i7-8700k upgrade (motherboard, ram choices, etc)

[He_162]

I'm looking for the following information:
-Which Z370 board offers the best VRM that you guys know of so far? (I know this won't matter because they are all really good)
-What ram speeds should I look for in with this processor, or does it matter much with intel vs AMD? (I have a Ryzen 5 1600 with DDR4-2666mhz ram)
-Does the i7-8700k need to be overclocked to beat the i7-7700k in games? (both at stock)
(I will be overclocking it with my Kraken x62 water cooler as the main source of cooling)

-Does anyone know if it needs to be delidded yet, or does it run cool enough as is? (Going for 5.1ghz)

I'm planning on keeping with both intel and AMD in the upcoming years, Zen 2, or Ryzen refresh should be interesting, and intel's icelake looks like a good contender for them as well.

[WebPlayz]

3 minutes ago, He_162 said:

I'm looking for the following information:
-Which Z370 board offers the best VRM that you guys know of so far? (I know this won't matter because they are all really good)
-What ram speeds should I look for in with this processor, or does it matter much with intel vs AMD? (I have a Ryzen 5 1600 with DDR4-2666mhz ram)
-Does the i7-8700k need to be overclocked to beat the i7-7700k in games? (both at stock)
(I will be overclocking it with my Kraken x62 water cooler as the main source of cooling)

-Does anyone know if it needs to be delidded yet, or does it run cool enough as is? (Going for 5.1ghz)

I'm planning on keeping with both intel and AMD in the upcoming years, Zen 2, or Ryzen refresh should be interesting, and intel's icelake looks like a good contender for them as well.

Id say for you. Delid it so you can give it artic thermal paste. And The x62 should work wonders. Set the pump at high. 

[He_162]

Just now, Killstreak said:

Id say for you. Delid it so you can give it artic thermal paste. And The x62 should work wonders. Set the pump at high. 

I run it on a custom fan and pump curve for my R5 1600 right now, doesn't get over 46C during 4 hour gameplay sessions in PUBG, or Battlefield 1. (@3.8ghz, 1.42v)

[Damascus]

You can hit 5.1ghz on the stock paste pretty easily on what seem to be a lot of chips.

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Just now, He_162 said:

I run it on a custom fan and pump curve for my R5 1600 right now, doesn't get over 46C during 4 hour gameplay sessions in PUBG, or Battlefield 1. (@3.8ghz, 1.42v)

Wait. If you have a R5 Why go with intel? 

[He_162]

Just now, Damascus said:

You can hit 5.1ghz on the stock paste pretty easily on what seem to be a lot of chips.

The same was seen on the i7-7700k, which is why I was wondering

[He_162]

Just now, Killstreak said:

Wait. If you have a R5 Why go with intel? 

I collect PC's, here is my current inventory (just in my room)
-AMD k6-2
-Pentium 2 (1998)
-i7-970 (six core i7!)
-Athlon 62 x2
-i5-4590
-i7-4790k
-i3-6100
-R5 1600 (2x) (one capable of 3.9ghz, the other of 3.8)
-R7 1700
-i7-7700k shipping

Just looking at starting up a PC repair / selling business, just a side thing while I get through highschool.

[Damascus]

5 minutes ago, He_162 said:

The same was seen on the i7-7700k, which is why I was wondering

No no no no, a 7700k 5ghz with stock TIM would be at 95c or more, this is 5ghz 80c on the 8700k

[He_162]

Just now, Damascus said:

No no no no, a 770 5ghz with stock TIM would be at 95c or more, this is 5ghz 80c on the 8700k

Oh ok, good to know they got the temps down even with more cores. That answers one of my questions, do you think the 8700k will cost less than 350$ at any point? I might snatch up more than one.

[Damascus]

Just now, He_162 said:

Oh ok, good to know they got the temps down even with more cores. That answers one of my questions, do you think the 8700k will cost less than 350$ at any point? I might snatch up more than one.

Try black friday, decent chance it'll go that cheap.