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6 minutes ago, GanstaKingofSA said:

Yeah also trying not to lower my cpu''s lifespan. Any higher than 1.2V and your CPU’s life span could be decreased substantially and Any higher than 1.5V and your memory may get cooked or damaged is what I'm trying to avoid here

Well, just to clarify, CPU NB Voltage isn't directly tied to your CPU Core Voltage or your DRAM Voltage. It's safe to take your CPU NB Voltage from default to 1.2 (no higher) as that setting tends to help with memory overclocks. You are right to be concerned, I'm glad you are. But as you can see in the other posts, if someone recommends something unsafe, or even potentially unsafe, they'll be called out on it.

 

For the record, CPU NB Voltage is the same thing as SOC Voltage, which is generally safe up to 1.2v in Ryzen systems. CPU Core Voltage is recommended by AMD not to exceed 1.35v. DRAM Voltage is generally not to go much higher than 1.4v, but many say 1.45 and higher is 'okay' with adequate airflow.

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I bought ram back in July. It's Geil Evo X and I have thought my RAM speed was at 3000 MHz the whole time. I went into task manager 1 day and it was at 2133 MHz. So I tried using A XMP on my Motherboard to get it to 3000 MHz and it won't boot. Max I can get it before it won't boot is 2666 MHz. Motherboard is a MSI X370 SLI PLUS

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1 minute ago, ARikozuM said:

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Geil Evo X 16 GB 3000 MHz (2x8GB)

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4 minutes ago, GanstaKingofSA said:

AMD Ryzen 7 1700

Geil Evo X 16 GB 3000 MHz (2x8GB)

NVIDIA GTX 560 Ti

MSI X370 SLI PLUS

 

the exact ram kit?

 

i mean judging from your problem it's probably a 3000MHz CL16 kit and those just don't work at full speed 90% of the time and there's nothing you can do about it. and since this was back in july.... you can't return them to buy the right one

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1 minute ago, GanstaKingofSA said:

oh no it's Timing 15-17-17-35  i don't know what's up with these 17 sub timings. you can try setting it manually in bios to 16 or 18 and see if it boots then. try 16-18-18-36 for 3000MHz and don't forget the 1.35V

 

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1 minute ago, SquintyG33Rs said:

oh no it's Timing 15-17-17-35  i don't know what's up with these 17 sub timings. you can try setting it manually in bios to 16 or 18 and see if it boots then. try 16-18-18-36 for 3000MHz and don't forget the 1.35V

 

So I try setting those times at 2666 mhz and see if it boots then try 3000 Mhz?

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Just now, GanstaKingofSA said:

So I try setting those times at 2666 mhz and see if it boots then try 3000 Mhz?

try 3000Mhz directly

 

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Just now, SquintyG33Rs said:

try 3000Mhz directly

 

Alright set everything to those settings and the system goes into a post boot loop not booting into bios again

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Alright set everything to those settings and the system goes into a post boot loop not booting into bios again

try again with nb_V set to 1.2

 

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1 minute ago, SquintyG33Rs said:

try again with nb_V set to 1.2

 

Where can I find that? Don't see a nb_V anywhere. Also 2666 Mhz worked with those timings

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4 minutes ago, GanstaKingofSA said:

Where can I find that? Don't see a nb_V anywhere. Also 2666 Mhz worked with those timings

 

7 minutes ago, SquintyG33Rs said:

try again with nb_V set to 1.2

 

Nvm found it but still goes into a post boot loop

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5 minutes ago, GanstaKingofSA said:

 

Nvm found it but still goes into a post boot loop

1.25 then 1.275 if that still doesn't work then you might just be sol for the 3000MHz i wouldn't up the timings more because it's just going to be slower than if you kept it at 2666 then

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17 minutes ago, SquintyG33Rs said:

try again with nb_V set to 1.2

 

It may help to be more specific with that. Most Ryzen boards refer to that as SOC Voltage, MSI calls it CPU NB Voltage. And it's generally accepted that 1.2 is maximum. I'm afraid simply referring to something as 'nb_V' is a bit vague and may lead to more problems.

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It may help to be more specific with that. Most Ryzen boards refer to that as SOC Voltage, MSI calls it CPU NB Voltage. And it's generally accepted that 1.2 is maximum. I'm afraid simply referring to something as 'nb_V' is a bit vague and may lead to more problems.

i knew he had an msi board and i knew he could find it

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i knew he had an msi board and i knew he could find it

You place too much faith in people. Safer to be more accurate.

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1 minute ago, johndms said:

You place too much faith in people. Safer to be more accurate.

i think he proved that i didn't

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40 minutes ago, GanstaKingofSA said:

Hello,

 

I bought ram back in July. It's Geil Evo X and I have thought my RAM speed was at 3000 MHz the whole time. I went into task manager 1 day and it was at 2133 MHz. So I tried using A XMP on my Motherboard to get it to 3000 MHz and it won't boot. Max I can get it before it won't boot is 2666 MHz. Motherboard is a MSI X370 SLI PLUS

It's couldn't hurt to update to the most recent version of your bios, if you haven't already. They tend to improve system stability and memory compatibility. https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/X370-SLI-PLUS.html

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1 minute ago, SquintyG33Rs said:

i think he proved that i didn't

And one of these days your vagueness is going to cause a newbie to screw their board up. Most of the people who ask for help are here because they probably don't know these types of things. What may seem obvious to you, may not to someone else. Quit being a pain and just be more specific. CPU NB Voltage. It ain't that difficult to type out.

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Just now, johndms said:

It's couldn't hurt to update to the most recent version of your bios, if you haven't already. They tend to improve system stability and memory compatibility. https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/X370-SLI-PLUS.html

Yeah I have tried reading a article in MSI''s website and always update the BIOS but then the max that I can still go is 2666MHz tried using A XMP, Memory try it and manually doing it by following that article but still stuck at 2666 Mhz FeelsBadMan

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3 minutes ago, GanstaKingofSA said:

Yeah I have tried reading a article in MSI''s website and always update the BIOS but then the max that I can still go is 2666MHz tried using A XMP, Memory try it and manually doing it by following that article but still stuck at 2666 Mhz FeelsBadMan

You could try raising dram voltage a bit and SoC voltage as others have mentioned but other than that there's not much you can do :/ 

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6 minutes ago, johndms said:

And one of these days your vagueness is going to cause a newbie to screw their board up. Most of the people who ask for help are here because they probably don't know these types of things. What may seem obvious to you, may not to someone else. Quit being a pain and just be more specific. CPU NB Voltage. It ain't that difficult to type out.

you're the one being obnoxious here after he already found it. and people ask when they don't know just like he did. so calm your tits none of this will brick the board. CPU NB voltage doesn't mean anything more to him and that's not even how it's displayed in the bios. i did forget to suggest updating bios but it actually hasn't improved this type of problems on any configuration i've seen in person.

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39 minutes ago, GanstaKingofSA said:

This link shows your model number as GEX416GB3000C15ADC. While I'm not finding much on that particular model number, if I switch the frequency and cas latency to GEX416GB3200C16ADC, that 3200 kit is listed as a Single Rank Samsung B-Die kit, which would be perfect. Source

 

However, your kit could be different. It may only be capable of running at 2666. With some higher timings as mentioned above, or some increase dram voltage (1.4v), you may be able to get it to work.

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4 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

You could try raising dram voltage a bit and SoC voltage as others have mentioned but other than that there's not much you can do :/ 

Yeah also trying not to lower my cpu''s lifespan. Any higher than 1.2V and your CPU’s life span could be decreased substantially and Any higher than 1.5V and your memory may get cooked or damaged is what I'm trying to avoid here

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