euro's for that setup OP, the 16gb ram will help more than 6c/12t, as that 1400 is 4c/8t so still enough for editing/streaming or whatever you plan to do with the build really.

Yah, was one of the cheaper, boards with wifi for Ryzen. I think there was one a few bucks cheaper but it didn't look as solid.

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great @Lurick @RKRiley

added a picture and some more info

 

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1 hour ago, Bl00dgod said:

 

Probably try for AM4 for the long run.

It's too bad Desktop Ryzen APUs aren't out, that'd probably be pretty decent for you.

I guess hold onto that GPU for as long as possible? Slap in a cheap 1030 or 550 hopefully if it's even cheaper when it dies, Ignore the GPU price for now

Or upgrade to an 4c/8t Ryzen APU in the future

also threw in a possible new PSU, but as far as I can tell your PSU selection is super limited
 

PCPartPicker part list: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/TbM9bj
Price breakdown by merchant: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/TbM9bj/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€110.09 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€79.11 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: ADATA - 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€85.83 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GT 1030 2GB Low Profile Video Card  (€71.90 @ Caseking)
Case: Cooler Master - K350 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€29.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - ECO 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€50.41 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte - GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  (€29.90 @ Caseking)
Total: €457.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

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What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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I definitely wouldn't want to use that PSU. Looks ancient, and (trying to read from the picture) looks like it has 16 and 14 amps on the 12V rails. 

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1 hour ago, Bl00dgod said:

 

Also what is that graphics card?

As you could potentially go for the A8 9600 if you don't want to get used parts, and want to get on AM4 for the upgrade path.

As the iGPU in the APU will be stronger than the i3's, but the i3's CPU is obviously on part with Ryzen 3 for performance
 

PCPartPicker part list: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/X9M9bj
Price breakdown by merchant: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/X9M9bj/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - A8-9600 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€61.90 @ Caseking)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€79.11 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: ADATA - 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€85.83 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Cooler Master - K350 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€29.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - ECO 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€50.41 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte - GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  (€29.90 @ Caseking)
Total: €337.14
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-08 20:55 CET+0100

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

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I opted for the Ryzen 1600 over the Intel 7600K because I do more than just game and the additional cores are perfect for my workflow. If you're on a budget, though, the AMD option may seem like a good idea but you need to really consider what you'll be doing with your system. 

 

For starters, overclocking requires an aftermarket cooler. A lot of people say they've managed reasonable overclocks with the stock coolers, but personally I wouldn't feel happy with them. There are plenty of options out there at various price points, but once you've factored in that cost the price gap starts to become smaller. To squeeze absolutely every bit of performance out of Ryzen, you'll also need super fast RAM which again, isn't cheap. 

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Case: NZXT S340 Elite // Cooler: NZXT Kraken X62 // RAM: Corsair Vengeance RGB 16GB 3066MHz // Misc: NZXT Hue+

Storage: WD Green 120GB M.2, SK HyniX 250GB SSD, Samsung Evo 250GB SSD, Seagate 3TB 7200RPM // PSU: Corsair RM750X

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10 hours ago, Streetguru said:

Also what is that graphics card?

ATI Radeon HD 3870,

so if i go for the ryzen i´ ll need a additional low budget / used gpu

 

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