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For a first time builder, i7 7700k or 8700k?

I'm planning to build a PC in 2018, and these two are currently the ones I'm looking at. People say that the 8th gen CPUs had one of the biggest leaps in performance from the 7th gens.

For the past 4/5 years, I've been using a quite powerful laptop with an i7 3610QM (just to let you guys know). I also plan on using my upcoming build primarily for gaming, and secondarily for video editing.

The GPU I plan on using (specifically) is the MSI GTX 1060 6gb Gaming X

Currently these are my concerns/questions:

  • Would spending a couple dozen more $$$ for i7 8700k be worth it? Or going with the i7 7700k still suffice?
  • Will there be significant leaps in FPS or productivity speeds (I think it will have a noticeable difference due to the core and thread counts)
  • In terms of future proofing, would the 8th gen cpu and z370 boards be backwards compatible with the 9th gen line ups? (I think it would depend on intel)
  • Should I prioritize future proofing?
  • would an i7 8700k be an overkill for the 1060?
  • If you guys would recommend a Ryzen cpu (and motherboard), which would it be and why?

Thanks in advance!

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1 minute ago, Renegrade said:

I'm planning to build a PC in 2018, and these two are currently the ones I'm looking at. People say that the 8th gen CPUs had one of the biggest leaps in performance from the 7th gens.

For the past 4/5 years, I've been using a quite powerful laptop with an i7 3610QM (just to let you guys know). I also plan on using my upcoming build primarily for gaming, and secondarily for video editing.

The GPU I plan on using (specifically) is the MSI GTX 1060 6gb Gaming X

Currently these are my concerns/questions:

  • Would spending a couple dozen more $$$ for i7 8700k be worth it? Or going with the i7 7700k still suffice?
  • Will there be significant leaps in FPS or productivity speeds (I think it will have a noticeable difference due to the core and thread counts)
  • In terms of future proofing, would the 8th gen cpu and z370 boards be backwards compatible with the 9th gen line ups? (I think it would depend on intel)
  • Should I prioritize future proofing?
  • would an i7 8700k be an overkill for the 1060?
  • If you guys would recommend a Ryzen cpu (and motherboard), which would it be and why?

Thanks in advance!

No point in buying older version..

8700K it must be don't buy 7700k

Unless you want to buy now, otherwise wait for it to be available to buy and then go for it

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Just now, Renegrade said:
  • Would spending a couple dozen more $$$ for i7 8700k be worth it? Or going with the i7 7700k still suffice?
  • Will there be significant leaps in FPS or productivity speeds (I think it will have a noticeable difference due to the core and thread counts)
  • In terms of future proofing, would the 8th gen cpu and z370 boards be backwards compatible with the 9th gen line ups? (I think it would depend on intel)
  • Should I prioritize future proofing?
  • would an i7 8700k be an overkill for the 1060?
  • If you guys would recommend a Ryzen cpu (and motherboard), which would it be and why?

1. Yes. Go 8700k.

2. FPS: minor improvements Productivity: ~50% better in multithreaded applications.

3. Nope.

4. 8700k is future proof only insofar as raw performance is concerned.

5. To an extent, but It would match it fine. Buying a baller CPU to go with an okay GPU isn't so much a problem as pairing a monster GPU with your grandma's pentium.

6. If you do heavy content creation/streaming, and you would get a 1700+decent B350 Board.

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2 minutes ago, gbergeron said:

No point in buying older version..

8700K it must be don't buy 7700k

Unless you want to buy now, otherwise wait for it to be available to buy and then go for it

Just worth mentioning that if he's building in 2018, chances are 8700K stock will be better.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Renegrade said:
  • Will there be significant leaps in FPS or productivity speeds (I think it will have a noticeable difference due to the core and thread counts)
  • In terms of future proofing, would the 8th gen cpu and z370 boards be backwards compatible with the 9th gen line ups? (I think it would depend on intel)
  • would an i7 8700k be an overkill for the 1060?
  • If you guys would recommend a Ryzen cpu (and motherboard), which would it be and why?

8700k is basically a 7700k with 2 more cores (4 more threads)

rumors are that z370 will not be compatible with 9th gen cpus

if you were strictly gaming yes, but doing productivity stuff it kinda makes sense

either a 1600 and a good b350 mobo or a 1700 and a good x370 mobo, unless you start building after AMD does their ryzen refresh, then check those out because they should be a good bit better than ryzen (rumored to be coming as soon as February 2018)

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I would forget about future proofing, within a month of building a PC there will be something you want.  That or you will realize you will actually use a feature that you previously thought would be pointless.  It's just the nature of PC building.  I just built mine this year but if I had to build another one right now I'd go AMD out of pure spite for intel.  But intel does have a good product, just hate them as a company (IE removing bclk oc on non-k cpu's etc).

 

For gaming it will be a while until a 4core 4thread cpu will need anything more than those 4 threads but a day will come.  6c 12t should last a long time or with amd 8c 16t.

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