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What should i upgrade first? or should i just build a new computer?

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Hello people of the LTT community! 

I have had my pc for 2,5 years now and im wondering if i should replace the whole build, or upgrade some parts. The budget i have is approximately 1500$.

The main reason i want to build a new one for my self is so i can give the old one to my brother, who plays alot of MOBA and MMROPG games.

I usally play aaa games and a little bit of video editing.

I live in Norway so keep in mind that parts costs a little bit more here than in the US. 

I can also go a little bit over 1500$ if you guys say it would keep me satisfied for some years! 

 

The old build:

Case: NZXT H440

CPU: Intel i7-4770k

CPU cooler: Corsair H105

GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 960 4GB Gaming

Motherboard: Asus Z-87 Pro

Memory: HyperX Savage DDR3 1600MHz 8GB

PSU: Corsair 600W

A 240GB SSD and a 1TB HDD from seagate

 

Keboard, mice, headset and single 27" monitor (144hz) works wonderfull so no need for changing there. 

 

- NorthEdge

 

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PSU model? color of label?

 

I'd say up the graphics card first. GTX 1080ti doesnt sound unreasonable with this CPU, though 1080 is better value.

 

then the RAM to 16GB (maybe grab high frequency ones if you can find them, but in that case you cant use what you have)

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Put 16 or 32 Gb of ram and a 1080ti.

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Thank you guys! Then ill think i will just upgrade the ram to some newer 16/32 gb DDR4 and a new 1080 /1080ti. I think i also want to change some fans and the PSU. The PSU is a non modular 80 plus bronze, alot of cables, it looks like a mess. And some new fans, only have the stock fans atm. They are very loud at high workloads. 

 

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5 minutes ago, NorthEdge said:

upgrade the ram to some newer 16/32 gb DDR4

DDR4 is not compatible with DDR3. Mobo that uses one cannot use the other. Stick to DDR3, maybe 2133MHz or 2400MHz ones.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

DDR4 is not compatible with DDR3. Mobo that uses one cannot use the other. Stick to DDR3, maybe 2133MHz or 2400MHz ones.

I see! Thanks for the heads up! 

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10 minutes ago, NorthEdge said:

Thank you guys! Then ill think i will just upgrade the ram to some newer 16/32 gb DDR4 and a new 1080 /1080ti. I think i also want to change some fans and the PSU. The PSU is a non modular 80 plus bronze, alot of cables, it looks like a mess. And some new fans, only have the stock fans atm. They are very loud at high workloads. 

 

why would you need 32 Gigs? What are you going to do with your PC? If its just gaming or gaming for the most part 16 is more than enough, even your 8 gigs is pretty good enough. Just get a good PSU and a GPU. If you can afford and you are going to get 1440p 144Hz, get the 1080Ti, otherwise, just get the 1080 or maybe wait around for the 1070Ti, if it's as close to the 1080 as they say it would and priced cheaper, might be a better deal.

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I agree. Ram + 1080/1080ti and you are set for another 2-3 years most likely.

 

Even tho AMD is pushing the CPU market now the real gains are not exatlcy visibly (much) for normal consumers just yet.

I have a pretty similar CPU myself (i7-4790k) and have yet to run into any CPU bottleneck whatsoever. 

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35 minutes ago, NorthEdge said:

Thank you guys! Then ill think i will just upgrade the ram to some newer 16/32 gb DDR4 and a new 1080 /1080ti. I think i also want to change some fans and the PSU. The PSU is a non modular 80 plus bronze, alot of cables, it looks like a mess. And some new fans, only have the stock fans atm. They are very loud at high workloads. 

 

You can't put ddr4 in there.

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You could upgrade the PSU, it's not the best PSU out there. Then upgrade the GPU (1080TI) and RAM (16GB, OC them if you want)

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For the most part, you system is still quite powerful and capable when it comes to gaming, so, I'd recommend upgrading to a 1080 (better value for money) or 1080ti (if you have the money), then upgrade to 16GB of RAM and maybey a newer, more power effecient power supple that has enough wattage to accomodate for your system power comsumption.

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Actually if you want to get something better (CPU) i5-8400 is the crusher of older i7s but looking that you don't have an encoding based workload it is fine to leave the CPU but upgrade the RAM to much more storage and get better GPU

"Make it future proof for some years at least, don't buy "only slightly better" stuff that gets outdated 1 year, that's throwing money away" @pipoawas

 

-Frequencies DON'T represent everything and in many cases that is true (referring to Individual CPU Clocks).

 

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