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So I've been looking into getting a Thinkpad via the student program and my price range would be no more than 750. Preferably less. And 13,3/14 inch with FullHD, that's a must. 

I type a lot and have tried several keyboards from different manufacturers on a event recently, I decided to get a Thinkpad. I tried Asus Zenbooks, Acer Swift thingies and MS Surface (close second actually) and none came close for me.

 

Germany market.

 

In my pricerange, theres only a few models available,

E470 with i3-7100U, 8Gb RAM for 550€

E470 with i5-7200U, 8Gb RAM + 940MX for 700€

L470 with i5-7200U, 8Gb RAM for 700€

 

Now, I don't know the difference between the E and L series. Google implies that the L-Series is more business oriented and the I/O and USB stuff is in another place.

From my gut I'd say the 700€ E470 with 940MX for mild gaming but I ahve no idea how much this affects battery life when working (ie not gaming), in which case the 550€ version would maybe be superior (I don't think the difference between i3 and i5 is too big?).

Gaming is only secondary, so longer battery life would be appreciated. 

 

I know and would love to get a more expensive model, especially either the 13 or the T-series but they are too expensive. *cries in poor college student*

How does everyone afford a Macbook... ^^

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have you thought of used thinkpads? I got a T520 with a i7 2720qm and 8 gigs of ram and it is snappy (450 in cinebench).

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2 minutes ago, Sleeper PC 2016 said:

have you thought of used thinkpads? I got a T520 with a i7 2720qm and 8 gigs of ram and it is snappy (450 in cinebench).

I did (also I could get an i5- T430 from work, but that is not FullHD) but I am really unsure about the battery life. Also they are hard to find with full hd :)

And those I looked at were only mildly cheaper so I'd rather spend the money for new.

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Just now, staubgame said:

I did (also I could get an i5- T430 from work, but that is not FullHD) but I am really unsure about the battery life. Also they are hard to find with full hd :)

my thinkpad is full hd too. For battery life, the 9 cell battery that sticks out (makes a great way to keep the laptop sturdy with only one hand) lasts up to 3.75 hours according to lenovo

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3 minutes ago, staubgame said:

I did (also I could get an i5- T430 from work, but that is not FullHD) but I am really unsure about the battery life. Also they are hard to find with full hd :)

And those I looked at were only mildly cheaper so I'd rather spend the money for new.

I recently bought a used T430 with the upgraded 9 Cell battery and mine lasts me around 8-9 hours of light-mid range usage

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Just now, Sleeper PC 2016 said:

my thinkpad is full hd too. For battery life, the 9 cell battery that sticks out (makes a great way to keep the laptop sturdy with only one hand) lasts up to 3.75 hours according to lenovo

The E470 is rated with 8 hours, the T450 goes almost 15+ hours (know that from work) with this big battery :o

That's a huge difference.

 

Also just checked abey, there's barely any full hd models. :(

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3 minutes ago, TheUnderratedGamer said:

I recently bought a used T430 with the upgraded 9 Cell battery and mine lasts me around 8-9 hours of light-mid range usage

That would be quite enough then ^^

So just to find one. All models on ebay are 1600x900 

 

Edit: From what I found, there are no T430 with Full HD. There's a replacement kit though or something, or you can isntall a FHD screen...

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2 minutes ago, Sleeper PC 2016 said:

Ahh that's a 15.6 inch model. I want 14 inch :D

That is the main problem with the used search. Only T4xx models. ;) 

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9 minutes ago, Sleeper PC 2016 said:

Yes but that's not available bellow 1000€ :(

To reitterade, I'm fine with paying the prices for the new, but I don't know the difference between the E and L series as both cost the same but the E has a GPU on top.

Or even if the CPU difference is laughable and the E470 i3 is the way to go for 550 ^^

 

Also I just checked amazon, their used offers for last gen modells are more expensive then these student offers  I listed ^^.

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1 minute ago, Sleeper PC 2016 said:

that just plain sucks. i guess im out of luck since im from across the pond

Yeah I know, thanks a lot for trying anyway. Appreciate it. :)

The kicker is, the prices I listed are heavily reduced already due to the student probgram by lenovo.

 

Any input on the listed deviced maybe? 

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5 minutes ago, staubgame said:

Yeah I know, thanks a lot for trying anyway. Appreciate it. :)

The kicker is, the prices I listed are heavily reduced already due to the student probgram by lenovo.

 

Any input on the listed deviced maybe? 

they all are great laptops. Whats the reason for a 1080p screen?

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2 minutes ago, Sleeper PC 2016 said:

they all are great laptops. Whats the reason for a 1080p screen?

I do a lot of webdesign and found it to be a chore if not on 1080p ^^

Oh I also just answered you in another thread :D 

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2 minutes ago, staubgame said:

I do a lot of webdesign and found it to be a chore if not on 1080p ^^

Oh I also just answered you in another thread :D 

i saw. Web design really benefits from higher res. screens. You mentioned you tested other laptops before. Its hard to find FHD laptops that don't cost a fortune. Would you try Dell laptops like this: https://www.dealnews.com/Dell-Kaby-Lake-i5-Dual-14-Laptop-w-2-GB-GPU-for-600-free-shipping/2113459.html
 

and 600 dollars probably means 1000 euros based on the previous link (Why is it bold LOL)

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1 hour ago, staubgame said:

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Last gen ULV CPUs offer weak performance. Get a used T series Thinkpad with QM CPU, E series is just consumer rebranded model

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1 minute ago, Sleeper PC 2016 said:

i saw. Web design really benefits from higher res. screens. You mentioned you tested other laptops before. Its hard to find FHD laptops that don't cost a fortune. Would you try Dell laptops like this: https://www.dealnews.com/Dell-Kaby-Lake-i5-Dual-14-Laptop-w-2-GB-GPU-for-600-free-shipping/2113459.html
 

and 600 dollars probably means 1000 euros based on the previous link (Why is it bold LOL)

Yeah, cheapest Full HD Laptops start at 500€ roughly, with an i3-5005U and 128Gb SSD.

But I think one reason is, our prices include tax, while US prices are usually without, or am i wrong?

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9 minutes ago, ZM Fong said:

Last gen ULV CPUs offer weak performance. Get a used T series Thinkpad with QM CPU, E series is just consumer rebranded model

been looking into the difference between E and L series. I'd think from what I gathered I'd go with L anyway as that is higher quality at affordable levels.

 

Used T models like the T450 with FullHD are sold around 700 on ebay. Same as the L series new with full warranty. :/

And for QM, there's offers like that:

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-W520-15-Quad-Core-i7-2760QM-2-4GHz-16GB-RAM-128GB-SSD-1920x1080/172955941889?hash=item2844fa3c01:g:8OkAAOSwbw1Z91DV

which seems too expensive...

The compute power is nice, though. But that comes at the cost of battery life, I assume?

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5 minutes ago, staubgame said:

been looking into the difference between E and L series. I'd think from what I gathered I'd go with L anyway as that is higher quality at affordable levels.

 

Used T models like the T450 with FullHD are sold around 700 on ebay. Same as the L series new with full warranty. :/

And for QM, there's offers like that:

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-W520-15-Quad-Core-i7-2760QM-2-4GHz-16GB-RAM-128GB-SSD-1920x1080/172955941889?hash=item2844fa3c01:g:8OkAAOSwbw1Z91DV

which seems too expensive...

The compute power is nice, though. But that comes at the cost of battery life, I assume?

You'll get long battery life too with a new large battery
Agree that L series is higher quality than E series
The used T450 seems too expensive, try finding older models?

My Desktop specs:

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AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Nvidia RTX3060Ti 8GB PNY XLR8 Gaming Epic-X RGB 16GB (8X2) 3200MHz CL16 Team Group MP33 Pro 1TB
ID-Cooling SE-224-XT White Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX Tecware Forge M2 mATX White Case Montech Century 650W Gold

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1 minute ago, ZM Fong said:

You'll get long battery life too with a new large battery
Agree that L series is higher quality than E series
The used T450 seems too expensive, try finding older models?

Older models is rare with Full HD in 14 inch devices. :(

 the t440 with fullhd is around 500+ as well :(

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T440s-i7-4600U-8GB-180GB-SSD-Ultrabook-2-Akku-Laptop-Full-HD/182839843123?hash=item2a921a9933:g:iFAAAOSwezVWulvB

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33 minutes ago, staubgame said:

Yeah, cheapest Full HD Laptops start at 500€ roughly, with an i3-5005U and 128Gb SSD.

But I think one reason is, our prices include tax, while US prices are usually without, or am i wrong?

Online purchases you only pay for the item and shipping and usually no tax on top of it (some items like steam games have a small 30 cent tax)

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1 hour ago, Sleeper PC 2016 said:

Online purchases you only pay for the item and shipping and usually no tax on top of it (some items like steam games have a small 30 cent tax)

Wow, that explains a lot of why there is such a price difference ^^

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